Do we need overpressure?

XPelargos · 07-22-2016, 03:37 PM

I liked HW's slow grenade as a concept because it doesn't interrupt your trajectory, just imposes a speed limit on the scout/medic car.

Whereas the overpressure causes a 3-car pileup on the 405 type deal.

Yet with only 1 slow nade and it lasting 5 seconds it never felt like I could be a traffic cop long enough.

What about removing overpressure and moving the slow nade effect to right click? i.e. every 20 seconds HW can right click and causes people in a small radius around him to slow down for 1/2 seconds? (Particle effects would have to accompany to show that it's active.)

This would still require him to maneuver to where the scouts are coming (my skill cap!) but not be so annoying with the farting and trajectory interruption stuff.

**squeek.** · 07-22-2016, 08:56 PM

I wonder if replacing overpressure with a straightforward damage dealer (+attack2 deals damage in a radius around you) would make it less frustrating to play against while still keeping some of the usefulness of overpressure.

(keep in mind that all damage slows people down)

Fat-Suzy · 07-22-2016, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by squeek.

I wonder if replacing overpressure with a straightforward damage dealer (+attack2 deals damage in a radius around you) would make it less frustrating to play against while still keeping some of the usefulness of overpressure.

(keep in mind that all damage slows people down)

Like some kind of poisonous fart? You'd better make the particle effect a green/brown hue..

Fruitcake · 07-23-2016, 12:25 AM

The last thing HWG needs is more damage heh

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As for making overpressure great again (c wat i did there?), could you change it to be more like a mini concussion grenade centered on HWG (and not affecting him). Lower the radius and the push back maybe. Also concussion grenades push you harder if you're on the edge so maybe invert it so overpressure pushes hardest closer to the center. Just some thoughts.

**squeek.** · 07-23-2016, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fruitcake

The last thing HWG needs is more damage heh

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Overpressure is used to stop people so you can do damage to them, though, right? Damage that would otherwise not be dealt (or at least not as much)?

In theory, it could balance out overall while be less frustrating (assuming it's the being stopped that is frustrating).

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As for making overpressure great again (c wat i did there?), could you change it to be more like a mini concussion grenade centered on HWG (and not affecting him). Lower the radius and the push back maybe. Also concussion grenades push you harder if you're on the edge so maybe invert it so overpressure pushes hardest closer to the center. Just some thoughts.

Not sure how that's different than what exists now.

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07-22-2016, 03:37 PM	#1
XPelargos I like to spam binds Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Class/Position: Scoooooot Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 73 Times	I liked HW's slow grenade as a concept because it doesn't interrupt your trajectory, just imposes a speed limit on the scout/medic car. Whereas the overpressure causes a 3-car pileup on the 405 type deal. Yet with only 1 slow nade and it lasting 5 seconds it never felt like I could be a traffic cop long enough. What about removing overpressure and moving the slow nade effect to right click? i.e. every 20 seconds HW can right click and causes people in a small radius around him to slow down for 1/2 seconds? (Particle effects would have to accompany to show that it's active.) This would still require him to maneuver to where the scouts are coming (my skill cap!) but not be so annoying with the farting and trajectory interruption stuff.

07-23-2016, 12:25 AM	#4
Fruitcake Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: In a gofer hole Gametype: AvD/IvD Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	The last thing HWG needs is more damage heh . As for making overpressure great again (c wat i did there?), could you change it to be more like a mini concussion grenade centered on HWG (and not affecting him). Lower the radius and the push back maybe. Also concussion grenades push you harder if you're on the edge so maybe invert it so overpressure pushes hardest closer to the center. Just some thoughts.

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