First Impressions of a new Beta Tester - Page 3

o_broodingdude · 12-01-2006, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EtherealRage

BTW~

TOOL SUCKS

Incorrect. You are fired.

And these are all lies.

o_sh4x · 12-01-2006, 04:07 AM

A/D ppl are less important anyways.

Just kidding, its just that, when I used to play I was thinking that A/D was for ppl that didn't know how to defend a base as a team and were only good at spamming the flag.

A/D is probably going to be the most popular gameplay in FF though. With all the new players coming from other simpler games out there... A/D is more attractive than CTF for newbies that's for sure.

o_dragonjojo · 12-01-2006, 04:24 AM

nice post

o_moon-guardian · 12-01-2006, 04:28 AM

Smack isn't a nobuddy.

Infact, I was hoping Smack would have done a crazy POTW for FF

I mean c'mon man, you're a genius with art - Dust2Dust, the potw's jeeesh.

But - I totally 100% trust Smack's interpretations - like I said, he has a great eye. Hopefully he wasn't shy when suggesting anything about the maps, lighting, color, material changes, etc.

Doesn't matter that Smack doesn't Bhop in TFC - tbh, I hate the fact I HAVE to, to even compete in 2a!!! So don't be thinking Smack didn't deserve a Beta slot.

My question is, Will you supply your models and such to Gary's Mod? Maps and the liking? I have some crazy ideas for some .avi's using Gmod v10 if only it was with TFC/FF.....

I'm patiently waiting for FF -

o_psycnet · 12-01-2006, 04:29 AM

Man, leave it to the resident killjoys to fuck up a thread before it reaches the second page.

Awesome post, just what I was expecting, sock it to the world guys, you're so fuckign close 95% of us can taste the sweet sweet nectar of FF on our lips and we've all got raging hardons for it.

And Tu! and Scale can go have a pity party somewhere that's not in this thread, because this thread is for HAPPY OMG FF IS ALMOST OUT people only

Jiggles · 12-01-2006, 04:33 AM

Yeah guys, lets try and keep this thread clean of the usual bitchings

trepid_jon · 12-01-2006, 05:48 AM

Our beta tester selection "system" is essentially based on cronyism except without too much of the disregard toward qualifications.

I think in Smack's case, it was about his TFC experience, his interest in FF, his kickass videos, and how some of us have known (or at leasts known of) him for a while.

Speakin' of his kickass videos, here's Dust to Dust (it's a huge download). Which...the main reason why that gigantic video is on trepid.net is because of this little map that Jesse and I made for Smack for that video...and also because we switched hosts and wanted to utilize trepid.net's bigger storage capacity.

And yeah, Smack's reason for not playing cz2 is exactly what we have to fix. TFC's cz2 was a pretty underplayed, boring map...so we're hoping to make ff_cz2 less boring in any ways that we can. Trying to get rid of annoyances, because annoyances just drive players away.

o_lucid · 12-01-2006, 06:00 AM

Sounds like a blast, can't wait to play FF.

o_zydell · 12-01-2006, 06:10 AM

It's pathetic how all you guys cry about how the 'beta selection procedure' isn't fair and that it made you cry in real life: GET OVER IT and be happy for the ones beta-testing.

o_rannibunny · 12-01-2006, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by trepid_jon

And yeah, Smack's reason for not playing cz2 is exactly what we have to fix. TFC's cz2 was a pretty underplayed, boring map...so we're hoping to make ff_cz2 less boring in any ways that we can. Trying to get rid of annoyances, because annoyances just drive players away.

Personally I like CZ2 _way_ more than the insanely huge Canalzone with 9 (or seven? Not sure, can't find them anyway...) CPs, a seemingly indefinite number of secret passages and probably more crazy shit I don't even know... (Someone posted an QWTF Skillvideo with CZ on this page...)
This game just is a little harder than cs and stuff, so you will have maps that don't work as well/at all on public servers... I had some really great and enjoyable matches on CZ2 (Fullcap in a war feels great ^_^)

Btw. before you start (or go on) whining about not being in the beta just know that your chance of getting in is definitely way higher than mine ^_^
Hell, I'd understand if there was no download available for rannibunny as soon as the game is finished o_O
I sure as hell wouldn't allow me to play!

o_cosides · 12-01-2006, 06:42 AM

Smack is a n00b!!!!!

Nice report m8

Hope to see u again in FF

o_scale · 12-01-2006, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mervaka

why is ASM knowledge relevant? i'm using ASM for my major project this year.

So u know assembly but u dont know why its relevant?
U must be really good at it.

Assembly is used it almost any hack, it also give u to find exploits and where crashes occur.

o_qui · 12-01-2006, 07:04 AM

Interesting to see the views of a beta tester. Looking forward to FF quite a bit now

Quite honestly, if you didnt get selected for a beta, get over it. You'll be playing it in a few months and then you wont really care.

More beta tester posts i say! How does dm feel in general?

o_uncle-argon · 12-01-2006, 08:05 AM

Excellent update; this is the sort of thing I needed to hear to maintain my interest and excitement.

On the subject of the HWGuy, I hope that his missing head is currently an error model...

o_toffee · 12-01-2006, 08:15 AM

if anything I think the Beta testing should have as many 'newbies' as possible so that there is no distorted view on the problems with the game and its features.

eg. what would a newbies reaction be to people bunnyhopping all over the place... what would the reaction be to the usefulness of the training features...etc

this game is intended to be appealable to newbies, right?

o_groovyf · 12-01-2006, 08:15 AM

Indeed. Cheers for the post. Nice to hear something from someone coming at it from a fresh angle.

Need more input [/johnny 5]

o_rannibunny · 12-01-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toffee

if anything I think the Beta testing should have as many 'newbies' as possible so that there is no distorted view on the problems with the game and its features.

oh, damn. I was looking for ways to explain the importance of adding _me_ to the beta squad... but Toffee is right. We need as much people with a fresh start as possible.
If they are taught bunnyhopping from the beginning, how long will it take, etc...

Ahh, I forgot something important: I never played any TF before, didn't even hear about it, so I'm a newbie and therefore should be added to the beta-squad ^_^

Oh damn. This time I got carried away quite a bit too far, even for me (I'm allowed to get carried away further than you!) so I've moved this post into a new thread ^_^
http://forums.fortress-forever.com/s...ead.php?t=7287

**mervaka** · 12-01-2006, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scale

So u know assembly but u dont know why its relevant?
U must be really good at it.

Assembly is used it almost any hack, it also give u to find exploits and where crashes occur.

i code embedded ASM. that means i code microcontroller programs. do you have to be a complete dick about it?

as for FF feedback, i'm slowly letting my more critical feelings out as i find them.

tester selection? i think a good mix of fresh, and accomplished players is critical, and that's exactly what we have. also, there are quite a few like myself who haven't played properly in many years. i myself have all but lost the skills i once had baack in the day, but vaguely remember what the dynamics of the game were like.

leakage: pyrojumps are AWESOME! pyro can really move around now, just at quite a cost to H/A. tried them last night after being demonstrated last night by a fellow tester, and i can EASILY get from the SD2 yard to the roof. i'll leave a dev post any media.

o_smurf · 12-01-2006, 10:35 AM

It bothers me that some people here have to be so infantile whenever anyone pipes up having played a bit of FF. "OH NOES UR NOT SPESHAL BUT I AM, I KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!11!". Clue for you:- skills like being able to read/write HTML or assembly language or Kentuckian will not help you beta test a complex game like any built on the Source engine.

How about you consider why it is that you haven't seen FF yet:-

It is not complete;
There are things missing;
trepid_jesse said so.

Now, hypothesize for a moment that you (yes, you) are the leader of the free world. George W. Bush is an example of a person in such a position. Therefore, all the pretty people below you in the hierarchy of command are gonna treat you like George W. Bush and not show you things until they are fully tested, so you won't either hurt yourself, start a war or complain.

So, the crux of the matter:- the FF development team and their associates (including beta testers that so far aren't you) are working for you. They are doing this because they love you and want to hold you soooo tender.

Sit down and stfu.

o_ivaqual · 12-01-2006, 10:44 AM

I don't know what's the grief with cz2, i played it all the time (meaning when a server actually had it on). I liked the slower paced gameplay, heavily relying on tactics and teamplay. I think one of the best parts were squads forming "on their own" to escort a flagcarrier that was naturally extremely weak on its own, etc..

It's true though that it really got bad the last years as the few times the map actually popped up somewhere, no one knew what to do or ever tried to understand what was going on with the flags. (I'm talking about pubs here, I never played clan)

I must agree that cz2 wasn't easy to get into though, it hadn't one of those gameplay you immediately picked up.

On the other hand maybe everyone hated the slower gameplay, me being one of the few that actually prefer it to spastic bhop at 500 kph (which I like too actually).

12-01-2006, 05:48 AM	#47
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	Our beta tester selection "system" is essentially based on cronyism except without too much of the disregard toward qualifications. I think in Smack's case, it was about his TFC experience, his interest in FF, his kickass videos, and how some of us have known (or at leasts known of) him for a while. Speakin' of his kickass videos, here's Dust to Dust (it's a huge download). Which...the main reason why that gigantic video is on trepid.net is because of this little map that Jesse and I made for Smack for that video...and also because we switched hosts and wanted to utilize trepid.net's bigger storage capacity. And yeah, Smack's reason for not playing cz2 is exactly what we have to fix. TFC's cz2 was a pretty underplayed, boring map...so we're hoping to make ff_cz2 less boring in any ways that we can. Trying to get rid of annoyances, because annoyances just drive players away. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

12-01-2006, 04:07 AM	#42
o_sh4x Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	A/D ppl are less important anyways. Just kidding, its just that, when I used to play I was thinking that A/D was for ppl that didn't know how to defend a base as a team and were only good at spamming the flag. A/D is probably going to be the most popular gameplay in FF though. With all the new players coming from other simpler games out there... A/D is more attractive than CTF for newbies that's for sure.

12-01-2006, 04:24 AM	#43
o_dragonjojo Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	nice post

12-01-2006, 04:28 AM	#44
o_moon-guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Smack isn't a nobuddy. Infact, I was hoping Smack would have done a crazy POTW for FF I mean c'mon man, you're a genius with art - Dust2Dust, the potw's jeeesh. But - I totally 100% trust Smack's interpretations - like I said, he has a great eye. Hopefully he wasn't shy when suggesting anything about the maps, lighting, color, material changes, etc. Doesn't matter that Smack doesn't Bhop in TFC - tbh, I hate the fact I HAVE to, to even compete in 2a!!! So don't be thinking Smack didn't deserve a Beta slot. My question is, Will you supply your models and such to Gary's Mod? Maps and the liking? I have some crazy ideas for some .avi's using Gmod v10 if only it was with TFC/FF..... I'm patiently waiting for FF -

12-01-2006, 04:29 AM	#45
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Man, leave it to the resident killjoys to fuck up a thread before it reaches the second page. Awesome post, just what I was expecting, sock it to the world guys, you're so fuckign close 95% of us can taste the sweet sweet nectar of FF on our lips and we've all got raging hardons for it. And Tu! and Scale can go have a pity party somewhere that's not in this thread, because this thread is for HAPPY OMG FF IS ALMOST OUT people only

12-01-2006, 04:33 AM	#46
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah guys, lets try and keep this thread clean of the usual bitchings

12-01-2006, 06:00 AM	#48
o_lucid Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sounds like a blast, can't wait to play FF.

12-01-2006, 06:10 AM	#49
o_zydell Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It's pathetic how all you guys cry about how the 'beta selection procedure' isn't fair and that it made you cry in real life: GET OVER IT and be happy for the ones beta-testing.

12-01-2006, 06:42 AM	#51
o_cosides Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Smack is a n00b!!!!! Nice report m8 Hope to see u again in FF

12-01-2006, 07:04 AM	#53
o_qui Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bournemouth, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Interesting to see the views of a beta tester. Looking forward to FF quite a bit now Quite honestly, if you didnt get selected for a beta, get over it. You'll be playing it in a few months and then you wont really care. More beta tester posts i say! How does dm feel in general?

12-01-2006, 08:05 AM	#54
o_uncle-argon Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Excellent update; this is the sort of thing I needed to hear to maintain my interest and excitement. On the subject of the HWGuy, I hope that his missing head is currently an error model...

12-01-2006, 08:15 AM	#55
o_toffee Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	if anything I think the Beta testing should have as many 'newbies' as possible so that there is no distorted view on the problems with the game and its features. eg. what would a newbies reaction be to people bunnyhopping all over the place... what would the reaction be to the usefulness of the training features...etc this game is intended to be appealable to newbies, right?

12-01-2006, 08:15 AM	#56
o_groovyf Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Halifax, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Indeed. Cheers for the post. Nice to hear something from someone coming at it from a fresh angle. Need more input [/johnny 5]

12-01-2006, 10:35 AM	#59
o_smurf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Wales, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It bothers me that some people here have to be so infantile whenever anyone pipes up having played a bit of FF. "OH NOES UR NOT SPESHAL BUT I AM, I KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!11!". Clue for you:- skills like being able to read/write HTML or assembly language or Kentuckian will not help you beta test a complex game like any built on the Source engine. How about you consider why it is that you haven't seen FF yet:- It is not complete; There are things missing; trepid_jesse said so. Now, hypothesize for a moment that you (yes, you) are the leader of the free world. George W. Bush is an example of a person in such a position. Therefore, all the pretty people below you in the hierarchy of command are gonna treat you like George W. Bush and not show you things until they are fully tested, so you won't either hurt yourself, start a war or complain. So, the crux of the matter:- the FF development team and their associates (including beta testers that so far aren't you) are working for you. They are doing this because they love you and want to hold you soooo tender. Sit down and stfu.

12-01-2006, 10:44 AM	#60
o_ivaqual Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Europe, Front Yard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I don't know what's the grief with cz2, i played it all the time (meaning when a server actually had it on). I liked the slower paced gameplay, heavily relying on tactics and teamplay. I think one of the best parts were squads forming "on their own" to escort a flagcarrier that was naturally extremely weak on its own, etc.. It's true though that it really got bad the last years as the few times the map actually popped up somewhere, no one knew what to do or ever tried to understand what was going on with the flags. (I'm talking about pubs here, I never played clan) I must agree that cz2 wasn't easy to get into though, it hadn't one of those gameplay you immediately picked up. On the other hand maybe everyone hated the slower gameplay, me being one of the few that actually prefer it to spastic bhop at 500 kph (which I like too actually).

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