Windows 8.1

**Dexter** · 10-19-2013, 03:07 AM

Let this be a warning to any gamers considering upgrading, I had these problems:

1) Mouse polling rate is capped at 200Hz (everything I tried did not fix), might not be new to 8.1 but I haven't ran 8 in a while
2) MarkC mouse accel fix no longer worked

these combined made mouse input total poo poo. not to mention it is still windows 8

NeonLight · 10-19-2013, 03:18 AM

Is the MarkC fix not working in game or out of game? I know for example CS:GO you have to turn rawinput off for the fix to completely work

**Dexter** · 10-19-2013, 03:27 AM

both- I skipped games that support raw input, I only considered in games that implicitly turn enhance pointer precision on, but mouse movement recorder was showing crazy mismatches I never got on 7 both on the desktop and in older games, and it was a realllllly noticeable difference. maybe exaggerated by the lower polling rate. I didn't know that about csgo! I use really really low sens in that game so I have just been totally oblivious (also never play it RIP)

NeonLight · 10-19-2013, 03:33 AM

(you should play it it's really really good (even though it has drops + crates))

**Dexter** · 10-19-2013, 03:35 AM

cant tell if serious? I got into the crates a bit, trading a lot till I got an awp boom and sold it for $10 :/

**Dexter** · 10-19-2013, 03:38 AM

at any rate, I just reinstalled windows 7 on a SSD, time 2 own

NeonLight · 10-19-2013, 03:44 AM

I know cake just upgraded to 8.1, maybe he can shed some light

**Dexter** · 10-19-2013, 04:06 AM

TOO LATE NOW FUCK DAT

the_cake · 10-19-2013, 04:01 PM

I haven't upgraded lol. I stuck with 8 after reading the list of things 8.1 breaks atm. When (if) they iron those out I'll give it a shot. BTW the "Start Menu is back" thing is a troll attempt. It's like "click here to begin.." "JK NOW YOU'RE BACK IN METRO LOLZ RAGE SUCCESSFUL." I just use start8. It's 5 bucks and unbreaks about 80% of win8. The other 20% you can hack pretty easily with some googling.

Paft · 10-19-2013, 06:02 PM

StartIsBack is better. Start8 doesn't support custom themes last time I checked.

FDA_Approved · 10-19-2013, 06:23 PM

Custom themes, cuz I bought a barby doll instead of a computer.

the_cake · 10-20-2013, 12:49 AM

Yea there are a lot of start/shell replacements. There's even Classic Shell which is FOSS and allows you to skin the entire shell. I really just wanted something that brought functionality back, didn't feel buggy, and without tons of features I don't care about that could break something down the line.

**Dexter** · 10-20-2013, 05:11 AM

linux is the future

*spends two hours fixing flash after an update*

Paft · 10-20-2013, 12:14 PM

StartIsBack isn't buggy and feels fine. The version for 8 was code straight from 7 and didn't take up any resources. Dunno about the "+" version for 8.1.

Just an FYI.

the_cake · 10-20-2013, 03:08 PM

God I wish. When I think Linux desktop I think something fairly polished and obviously worked on for years. Then I look the other way and see every 3rd party programmer and manufacturer of commodity hardware/software holding their middle finger up. Sad really.

Paft · 10-20-2013, 06:20 PM

Maybe we'll all be on the Steam OS in the future.

ddm999 · 10-20-2013, 06:22 PM

SteamOS. ITS THE FUTUREEEEEEEEEEEE

Paft · 10-20-2013, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FDA_Approved

Custom themes, cuz I bought a barby doll instead of a computer.

How can you stand default Windows themes? Every single visual style MS has produced asides from Classic has been god damn ugly.

**Dexter** · 10-20-2013, 09:28 PM

who cares!

FDA_Approved · 10-20-2013, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paft

How can you stand default Windows themes? Every single visual style MS has produced asides from Classic has been god damn ugly.

Idk, I just don't pay it any attention.

10-19-2013, 03:07 AM	#1
Dexter internet user Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 42 Times	Windows 8.1 Let this be a warning to any gamers considering upgrading, I had these problems: 1) Mouse polling rate is capped at 200Hz (everything I tried did not fix), might not be new to 8.1 but I haven't ran 8 in a while 2) MarkC mouse accel fix no longer worked these combined made mouse input total poo poo. not to mention it is still windows 8 __________________ 9:17 PM - DEXTER: can you teach me how to play o 9:17 PM - squeek.: you jump a lot 9:18 PM - squeek.: and do sweet moves 8:55 PM - FDA: fart in you fridge and blame it on wild animals

10-19-2013, 03:18 AM	#2
NeonLight NeoNL Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, Mass Class/Position: Soldier, Medic Gametype: AvD Affiliations: +M\|M+ -RS Posts Rated Helpful 170 Times	Is the MarkC fix not working in game or out of game? I know for example CS:GO you have to turn rawinput off for the fix to completely work __________________ Stream(720p 60FPS) Recover Montage Fidd_l SpiderX Zutalors_B2 Quark_Classic DM2_MGE NeoN's Config Emporium

10-19-2013, 03:27 AM	#3
Dexter internet user Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 42 Times	both- I skipped games that support raw input, I only considered in games that implicitly turn enhance pointer precision on, but mouse movement recorder was showing crazy mismatches I never got on 7 both on the desktop and in older games, and it was a realllllly noticeable difference. maybe exaggerated by the lower polling rate. I didn't know that about csgo! I use really really low sens in that game so I have just been totally oblivious (also never play it RIP) __________________ 9:17 PM - DEXTER: can you teach me how to play o 9:17 PM - squeek.: you jump a lot 9:18 PM - squeek.: and do sweet moves 8:55 PM - FDA: fart in you fridge and blame it on wild animals

10-19-2013, 03:33 AM	#4
NeonLight NeoNL Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, Mass Class/Position: Soldier, Medic Gametype: AvD Affiliations: +M\|M+ -RS Posts Rated Helpful 170 Times	(you should play it it's really really good (even though it has drops + crates)) __________________ Stream(720p 60FPS) Recover Montage Fidd_l SpiderX Zutalors_B2 Quark_Classic DM2_MGE NeoN's Config Emporium

10-19-2013, 03:35 AM	#5
Dexter internet user Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 42 Times	cant tell if serious? I got into the crates a bit, trading a lot till I got an awp boom and sold it for $10 :/ __________________ 9:17 PM - DEXTER: can you teach me how to play o 9:17 PM - squeek.: you jump a lot 9:18 PM - squeek.: and do sweet moves 8:55 PM - FDA: fart in you fridge and blame it on wild animals

10-19-2013, 03:38 AM	#6
Dexter internet user Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 42 Times	at any rate, I just reinstalled windows 7 on a SSD, time 2 own __________________ 9:17 PM - DEXTER: can you teach me how to play o 9:17 PM - squeek.: you jump a lot 9:18 PM - squeek.: and do sweet moves 8:55 PM - FDA: fart in you fridge and blame it on wild animals

10-19-2013, 03:44 AM	#7
NeonLight NeoNL Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, Mass Class/Position: Soldier, Medic Gametype: AvD Affiliations: +M\|M+ -RS Posts Rated Helpful 170 Times	I know cake just upgraded to 8.1, maybe he can shed some light __________________ Stream(720p 60FPS) Recover Montage Fidd_l SpiderX Zutalors_B2 Quark_Classic DM2_MGE NeoN's Config Emporium

10-19-2013, 04:06 AM	#8
Dexter internet user Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 42 Times	TOO LATE NOW FUCK DAT __________________ 9:17 PM - DEXTER: can you teach me how to play o 9:17 PM - squeek.: you jump a lot 9:18 PM - squeek.: and do sweet moves 8:55 PM - FDA: fart in you fridge and blame it on wild animals

10-19-2013, 04:01 PM	#9
the_cake Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 144 Times	I haven't upgraded lol. I stuck with 8 after reading the list of things 8.1 breaks atm. When (if) they iron those out I'll give it a shot. BTW the "Start Menu is back" thing is a troll attempt. It's like "click here to begin.." "JK NOW YOU'RE BACK IN METRO LOLZ RAGE SUCCESSFUL." I just use start8. It's 5 bucks and unbreaks about 80% of win8. The other 20% you can hack pretty easily with some googling. Last edited by the_cake; 10-19-2013 at 04:01 PM.

10-19-2013, 06:02 PM	#10
Paft Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK - http://forums.fortress-forever.com Class/Position: [O] Med Gametype: CTF/Skills Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	StartIsBack is better. Start8 doesn't support custom themes last time I checked. __________________ TFC Resource TFC/FF/TF2 customs at: ZZUBYTTIHS - www.tfcgaschamber.com - www.ozfortress.com - www.fpsbanana.com - mrclan.com - TFC Essentials Jan 2012

10-19-2013, 06:23 PM	#11
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	Custom themes, cuz I bought a barby doll instead of a computer. __________________ Currently equipped: Rad Scarf of liberating happiness.

10-20-2013, 12:49 AM	#12
the_cake Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 144 Times	Yea there are a lot of start/shell replacements. There's even Classic Shell which is FOSS and allows you to skin the entire shell. I really just wanted something that brought functionality back, didn't feel buggy, and without tons of features I don't care about that could break something down the line. Last edited by the_cake; 10-20-2013 at 01:03 AM.

10-20-2013, 05:11 AM	#13
Dexter internet user Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 42 Times	linux is the future spends two hours fixing flash after an update __________________ 9:17 PM - DEXTER: can you teach me how to play o 9:17 PM - squeek.: you jump a lot 9:18 PM - squeek.: and do sweet moves 8:55 PM - FDA: fart in you fridge and blame it on wild animals

10-20-2013, 12:14 PM	#14
Paft Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK - http://forums.fortress-forever.com Class/Position: [O] Med Gametype: CTF/Skills Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	StartIsBack isn't buggy and feels fine. The version for 8 was code straight from 7 and didn't take up any resources. Dunno about the "+" version for 8.1. Just an FYI. __________________ TFC Resource TFC/FF/TF2 customs at: ZZUBYTTIHS - www.tfcgaschamber.com - www.ozfortress.com - www.fpsbanana.com - mrclan.com - TFC Essentials Jan 2012

10-20-2013, 03:08 PM	#15
the_cake Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 144 Times	God I wish. When I think Linux desktop I think something fairly polished and obviously worked on for years. Then I look the other way and see every 3rd party programmer and manufacturer of commodity hardware/software holding their middle finger up. Sad really.

10-20-2013, 06:22 PM	#17
ddm999 worst ff player eu Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: South Yorks., England Class/Position: o - no, d - scout Gametype: IvDZ Posts Rated Helpful 18 Times	SteamOS. ITS THE FUTUREEEEEEEEEEEE __________________ gg ff not ded ff very much alive
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10-20-2013, 06:20 PM	#16
Paft Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK - http://forums.fortress-forever.com Class/Position: [O] Med Gametype: CTF/Skills Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	Maybe we'll all be on the Steam OS in the future. __________________ TFC Resource TFC/FF/TF2 customs at: ZZUBYTTIHS - www.tfcgaschamber.com - www.ozfortress.com - www.fpsbanana.com - mrclan.com - TFC Essentials Jan 2012

10-20-2013, 09:28 PM	#19
Dexter internet user Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 42 Times	who cares! __________________ 9:17 PM - DEXTER: can you teach me how to play o 9:17 PM - squeek.: you jump a lot 9:18 PM - squeek.: and do sweet moves 8:55 PM - FDA: fart in you fridge and blame it on wild animals

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