Getting Around Comcast's Bittorrent Throttle

Mooga · 08-26-2007, 02:09 AM

THIS IS NOT A "warez" TOPIC.

As many of you may know, Comcast has started to throttle seeding torrents. When it sees a user uploading via bittorrent it sends the user a reset command.

Normally you want to forward your torrent port from your router to your local computer for faster speeds. However, it seems that the reset command is sent VIA that port! So by turning off port forwarding, you are able to seed (I was able to for a little bit) because the reset command is never received.

skuLL · 08-26-2007, 04:05 AM

rofl
That's why I love my country.
People don't even care about bittorrenting here in Brazil. You can download and upload anything, I mean, anything you want.

SizeableSSonic · 08-26-2007, 04:12 AM

Shit, no wonder my torrents have been downloading so slow...

zSilver_Fox · 08-26-2007, 04:34 AM

DSL ftw.

Ihmhi · 08-26-2007, 06:10 AM

DSL has the speed that cable gets throttled down to.

Marshmallow Noob · 08-26-2007, 11:52 AM

haha owned

go green!

Coronius · 08-26-2007, 05:44 PM

If my ISP would do that to me i'd fucking ditch them.

mistermojo · 08-26-2007, 05:49 PM

damn i was wondering why it was happening

i have usenet though so no big deal :>

Scuzzy · 08-26-2007, 05:56 PM

Flood them with support calls every time it happens. Couple hundred people do that and jam up their support lines they'd re-think the policy.

punkrockrocks · 08-26-2007, 06:25 PM

This reminds me...
One time I got a cease and desist letter telling me to delete my Pokemon Diamond and Pearl ROMs that I downloaded thru bittorrent from my ISP. But my little brother already had the actual games on his DS, so it was perfectly legal to have them... anyway, point of my story...
ISP's hate torrents?
I wonder if I still have the letter. I might scan it and upload it for epic lulz.

Coronius · 08-26-2007, 06:39 PM

Never had any trouble from my isp, cept for like once in a month 1 hour downtime.

paranoidkirb · 08-26-2007, 06:51 PM

Fios FTW.

Coronius · 08-26-2007, 07:05 PM

Also doing shit that will only upset your customers even if they are cheating with something that doesnt really concern you or will affect your its pretty fucked up and stupid.

Circuitous · 08-26-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooga

THIS IS NOT A "warez" TOPIC.

As many of you may know, Comcast has started to throttle seeding torrents. When it sees a user uploading via bittorrent it sends the user a reset command.

Normally you want to forward your torrent port from your router to your local computer for faster speeds. However, it seems that the reset command is sent VIA that port! So by turning off port forwarding, you are able to seed (I was able to for a little bit) because the reset command is never received.

Is this related to why uploading anything lags me out everywhere?

Even uploading to FTP does it.

Innoc · 08-26-2007, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous

Is this related to why uploading anything lags me out everywhere?

Even uploading to FTP does it.

You could just have an incredibly low upload speed.

StatisticZ · 08-26-2007, 10:07 PM

I use Azureus and don't have any problems seeding!!!

Iggy · 08-26-2007, 11:10 PM

Just go to your local office, and throttle the first management level person you can get your hands on.

It works for me.

zSilver_Fox · 08-26-2007, 11:46 PM

Common highspeed cable is 6 megabit. When just six people in an area use it, you're looking at 1 megabit per person. My DSL is 1.5 megabit :P.

Then again my boyfriend works for the phone company (CenturyTel in Lacrosse, WI), and 10 Megabit DSL is becoming standard in urban areas. In fact, in order to keep customers, most are getting upgraded to 3Mb+ from a standard 1.5 for no extra charge.

Innoc · 08-26-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox

Common highspeed cable is 6 megabit. When just six people in an area use it, you're looking at 1 megabit per person. My DSL is 1.5 megabit :P.

Then again my boyfriend works for the phone company (CenturyTel in Lacrosse, WI), and 10 Megabit DSL is becoming standard in urban areas. In fact, in order to keep customers, most are getting upgraded to 3Mb+ from a standard 1.5 for no extra charge.

I don't know about your area but DSL or cable is NEVER symmetrical in the available bandwidth. You may have 3 MB download on cable but your upload is 128K...period. DSL may be 1.5 MB download but upload is typically 256kb. I have an upgraded static DSL service which has 3 MB down and 512kb down. Making the assumption that Circ has asymmetrical service that would explain why he lags when uploading...he's saturating his circuits upload bandwidth.

Circuitous · 08-27-2007, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoc

You could just have an incredibly low upload speed.

I do have incredibly slow upload speed, but it doesn't explain why I download incredibly slowly when I upload things.

I've got Vonage, to boot, and if I upload something it sounds like I'm calling across the world a couple of times. The delay is absurd.

08-26-2007, 02:09 AM	#1
Mooga Colorless FTW D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A Small Box Affiliations: SRCDS.com Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Getting Around Comcast's Bittorrent Throttle THIS IS NOT A "warez" TOPIC. As many of you may know, Comcast has started to throttle seeding torrents. When it sees a user uploading via bittorrent it sends the user a reset command. Normally you want to forward your torrent port from your router to your local computer for faster speeds. However, it seems that the reset command is sent VIA that port! So by turning off port forwarding, you are able to seed (I was able to for a little bit) because the reset command is never received. __________________ ~ Mooga ...w00t? SRCDS.com \| Twitter

08-26-2007, 04:12 AM	#3
SizeableSSonic Joystick Junkie D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: I know where YOU live! Class/Position: Engineer or Sniper Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Shit, no wonder my torrents have been downloading so slow... __________________ I like chocolate milk.

08-26-2007, 04:34 AM	#4
zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	DSL ftw. __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

08-26-2007, 06:10 AM	#5
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08-26-2007, 05:56 PM	#9
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Flood them with support calls every time it happens. Couple hundred people do that and jam up their support lines they'd re-think the policy. __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

08-26-2007, 04:05 AM	#2
skuLL Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	rofl That's why I love my country. People don't even care about bittorrenting here in Brazil. You can download and upload anything, I mean, anything you want.

08-26-2007, 11:52 AM	#6
Marshmallow Noob D&A Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	haha owned go green!

08-26-2007, 05:44 PM	#7
Coronius Alcoholic Artist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	If my ISP would do that to me i'd fucking ditch them.

08-26-2007, 05:49 PM	#8
mistermojo the pumps dont work Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	damn i was wondering why it was happening i have usenet though so no big deal :>

08-26-2007, 06:25 PM	#10
punkrockrocks When patch will out? Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	This reminds me... One time I got a cease and desist letter telling me to delete my Pokemon Diamond and Pearl ROMs that I downloaded thru bittorrent from my ISP. But my little brother already had the actual games on his DS, so it was perfectly legal to have them... anyway, point of my story... ISP's hate torrents? I wonder if I still have the letter. I might scan it and upload it for epic lulz. __________________ MAKE MORE ESCAPE MAPS Ingame: punkrock Idle and support #nozoom, #ff.pickup

08-26-2007, 06:39 PM	#11
Coronius Alcoholic Artist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Never had any trouble from my isp, cept for like once in a month 1 hour downtime.

08-26-2007, 06:51 PM	#12
paranoidkirb Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O/D Pyro Gametype: Invade and Defend Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Fios FTW.

08-26-2007, 07:05 PM	#13
Coronius Alcoholic Artist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Also doing shit that will only upset your customers even if they are cheating with something that doesnt really concern you or will affect your its pretty fucked up and stupid.

08-26-2007, 10:07 PM	#16
StatisticZ My title is... Custom. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tri-State Area Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I use Azureus and don't have any problems seeding!!!

08-26-2007, 11:46 PM	#18
zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Common highspeed cable is 6 megabit. When just six people in an area use it, you're looking at 1 megabit per person. My DSL is 1.5 megabit :P. Then again my boyfriend works for the phone company (CenturyTel in Lacrosse, WI), and 10 Megabit DSL is becoming standard in urban areas. In fact, in order to keep customers, most are getting upgraded to 3Mb+ from a standard 1.5 for no extra charge. __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

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