motd - Page 2

ekiM · 05-07-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scuzzy

I've never heard of clan servers banning pyro's... call me naive, but why do that?

In TFC the pyro is a terrible class. In CTF organised play he is categorically outclassed by the medic on offence and the soldier on defence. Therefore anyone using him in organised play is probably just messing around trying to annoy people or just unfamiliar with organised play altogether.

Ihmhi · 05-07-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ekiM

messing around trying to annoy people

Well no shit, that is what Pyros in TFC excel at. Gotta love some hot roasted fatty.

Scuzzy · 05-07-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ekiM

In TFC the pyro is a terrible class. In CTF organised play he is categorically outclassed by the medic on offence and the soldier on defence. Therefore anyone using him in organised play is probably just messing around trying to annoy people or just unfamiliar with organised play altogether.

I always considered the pyro a distraction force on a team, send him down first, flame the entire area, then send a medic through while the enemy's burning and their sight is hindered a bit... he's not a "get the kill" type of class, or a "get the flag" type of class... but his skill could be helpful, albeit no fun to play.

Scuzzy · 05-07-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ihmhi

Personally I like FF's current approach to the MOTD. Some big ass HTML graphic coded by some shitbag with no skills in coding or graphic arts is lame as all Hell. By reducing the space available to them, that will hopefully cut down on the idiots.

I agree with the whole massive graphics comment. However, I liked the ability to bold items that were important (ie what would get you banned) and also show the user their stats long term on the server in the motd.

ekiM · 05-07-2007, 01:14 PM

Sure hypothetically the pyro is an OK class but his weapons are just a bit too weak in TFC to ever be seen in "competitive" play. So, on servers that are trying to emulate "competitive" play, pyro is usually prohibited.

3allz · 05-07-2007, 01:40 PM

people forget in CTF play its 8v8, meaning 4 offence/defence and you dont wanna go wasting one of those spots for a pyro

own3r · 05-07-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuzzy

Owner, if you're willing, I'd like you to present that idea on bhopping and restrictions to our clan in the "Player to Clan Communication" forum. I think it has merit, it'd be good to have it come from you though.

I've never heard of clan servers banning pyro's... call me naive, but why do that?

Ill let you quote me on that so its still comming from me

Ihmhi · 05-07-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuzzy

I agree with the whole massive graphics comment. However, I liked the ability to bold items that were important (ie what would get you banned) and also show the user their stats long term on the server in the motd.

Do what TFC servers do; put a link to the stats on your site. If someone wants to see their stats, they go to your site. Boom, increase traffic, win/win. If someone is online playing FF, then they definitely have a web browser, so what is the big dealie?

Scuzzy · 05-07-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by own3r

Ill let you quote me on that so its still comming from me

The clan would want an open discussion with the playerbase, and I wouldn't presume to adequantely represent the wider FF playerbases side of any arguement. There are obviously very differing opinions about the game that I am not well versed in. Thanks anyway though.

Scuzzy

own3r · 05-07-2007, 05:24 PM

Why not invite them all here, there are quite a few testers on the forums which would contribute aswell as me. (20 odd)

Scuzzy · 05-07-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ihmhi

Do what TFC servers do; put a link to the stats on your site. If someone wants to see their stats, they go to your site. Boom, increase traffic, win/win. If someone is online playing FF, then they definitely have a web browser, so what is the big dealie?

TFC servers don't have the ability that Source servers do. From within the game in source servers we use the html of source to display a webpage specific to the end user that shows their stats, kill ratio, rank, etc. They don't have to leave the game to see their stats in webpage format.

Also, [o-t] admins get a different page that displays in the MOTD that displays a summary of information of the players in the game. Currently we do this in TFC with another tool that gives us a menu and then displays a players record like the following, so we know who is who without having to page out of the game (incidently this player record is a mock-up for our instruction web pages, this isn't the player's true record):

Scuzzy · 05-07-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by own3r

Why not invite them all here, there are quite a few testers on the forums which would contribute aswell as me. (20 odd)

That sounds good, what would probably be best is if you created a new thread on that particular topic outlining your idea. I'll point the clan to it and let them decide on an individual bases whether or not they want to respond here or just make their voice known in our clan forums.

Thanks,
Scuzzy

own3r · 05-07-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuzzy

That sounds good, what would probably be best is if you created a new thread on that particular topic outlining your idea. I'll point the clan to it and let them decide on an individual bases whether or not they want to respond here or just make their voice known in our clan forums.

Thanks,
Scuzzy

Since you asked

http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ead.php?t=9138

skuLL · 05-07-2007, 07:02 PM

Hey, I'll never play on O-T, not because of the rules, but because of the ping.
It's hard to play on non brazilian servers.

Circuitous · 05-08-2007, 09:19 PM

Anyone who bans bhopping in FF will immediately lose all respect from me.

Scuzzy · 05-09-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Anyone who bans bhopping in FF will immediately lose all respect from me.

That's the shortest and most ineffective motivational speech I've ever heard.

Circuitous · 05-09-2007, 12:41 AM

YOU DARE MOCK MY VERY SERIOUS THREAT, SCUZZY?

It is on.

Scuzzy · 05-09-2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

YOU DARE MOCK MY VERY SERIOUS THREAT, SCUZZY?

It is on.

You are so going down, it has already been broughten!

Ihmhi · 05-09-2007, 06:02 AM

I like Cadbury Eggs.

Scuzzy · 05-09-2007, 08:05 AM

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I like Cadbury Eggs.

Your argument is too convincing. We'll allow bhopping in FF after release and see how it goes. Thanks for your input, it opened our eyes.

05-08-2007, 09:19 PM	#35
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Anyone who bans bhopping in FF will immediately lose all respect from me. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-09-2007, 12:41 AM	#37
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	YOU DARE MOCK MY VERY SERIOUS THREAT, SCUZZY? It is on. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-09-2007, 06:02 AM	#39
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05-07-2007, 01:14 PM	#25
ekiM Arrogance is Bliss Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Sure hypothetically the pyro is an OK class but his weapons are just a bit too weak in TFC to ever be seen in "competitive" play. So, on servers that are trying to emulate "competitive" play, pyro is usually prohibited.

05-07-2007, 01:40 PM	#26
3allz Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	people forget in CTF play its 8v8, meaning 4 offence/defence and you dont wanna go wasting one of those spots for a pyro

05-07-2007, 05:24 PM	#30
own3r Custom mapper Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Why not invite them all here, there are quite a few testers on the forums which would contribute aswell as me. (20 odd)

05-07-2007, 07:02 PM	#34
skuLL Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Hey, I'll never play on O-T, not because of the rules, but because of the ping. It's hard to play on non brazilian servers.

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