Game functions properly, if i can join a server

theCops · 01-25-2009, 10:37 PM

The game is great (my alias is AngryCoach), but I'm having trouble joining games. the loading bar freezes about 3/4 of the way through. If I walk away from it for about 10 minutes, sometimes the game starts, other times it doesn't. Other HL2 mods do not do this. When I'm in the game and the map changes, it works fine.

What do I do?

GeoKill-----> · 01-25-2009, 11:22 PM

What are your computer specs, RAM, vid card etc..?

You might need your heapsize increase
http://www.tweakguides.com/HL2_7.html

theCops · 01-26-2009, 12:11 AM

AMD athlon x2 3800+ @ 2.25ghz
1GB corsair PC3200 memory @ 420mhz
ATi HD2600XT AGP

it's pretty much a system that you need to start turning the settings down for games released in 2008 and on.

I'll make a shortcut and add the parameters from that guide, thanks

GeoKill-----> · 01-26-2009, 12:30 AM

np, also try -dxlevel 8 or even 7 if you need the fps

lifer · 06-27-2009, 05:48 AM

i'm facing the same problem here. I've uninstall and reinstalled FF but in vain.

http://img195.imageshack.us/i/hangl.jpg/
http://img7.imageshack.us/i/hang2x.jpg/
The game freeze as shown in the pics.

I'm running the game on a intel e7300 dual core w/ 3gb ram and a geforce 9600 GT card.
Os is Window vista.

I've got team fortress 2 installed too, so shouldn't face the "sdk base" thing problem right?
Any advice please?

Bridget · 06-27-2009, 06:28 AM

Team Fortress 2 provides the Orange Box SDK, not the Half Life 2 Engine SDK.

[AE] 82694 · 06-27-2009, 01:59 PM

Check and see if sdk base is installed if not try installing it.

I have sdk base and sdk base orange box but I don't own TF2b or any OB games but do have a couple OB mods installed.

Mooga · 06-27-2009, 03:21 PM

I'm quite sure that having any HL2 game (That comes with the SDK) gives you the SDK Base for EP1 and OrangeBox.

Under Tools install the Source SDK Base.

[AE] 82694 · 06-27-2009, 03:56 PM

Ya mooga but he has tf2 only so is it the same in reverse? He might try installing a ep1 engine mod from steam works.

lifer · 06-27-2009, 04:15 PM

I've install all the source sdk i have in my steam
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9083/hang3.jpg

Also when i uninstall/reinstall the game, it works. But once i quit and try to rejoin the problem comes back...

I wonder if there's something wrong with steam itself...

[AE] 82694: eh so do i need to get hl2 ep1 installed?

**Elmo** · 06-27-2009, 04:18 PM

no he meant try installing one of the advertised mods in steam one of the source ep1 (non-OB) based mods.

That sounds like a weird problem btw. I don't know what to suggest.

Dr.Satan · 06-27-2009, 04:29 PM

it's actually fairly common, I get the same thing. I think it's b/c of vista sucking up all of the computer's resources. It generally takes me at least 5 / 10 min to connect to a server the first time I jump in-game. After that the time gets faster and faster, but never less than like 3/4 min. ever.

Edit: And it always hangs up on the "sending client info" part of the load.

GeoKill-----> · 06-27-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridget

Team Fortress 2 provides the Orange Box SDK, not the Half Life 2 Engine SDK.

pretty sure the OB sdk works as well

Dr.Satan · 06-27-2009, 08:42 PM

so yeah...changing heapsize actually helped out quite a bit...been playing all afternoon, and load times were only like 30/40 sec

[AE] 82694 · 06-27-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lifer

I've install all the source sdk i have in my steam
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9083/hang3.jpg

Also when i uninstall/reinstall the game, it works. But once i quit and try to rejoin the problem comes back...

I wonder if there's something wrong with steam itself...

[AE] 82694: eh so do i need to get hl2 ep1 installed?

Nope you have sdk base by your pic you should be fine.Post your system specs.

lifer · 06-28-2009, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

so yeah...changing heapsize actually helped out quite a bit...been playing all afternoon, and load times were only like 30/40 sec

Ok i'll try that.. thanks,
btw how do i use "mem_max_heapsize" along with "-heapsize"; not very sure how the first works...

My system specs..
http://img5.imageshack.us/i/hang4.jpg/
http://img198.imageshack.us/i/hang5.jpg/

**Elmo** · 06-28-2009, 09:25 AM

Yeah I thought you had said your specs in a previous post. Ah well

With what u got you'd be fine, should run like my PC and Laptop

Same gfx as my PC with a better cpu and 1 GB less ram
Lesser gfx as my laptop with better cpu and 1 GB less ram

(PC runs happy with spam thanks to better CPU)

I dont think the ram has anything to do with it really but yeah that heapsize.. i didn't know there was a function in game. AFAIK the "-heapsize 1572864" should work (That is 1.5GB which is probably not required)

lifer · 06-28-2009, 05:32 PM

I think i found a work-around this werid problem of mine... i just have to run team fortess 2 before i start Ff, everything works just fine... strange huh? watever rocks the boat i guess.

**Elmo** · 06-28-2009, 05:41 PM

That's really weird and I'm sure is also quite annoying. At least you can get on now though, I guess

StrYdeR · 07-04-2009, 04:27 PM

cl_forcepreload 1

Is a good command to add to your autoexec if you choose to add heapsize to the command line. Game take few seconds longer to load into the main menu as it preloads but server connects (verifying client/sending client info) and map changes speed up.

If that aint fast enought for ya install a small 10gig HD as a slave and shift windows paging files over to it turning off windows default settings so now youve got windows seperate from its paging files offloading some task load off the primary HD speeding things up. After doing this myself load times/map changes in battlefield 2 went from 2 or more minutes to 20-30 seconds on an aging rig.

01-25-2009, 10:37 PM	#1
theCops Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Game functions properly, if i can join a server The game is great (my alias is AngryCoach), but I'm having trouble joining games. the loading bar freezes about 3/4 of the way through. If I walk away from it for about 10 minutes, sometimes the game starts, other times it doesn't. Other HL2 mods do not do this. When I'm in the game and the map changes, it works fine. What do I do?

01-25-2009, 11:22 PM	#2
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	What are your computer specs, RAM, vid card etc..? You might need your heapsize increase http://www.tweakguides.com/HL2_7.html __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

01-26-2009, 12:30 AM	#4
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	np, also try -dxlevel 8 or even 7 if you need the fps __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

06-27-2009, 05:48 AM	#5
lifer Join Date: Jun 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i'm facing the same problem here. I've uninstall and reinstalled FF but in vain. http://img195.imageshack.us/i/hangl.jpg/ http://img7.imageshack.us/i/hang2x.jpg/ The game freeze as shown in the pics. I'm running the game on a intel e7300 dual core w/ 3gb ram and a geforce 9600 GT card. Os is Window vista. I've got team fortress 2 installed too, so shouldn't face the "sdk base" thing problem right? Any advice please? Last edited by lifer; 06-27-2009 at 05:51 AM. Reason: pics don't show

06-27-2009, 01:59 PM	#7
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Check and see if sdk base is installed if not try installing it. I have sdk base and sdk base orange box but I don't own TF2b or any OB games but do have a couple OB mods installed. __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL. Last edited by [AE] 82694; 06-27-2009 at 02:00 PM.

01-26-2009, 12:11 AM	#3
theCops Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	AMD athlon x2 3800+ @ 2.25ghz 1GB corsair PC3200 memory @ 420mhz ATi HD2600XT AGP it's pretty much a system that you need to start turning the settings down for games released in 2008 and on. I'll make a shortcut and add the parameters from that guide, thanks

06-27-2009, 06:28 AM	#6
Bridget Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: AVD Affiliations: TALOS Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	Team Fortress 2 provides the Orange Box SDK, not the Half Life 2 Engine SDK.

06-27-2009, 03:21 PM	#8
Mooga Colorless FTW D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A Small Box Affiliations: SRCDS.com Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I'm quite sure that having any HL2 game (That comes with the SDK) gives you the SDK Base for EP1 and OrangeBox. Under Tools install the Source SDK Base. __________________ ~ Mooga ...w00t? SRCDS.com \| Twitter

06-27-2009, 03:56 PM	#9
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ya mooga but he has tf2 only so is it the same in reverse? He might try installing a ep1 engine mod from steam works. __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL.

06-27-2009, 04:15 PM	#10
lifer Join Date: Jun 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I've install all the source sdk i have in my steam http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9083/hang3.jpg Also when i uninstall/reinstall the game, it works. But once i quit and try to rejoin the problem comes back... I wonder if there's something wrong with steam itself... [AE] 82694: eh so do i need to get hl2 ep1 installed?

06-27-2009, 04:18 PM	#11
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	no he meant try installing one of the advertised mods in steam one of the source ep1 (non-OB) based mods. That sounds like a weird problem btw. I don't know what to suggest. __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

06-27-2009, 04:29 PM	#12
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	it's actually fairly common, I get the same thing. I think it's b/c of vista sucking up all of the computer's resources. It generally takes me at least 5 / 10 min to connect to a server the first time I jump in-game. After that the time gets faster and faster, but never less than like 3/4 min. ever. Edit: And it always hangs up on the "sending client info" part of the load. __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF: Last edited by Dr.Satan; 06-27-2009 at 04:30 PM.

06-27-2009, 08:42 PM	#14
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	so yeah...changing heapsize actually helped out quite a bit...been playing all afternoon, and load times were only like 30/40 sec __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

06-28-2009, 09:25 AM	#17
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	Yeah I thought you had said your specs in a previous post. Ah well With what u got you'd be fine, should run like my PC and Laptop Same gfx as my PC with a better cpu and 1 GB less ram Lesser gfx as my laptop with better cpu and 1 GB less ram (PC runs happy with spam thanks to better CPU) I dont think the ram has anything to do with it really but yeah that heapsize.. i didn't know there was a function in game. AFAIK the "-heapsize 1572864" should work (That is 1.5GB which is probably not required) __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 06-28-2009 at 09:26 AM.

06-28-2009, 05:32 PM	#18
lifer Join Date: Jun 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think i found a work-around this werid problem of mine... i just have to run team fortess 2 before i start Ff, everything works just fine... strange huh? watever rocks the boat i guess.

06-28-2009, 05:41 PM	#19
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	That's really weird and I'm sure is also quite annoying. At least you can get on now though, I guess __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

07-04-2009, 04:27 PM	#20
StrYdeR FFapper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Utah Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	cl_forcepreload 1 Is a good command to add to your autoexec if you choose to add heapsize to the command line. Game take few seconds longer to load into the main menu as it preloads but server connects (verifying client/sending client info) and map changes speed up. If that aint fast enought for ya install a small 10gig HD as a slave and shift windows paging files over to it turning off windows default settings so now youve got windows seperate from its paging files offloading some task load off the primary HD speeding things up. After doing this myself load times/map changes in battlefield 2 went from 2 or more minutes to 20-30 seconds on an aging rig.

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