Why Did You Make the Switch?

XPelargos · 03-28-2013, 01:38 AM

Seriously.

TFC is more familiar, has more active players, more maps, more history, etc.

Me: Movement. Concs feel smoother, bhopping double jumping and ramp sliding and trimping just feel more fluid.

Demoman is so much better though. Pipes feel right, they were fiddly little bastards in TFC.

The soldier feels better to me in TFC, rockets packed a little more punch,

but scout feels better to me in FF.

So why did YOU make the switch?

KubeDawg · 03-28-2013, 03:38 AM

Because this is the closest thing to a TFC:Source we will ever get. Also the speed of it is excellent.

Raynian · 03-28-2013, 07:51 AM

There are still active servers in TFC?

I mean, there's d2f, and pickups, but I can't be assed sorting through all the bot servers to check for others. As far as I can see TN is dead, very rarely you get a couple people on the skills/escape servers, and that's really it.

**Elmo** · 03-28-2013, 08:45 AM

For me it was the offy flow then later the hard and soft caps which work great imo

caesium · 03-28-2013, 04:17 PM

i ran out of grens

**Bully** · 03-28-2013, 04:28 PM

Heard about it on the old far2cool UKTFCL forum and then some ex-TFC'er and ex-Beta tester made me do it.

FDA_Approved · 03-28-2013, 05:07 PM

I didn't.

Agent Buckshot Moose · 03-28-2013, 06:11 PM

Because it was the natural continuation of TFC after HL2 came out. The game is better balanced than TFC and moves smoother.

GeoKill-----> · 03-28-2013, 06:46 PM

Game movement did it for me.

It took me forever to properly conc, bhop, trimp etc in TFC, but in FF within the week it was naturally easier to pick up; no messing around with scripts!

Sabbath · 03-28-2013, 09:00 PM

Vinny made me.

the_cake · 03-28-2013, 09:54 PM

Gameplay:

Faster pace, you have to hit rockets, medics do more than +gren1+gren1+gren1+gren1, hw requires better precision and reflexes, demo has to juggle helping the front line and watching the pipes on most maps. I really hated the tfc soldier style that involved using rockets mostly for prefires then shotty+nades for confrontation. I still think the good outweighs the bad in terms of gameplay.

Community:

I really thought a hardcore game and community run by hardcore gamers was a great idea when I started FF. This was really stupid in retrospect. Community run projects and gamers are oil and water. I did e-meet some fun people though especially in the early days.

TFC requires a floppy drive and a commodore 64 and my grandpa played it and other TFC is old jokes:

TFC was aging; it's players were growing up and having less free time. It's rare that "new players" as in "completely new and not 20-30 year old ex-tfc" new players will take up an 8 year old at the time game. If Fortress were to survive it would need a new and modern incarnation that would attract a new generation of players. I took up FF in the interest of keeping fortress alive, as that simply wouldn't happen with TFC or TF2. That was the dream in the beginning anyway, but it didn't happen. In 1.5 years ff will be as old as TFC was when FF came out.

Features- · 03-29-2013, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_cake

TFC was aging; it's players were growing up and having less free time. It's rare that "new players" as in "completely new and not 20-30 year old ex-tfc" new players will take up an 8 year old at the time game. If Fortress were to survive it would need a new and modern incarnation that would attract a new generation of players. I took up FF in the interest of keeping fortress alive, as that simply wouldn't happen with TFC or TF2. That was the dream in the beginning anyway, but it didn't happen. In 1.5 years ff will be as old as TFC was when FF came out.

I rather play TFC as far as community goes, but I like the smooth movement in FF. I would like to see it as a big community but will never happen. People who enjoy fortress games are too old to put in the time an effort to collectively do anything together.

There are more TFC servers than FF servers and probably more newer players who play TFC than FF yet it is free go figure.

Rck · 03-31-2013, 09:40 PM

Never played any of TFC, just saw a friend playing it online and asked him about it and joined a few servers (Thanks LEGOMAN!)

Features- · 03-31-2013, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rck

Never played any of TFC, just saw a friend playing it online and asked him about it and joined a few servers (Thanks LEGOMAN!)

Fruitcake · 04-01-2013, 04:16 AM

Played on a tf2 classic mod server and whenever the server went quiet I needed somewhere else to play fortress games. That ended up being ff because I'm to lazy to learn tfc manual bhop.

AtomicSphinCteR · 04-01-2013, 07:29 AM

I was playing on a Neo TF server and saw someone on my friends list playing FF. I googled it, downloaded the game, joined a game on Talos (I think I spent the whole game piping the top of the security ramp on destroy) and I have been hooked ever since.
What hooked me was the fast pace of the game, and it just felt to me the way TFC was supposed to have been.
One thing I immediately liked was that there was a distinct learning curve and that really nailing the movement skills took some practice. The best parts of the game were not spoon fed to me, there was room to grow as a player.

the_cake · 04-04-2013, 01:59 AM

Totally forgot one really important one - reasonable explosion size. Making it difficult to counter spam with actual aim is just silly.

[TALOS]Smoke · 04-04-2013, 04:35 AM

I still play TFC a lot, primarily on df2. I think FF has stuck with what TFC was/is. I know it's not TFC, but it's a hell of a lot closer to it than TF2.
I would love to see some of the TFC aspects brought back/in to FF. I miss the gas grenades, and sometimes... *sigh* teles.
To me, FF is the logical progression for anyone who thinks the concept of TFC was perfect, and there are plenty of people that don't play anything but TFC.

Agent Buckshot Moose · 04-04-2013, 02:53 PM

Never really sure why gas grenades were removed a few patches ago. It was a very unique grenade for the spy.

Lynus · 05-25-2013, 01:35 PM

well certainly graphics played a bit of a decision for me back in 07 or whenever i picked up the game. the source engine was the tits.

the game itself is pretty good, most of the fun maps are ones that weren't tfc ports. the community and game used to be better imo... now it just feels desperate and cheap. too many changes from the gool ol days of no hard or soft cap w/ speed leaves something to be desired.

like others have said, ff is tfc's natural progression. however, recently ive been playing way more tfc - simply because as Features stated the community here blows cocks. id rather suck farts and fecal matter out of a herpe invested tranny ass. they not only annoy me, but they scare off potential new players nearly instantly in my experience. the majority of this low-life egotistical whiney baby, drug-addicted, tfc-rejected community are suckin fucks who fuckin suck and i don't liek em.

i only wish i was trollin.

(SO MAD RIGHT NOW)

03-28-2013, 01:38 AM	#1
XPelargos I like to spam binds Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Class/Position: Scoooooot Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 73 Times	Why Did You Make the Switch? Seriously. TFC is more familiar, has more active players, more maps, more history, etc. Me: Movement. Concs feel smoother, bhopping double jumping and ramp sliding and trimping just feel more fluid. Demoman is so much better though. Pipes feel right, they were fiddly little bastards in TFC. The soldier feels better to me in TFC, rockets packed a little more punch, but scout feels better to me in FF. So why did YOU make the switch?

03-28-2013, 03:38 AM	#2
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	Because this is the closest thing to a TFC:Source we will ever get. Also the speed of it is excellent. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

03-28-2013, 07:51 AM	#3
Raynian D&A Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ruining #pickups Class/Position: SPAWN CAMPING OH NO Gametype: Ragequitting Affiliations: [PMS]. [Shiney] Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	There are still active servers in TFC? I mean, there's d2f, and pickups, but I can't be assed sorting through all the bot servers to check for others. As far as I can see TN is dead, very rarely you get a couple people on the skills/escape servers, and that's really it. __________________ 7:00 PM - zE: eh tbh i like some stuff in us but a lot of stuff in us messes with my nerves 7:00 PM - zE: like watching fox news 7:00 PM - zE: its like wtf

03-28-2013, 08:45 AM	#4
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	For me it was the offy flow then later the hard and soft caps which work great imo __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

03-28-2013, 04:17 PM	#5
caesium Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: europe Class/Position: anything Gametype: everything Affiliations: #teamfail Posts Rated Helpful 27 Times	i ran out of grens __________________ Support FF:

03-28-2013, 04:28 PM	#6
Bully Beta Tester Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yorkshire, England Class/Position: Spectating Gametype: British Bulldogs Affiliations: ®™ ^ Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	Heard about it on the old far2cool UKTFCL forum and then some ex-TFC'er and ex-Beta tester made me do it. __________________ ®™ Support FF:

03-28-2013, 05:07 PM	#7
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	I didn't. __________________ Currently equipped: Rad Scarf of liberating happiness.

03-28-2013, 06:11 PM	#8
Agent Buckshot Moose Wiki Standards Team Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Geokill's closet Class/Position: Sniper/Demoman Gametype: CTF Affiliations: :e0: Co-leader Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Because it was the natural continuation of TFC after HL2 came out. The game is better balanced than TFC and moves smoother.

03-28-2013, 06:46 PM	#9
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Game movement did it for me. It took me forever to properly conc, bhop, trimp etc in TFC, but in FF within the week it was naturally easier to pick up; no messing around with scripts! __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

03-28-2013, 09:00 PM	#10
Sabbath Join Date: Mar 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 7 Times	Vinny made me.
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03-28-2013, 09:54 PM	#11
the_cake Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 144 Times	Gameplay: Faster pace, you have to hit rockets, medics do more than +gren1+gren1+gren1+gren1, hw requires better precision and reflexes, demo has to juggle helping the front line and watching the pipes on most maps. I really hated the tfc soldier style that involved using rockets mostly for prefires then shotty+nades for confrontation. I still think the good outweighs the bad in terms of gameplay. Community: I really thought a hardcore game and community run by hardcore gamers was a great idea when I started FF. This was really stupid in retrospect. Community run projects and gamers are oil and water. I did e-meet some fun people though especially in the early days. TFC requires a floppy drive and a commodore 64 and my grandpa played it and other TFC is old jokes: TFC was aging; it's players were growing up and having less free time. It's rare that "new players" as in "completely new and not 20-30 year old ex-tfc" new players will take up an 8 year old at the time game. If Fortress were to survive it would need a new and modern incarnation that would attract a new generation of players. I took up FF in the interest of keeping fortress alive, as that simply wouldn't happen with TFC or TF2. That was the dream in the beginning anyway, but it didn't happen. In 1.5 years ff will be as old as TFC was when FF came out.

03-31-2013, 09:40 PM	#13
Rck Join Date: Dec 2012 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Never played any of TFC, just saw a friend playing it online and asked him about it and joined a few servers (Thanks LEGOMAN!)

04-01-2013, 04:16 AM	#15
Fruitcake Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: In a gofer hole Gametype: AvD/IvD Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Played on a tf2 classic mod server and whenever the server went quiet I needed somewhere else to play fortress games. That ended up being ff because I'm to lazy to learn tfc manual bhop.

04-01-2013, 07:29 AM	#16
AtomicSphinCteR D&A Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lurking Class/Position: Conc. vs object suicides Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	I was playing on a Neo TF server and saw someone on my friends list playing FF. I googled it, downloaded the game, joined a game on Talos (I think I spent the whole game piping the top of the security ramp on destroy) and I have been hooked ever since. What hooked me was the fast pace of the game, and it just felt to me the way TFC was supposed to have been. One thing I immediately liked was that there was a distinct learning curve and that really nailing the movement skills took some practice. The best parts of the game were not spoon fed to me, there was room to grow as a player.

04-04-2013, 01:59 AM	#17
the_cake Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 144 Times	Totally forgot one really important one - reasonable explosion size. Making it difficult to counter spam with actual aim is just silly.

04-04-2013, 04:35 AM	#18
[TALOS]Smoke Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Killeen, Tx, USA Class/Position: Demo Defense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: [TALOS] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	I still play TFC a lot, primarily on df2. I think FF has stuck with what TFC was/is. I know it's not TFC, but it's a hell of a lot closer to it than TF2. I would love to see some of the TFC aspects brought back/in to FF. I miss the gas grenades, and sometimes... sigh teles. To me, FF is the logical progression for anyone who thinks the concept of TFC was perfect, and there are plenty of people that don't play anything but TFC.

04-04-2013, 02:53 PM	#19
Agent Buckshot Moose Wiki Standards Team Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Geokill's closet Class/Position: Sniper/Demoman Gametype: CTF Affiliations: :e0: Co-leader Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Never really sure why gas grenades were removed a few patches ago. It was a very unique grenade for the spy.

05-25-2013, 01:35 PM	#20
Lynus I like Ceyx Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MI Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	well certainly graphics played a bit of a decision for me back in 07 or whenever i picked up the game. the source engine was the tits. the game itself is pretty good, most of the fun maps are ones that weren't tfc ports. the community and game used to be better imo... now it just feels desperate and cheap. too many changes from the gool ol days of no hard or soft cap w/ speed leaves something to be desired. like others have said, ff is tfc's natural progression. however, recently ive been playing way more tfc - simply because as Features stated the community here blows cocks. id rather suck farts and fecal matter out of a herpe invested tranny ass. they not only annoy me, but they scare off potential new players nearly instantly in my experience. the majority of this low-life egotistical whiney baby, drug-addicted, tfc-rejected community are suckin fucks who fuckin suck and i don't liek em. i only wish i was trollin. (SO MAD RIGHT NOW) __________________ hef

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