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Old 07-23-2006, 04:07 AM   #1
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2fort?

I personally am bored with 2fort. However, I don't think it's wise to ignore the most popular map in TFC. Maybe you guys already have it half mapped but haven't released anything yet. But I have a feeling that it can't be good for a strained FF community if by the time both TF2 and FF are out, FF is missing 2fort.

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Old 07-23-2006, 04:18 AM   #2
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The FF staff currently has many maps in the works that we have not seen any screen shots yet. 2fort is one of those maps. So to answer your question, yes they are making a new and improved 2fort !!
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Old 07-23-2006, 04:32 AM   #3
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Old 07-23-2006, 07:16 AM   #4
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nice i have been wondering about this too, cant wait to see how it looks
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Old 07-23-2006, 08:24 AM   #5
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2fort is played too much seriously it makes me mad when i'm playing a good map and then we go to 2fort
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:05 AM   #6
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I love 2fort! Didn't it say in the dev journals that they performed the play tests on 2fort? I wouldn't worry about it.. rock2 and cz2 are two other personal favorites..
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:09 AM   #7
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2fort is just the perfect pub map.
Eeeek, pubs *runaway*
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:11 AM   #8
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Heh.. *busted* I'm a 100% pubber so...
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Old 07-23-2006, 04:34 PM   #9
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2fort is just a very good, easy to learn, simple, yet complex map which teaches well the tennants of the game. It makes me think of the "simple to learn yet difficult to master" tennant which is so prevalent in many popular games. 2fort just has all those elements that make a good map. That's why so many people like it.
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Old 07-23-2006, 05:21 PM   #10
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couldn't leave it out... it's the easiest map to learn, or at least one of the easiest. i personally love 2fort but that's because im a newB: ...
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Old 07-23-2006, 10:10 PM   #11
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2Fort is a map that defines TFC. You can't leave it out.
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Old 07-23-2006, 10:21 PM   #12
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I love 2fort for clan matches.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:24 AM   #13
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2fort, etf_forts, q3f_forts, or whatever version of forts you play is always a fun time. Just like "Mach", "Well", and other familiar maps.
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Old 07-24-2006, 02:30 AM   #14
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I think that 2fort will be a weight, chained to the ankles of FF and holding it down. 2fort is simple, I'll grant that, but it's also crappy and boring. With extra emphasis on crappy. It's not as bad as de_dust but I think leaving 2fort out of FF would be a revolutionary idea that will perhaps lead people to play *gasp* other maps and even other game types.

I know that 2fort will be included in FF, though, so I guess this is all moot.
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Old 07-24-2006, 02:47 AM   #15
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If you read the dev Journals you would notice that they are doing beta testing in both 2fort and dustbowl

2fort is great for pubs
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Old 07-24-2006, 03:41 AM   #16
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Nezumi[/left]]I think that 2fort will be a weight, chained to the ankles of FF and holding it down. 2fort is simple, I'll grant that, but it's also crappy and boring. With extra emphasis on crappy. It's not as bad as de_dust but I think leaving 2fort out of FF would be a revolutionary idea that will perhaps lead people to play *gasp* other maps and even other game types.

I know that 2fort will be included in FF, though, so I guess this is all moot.
granted... but being boring and crappy makes it easy for new players to learn.
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Old 07-24-2006, 04:11 AM   #17
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Well is* easy to learn


*or was. Can't speak for FF
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Old 07-24-2006, 04:17 AM   #18
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It's really not that boring or crappy. If you walk around it, and really really look at it from a mappers perspective, everything is pretty much perfectly placed and thought out.

Additionally, some areas are really cool looking (ie. the basement ceilings).
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:06 AM   #19
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I think that 2fort will be a weight, chained to the ankles of FF and holding it down. 2fort is simple, I'll grant that, but it's also crappy and boring. With extra emphasis on crappy. It's not as bad as de_dust but I think leaving 2fort out of FF would be a revolutionary idea that will perhaps lead people to play *gasp* other maps and even other game types.

I know that 2fort will be included in FF, though, so I guess this is all moot.
Yeah .. I'm pretty sure that 2fort was the map on the tf2 trailer. Let's hope for some major overhauls. On dustbowl too.
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Old 07-24-2006, 11:04 AM   #20
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2fort, etf_forts, q3f_forts, or whatever version of forts you play is always a fun time. Just like "Mach", "Well", and other familiar maps.
Don't know why mach is popular on kindergarten - the map is just broken due to its low ceilings (You literally hit the ceiling with your head on quarter height of a jump)

Forts, Well and other classic maps are unpopular in ETF because they are not really compatible with etf movement. Forts has too many edges, Well .. I don't know what, it just feels broken in etf.

I look forward to the day Don.ids ports his etf_spring to FF. This map shoots CTF to a new level with its pretty original design combining very open areas (base yard, pit, flagroom) small ones (all the corridors, basement being open and close at the same time, water path, main way). It introduces just literally a lot of "vertical" gameplay.

We need more japancs, springs and spiderx
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