Wich card ?

Thormier · 10-03-2007, 11:52 AM

Hey guys im planning on getting a new Graphics card when i get paid , ill have a budget of around 200-250 pounds

I was thinking

Either

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-083-HT

or

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=927

Or could anyone else recommend some ?

zSilver_Fox · 10-03-2007, 01:24 PM

I wouldn't make the jump for DX10 just yet. Very few games actually utilize it. It's like putting a 0-250 MPH speedometer on a moped that only goes up to 35.

I think the Radeon X1950XT is around the same range and offers great performance, as well as the nVidia equivalent (7950?).

GambiT · 10-03-2007, 01:37 PM

i'd just get a cheap card that will hold you over, i'm going to get a descent one to hold me over until the DX10.1(10.01, whatever) cards come out.

i need the video card and a processor and the comp i'm building is finished.

SomeOldGuy · 10-03-2007, 01:38 PM

It would really help if you gave us which OS (Vista or XP or ?), how much ram, CPU, and motherboard make/model.

Thief · 10-03-2007, 01:55 PM

Hi. I built a new rig for myself last month using Intel Q600 quad core/8800 GTS 640MB.
The 8800GTS is an amazing card.

Ihmhi · 10-03-2007, 06:08 PM

Do they make any cars that are not painted like 1985 Hondas?

Thormier · 10-03-2007, 10:00 PM

Iv got a p4 3.0ghz processor

1gb of ram ( Crucial ) soon to be 2gb

and im running on XP but may change to vista upon the purchase of the 2gb of RAM

Atm im thinking of the 640mb 8800 GTS

gizmofo · 10-03-2007, 11:25 PM

From what I've heard, the 8800 GTS is an amazing card so if your going to buy one, do that one.
I do agree with silver though, DX10.1 is coming out too, so if you can bear with your current setup, I'd wait it out.

BumGravy · 10-04-2007, 12:23 AM

To be honest with either of the cards you specced there a P4 3.0Ghz processor is going to bottleneck your system if its a single core.

What monitor and resolution do you game with? Also how beefy is your power supply as the ATi cards do need a lot of juice.

The 2900 pro is a very nice card but will only be available in limited numbers.
The Gts is a stonking card and would perform better out of the box than the 2900.

Difficult one to choose really especially with Nvidia releasing a new card in november and the details placing it around the Gts performance mark for less money....

If you go for an older dx9 card then definitely go for an ATi 1900xt or 1950pro over Nvidia 79xx

-=bingo-bango=- · 10-04-2007, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihmhi

Do they make any cars that are not painted like 1985 Hondas?

nope

i mean come on. the part of the computer that we dont look at most has to look the most sexy. am i right?

Nuk3m · 10-04-2007, 02:09 AM

if your not looking to run a HD monitor, id suggest not getting the HD2900, as it has similar bench's compared to the x1900xt series

Thormier · 10-04-2007, 12:22 PM

Ill be probably running at 1028x1024

Iv emailed Overclockers and told them what my motherboard was and my PSU and they said id be able to fit it

I have a 19 inch LCD

Thormier · 10-04-2007, 12:26 PM

Not that it matters but i also bought this PC from overclockers

BumGravy · 10-04-2007, 05:17 PM

If your gaming on a 19" LCD then i would go for the 2900pro. If you are familier with overclockers then you should be fine to OC the card to 2900xt speeds

Why not post on their forums i have always found them to be very helpful when asking about hardware choices!

Thormier · 10-04-2007, 10:58 PM

is my p4 3.0ghz processor really really really slow ?

zSilver_Fox · 10-04-2007, 11:08 PM

If I may ask, what's "Overclockers"?

What motherboard are you running? And a P4 3.0 WILL bottleneck just about any card above a GeForce Ti4200/Radeon 9x. It's not slow per say, but isn't powerful enough for the cards you want. You'd best upgrade your CPU (and if it uses a different socket, your motherboard too), and then your card.

Thormier · 10-04-2007, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox

If I may ask, what's "Overclockers"?

What motherboard are you running? And a P4 3.0 WILL bottleneck just about any card above a GeForce Ti4200/Radeon 9x. It's not slow per say, but isn't powerful enough for the cards you want. You'd best upgrade your CPU (and if it uses a different socket, your motherboard too), and then your card.

Can i ask what Bottle Neck means ?

Thormier · 10-04-2007, 11:30 PM

Hmmm i ordered my 8800GTS today , mybad =((((

So my pc wont run this at all ?

Thormier · 10-04-2007, 11:56 PM

Well , i just wanted to say im ordering a new CPU and Mobo later this month

Will this run better than my 9800pro till then ?

BumGravy · 10-05-2007, 04:05 AM

It will blow your 9800pro out of the water! 3-4 times as quick if not more.

Bottlenecking means that one component in your system is comparitavely slower than the rest. Your top of the range graphics card while it will eat graphics for breakfast your processor might not be fast enough to keep up. So your card will just sit there waiting for the processor to give it something to do.

Not a huge problem as it will still be miles quicker than your old card. Plus side is when you order a new processor and motherboard you will see another performance gain

Just a word of worning though your old ram is probably DDR and therefore not likely to work in your new motherboard unless you get a backwards compatible one.

10-03-2007, 11:52 AM	#1
Thormier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Wich card ? Hey guys im planning on getting a new Graphics card when i get paid , ill have a budget of around 200-250 pounds I was thinking Either http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-083-HT or http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=927 Or could anyone else recommend some ?

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zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I wouldn't make the jump for DX10 just yet. Very few games actually utilize it. It's like putting a 0-250 MPH speedometer on a moped that only goes up to 35. I think the Radeon X1950XT is around the same range and offers great performance, as well as the nVidia equivalent (7950?). __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

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zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If I may ask, what's "Overclockers"? What motherboard are you running? And a P4 3.0 WILL bottleneck just about any card above a GeForce Ti4200/Radeon 9x. It's not slow per say, but isn't powerful enough for the cards you want. You'd best upgrade your CPU (and if it uses a different socket, your motherboard too), and then your card. __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

10-03-2007, 01:38 PM	#4
SomeOldGuy older than dirt Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: just east of the jug handle Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	It would really help if you gave us which OS (Vista or XP or ?), how much ram, CPU, and motherboard make/model.

10-03-2007, 01:55 PM	#5
Thief Super SPY Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hi. I built a new rig for myself last month using Intel Q600 quad core/8800 GTS 640MB. The 8800GTS is an amazing card.

10-03-2007, 10:00 PM	#7
Thormier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Iv got a p4 3.0ghz processor 1gb of ram ( Crucial ) soon to be 2gb and im running on XP but may change to vista upon the purchase of the 2gb of RAM Atm im thinking of the 640mb 8800 GTS

10-03-2007, 11:25 PM	#8
gizmofo The Bestest Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	From what I've heard, the 8800 GTS is an amazing card so if your going to buy one, do that one. I do agree with silver though, DX10.1 is coming out too, so if you can bear with your current setup, I'd wait it out.

10-04-2007, 12:23 AM	#9
BumGravy Black Cyclops Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	To be honest with either of the cards you specced there a P4 3.0Ghz processor is going to bottleneck your system if its a single core. What monitor and resolution do you game with? Also how beefy is your power supply as the ATi cards do need a lot of juice. The 2900 pro is a very nice card but will only be available in limited numbers. The Gts is a stonking card and would perform better out of the box than the 2900. Difficult one to choose really especially with Nvidia releasing a new card in november and the details placing it around the Gts performance mark for less money.... If you go for an older dx9 card then definitely go for an ATi 1900xt or 1950pro over Nvidia 79xx

10-04-2007, 02:09 AM	#11
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	if your not looking to run a HD monitor, id suggest not getting the HD2900, as it has similar bench's compared to the x1900xt series

10-04-2007, 12:22 PM	#12
Thormier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ill be probably running at 1028x1024 Iv emailed Overclockers and told them what my motherboard was and my PSU and they said id be able to fit it I have a 19 inch LCD

10-04-2007, 12:26 PM	#13
Thormier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Not that it matters but i also bought this PC from overclockers

10-04-2007, 05:17 PM	#14
BumGravy Black Cyclops Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If your gaming on a 19" LCD then i would go for the 2900pro. If you are familier with overclockers then you should be fine to OC the card to 2900xt speeds Why not post on their forums i have always found them to be very helpful when asking about hardware choices!

10-04-2007, 10:58 PM	#15
Thormier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	is my p4 3.0ghz processor really really really slow ?

10-04-2007, 11:30 PM	#18
Thormier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hmmm i ordered my 8800GTS today , mybad =(((( So my pc wont run this at all ?

10-04-2007, 11:56 PM	#19
Thormier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well , i just wanted to say im ordering a new CPU and Mobo later this month Will this run better than my 9800pro till then ?

10-05-2007, 04:05 AM	#20
BumGravy Black Cyclops Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It will blow your 9800pro out of the water! 3-4 times as quick if not more. Bottlenecking means that one component in your system is comparitavely slower than the rest. Your top of the range graphics card while it will eat graphics for breakfast your processor might not be fast enough to keep up. So your card will just sit there waiting for the processor to give it something to do. Not a huge problem as it will still be miles quicker than your old card. Plus side is when you order a new processor and motherboard you will see another performance gain Just a word of worning though your old ram is probably DDR and therefore not likely to work in your new motherboard unless you get a backwards compatible one.

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