Locking Threads

MyNameIsChuck · 09-12-2007, 06:02 PM

I find locking of threads to be a pretty serious problem on most forums that I have visited. Locking of threads, I believe, should be a last resort, such as when people break the rules and break them repeatedly without care. I've never seen this happen because usually members get warned, and it rarely happens again.

Sometimes forum discussions get locked because some moderator gets tired of it, or somehow thinks that locking the discussion will make people happier. In reality, people get pissed off, and annoyed that the thread they made over 20 posts got locked by some dumb moderator. That dumb moderator probably never made a post or even read 10% of the thread they just locked for fun.

I really dislike when threads are locked to provide amusement to moderators. I want to make a formal protest because I believe locking this thread, does more harm than good.

http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...&postcount=109

But, what do you think? Should threads be locked only under the most extreme of rule breaking, or should they be locked by some punk moderator for fun?

Ginger Lord · 09-12-2007, 06:08 PM

That thread was going nowhere. People were spamming, people were bitching at each other, the topic was left behind and instead people were just flaming each other and/or being unproductive.

If you don't like the way things are done, you can submit a complaint or go elsewhere.

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Should threads be locked only under the most extreme of rule breaking, or should they be locked by some punk moderator for fun?

Atari · 09-12-2007, 06:11 PM

How do you know it was locked for fun?

Nuk3m · 09-12-2007, 06:11 PM

yeah i just read through some of that thread, i couldn't see how it was going to get back on topic. but for other threads I see your point there have been some mindless locking of threads for no reason. or predictable trolling and flaming for no reason in serious threads too, which end up getting locked because of it.

Paft · 09-12-2007, 06:19 PM

Couldn't give a toss. Get out more.

**mervaka** · 09-12-2007, 06:22 PM

ibtl

MyNameIsChuck · 09-12-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginger Lord

If you don't like the way things are done, you can submit a complaint or go elsewhere.

Bye, if FF was made as well as you moderate these forums good luck! You're going to need it.

Circuitous · 09-12-2007, 07:01 PM

That was easy, then.

Why a thread that's nothing but a bunch of personal attacks and winding around the same stupid question over and over and over and over and over was allowed to last so long in a supposedly flame-free forum is beyond me. The lock was long overdue.

Everything · 09-12-2007, 07:09 PM

Locking that thread was a most, the end.

i'm hungry..

~kev~ · 09-12-2007, 07:26 PM

An example I want to bring up this is thread I started and was locked within just a few minutes - http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...ad.php?t=10508

And now here we are, the FF developers have mentioned releasing the game before the 17th.

http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...ad.php?t=10541

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Might not even be released the 17th. Could be earlier! Very exciting.

On the FF home page - http://www.fortress-forever.com

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Fortress Forever Team - 2007-09-11 05:10 CDT
Edit: Just an addendum; i'm sure you've heard that TF2 has now announced they will release on the same date, so we are looking at getting this in your hands sooner than September 17th to ensure everyone will get some time to play before the beheamoth comes.

But when I asked about the monday release and if the game could be released on friday - BAM, its locked.

Innoc · 09-12-2007, 07:29 PM

I suspect most of the variations you guys see and/or complain about are due to the loose organization within FF. It's not like they have rigid rules and/or enforcement. It's going to vary some from moderator to moderator. Kinda how the cookie crumbles really.

Everything · 09-12-2007, 07:30 PM

Well kev, there's one reason why your post got locked -

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Originally Posted by DEVLOL

uh... don't download it til friday the 21st to make yourself happy.

your post is pointless

and the second was probably locked due to statistic's behavior...i dunno just guessing...

bye, i got some tea and needz it badly

-=bingo-bango=- · 09-12-2007, 08:05 PM

i got no problem when a real dev locks a forum, i have respect for them, i just hate it when new guys abuse their powers

the only time i lock anything is if it breaks the rules. its not like a thread going off topic is a bad thing if theres nothing left to talk about on the topic

Suite307 · 09-12-2007, 08:16 PM

They give me delicious FF i give them delicious love.

zSilver_Fox · 09-12-2007, 08:18 PM

Oh god don't start whining about the Babes thread.

If you don't like the rules, go ahead and leave. Don't like the community? Leave. Don't like the mods? Leave. And PLEASE make sure your entire head is infront of the shotgun.

~kev~ · 09-12-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Well kev, there's one reason why your post got locked -
and the second was probably locked due to statistic's behavior...i dunno just guessing...

Its a slap in the face to tell me to shut up (by locking my thread), while other people can talk about the same topic. Two dev's or moderators are talking about the same thing - releasing FF early.

Now that the topic of releasing FF before the 17th has been brought up again, in a different thread and even on the FF home page, how about someone unlocking my thread.

GhOsT · 09-12-2007, 08:32 PM

Not saying it was right to lock your original thread, but why unlock it now? There's already discussion on it in multiple other threads. What is so special about yours?

Nuk3m · 09-12-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

That was easy, then.

Why a thread that's nothing but a bunch of personal attacks and winding around the same stupid question over and over and over and over and over was allowed to last so long in a supposedly flame-free forum is beyond me. The lock was long overdue.

nothing against you man but for the last month ive been reading your posts, your making yourself look like an ass with your remarks as of late. yeah, im the one to talk, but thats why i went inactive and stopped posting much.

**mervaka** · 09-12-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -=bingo-bango=-

i got no problem when a real dev locks a forum, i have respect for them, i just hate it when new guys abuse their powers

what? i'm an ff dev just like any other..

and to be honest, this thread serves no purpose but to destroy the integrity of these forums..

SomeOldGuy · 09-12-2007, 08:52 PM

Considering that right now there is only 1 moderator (me) and the rest are developers (aka the reason these forums even exist), am I to take it that I am the "punk moderator" and the one who locks threads for "amusement"?

If it's unclear how to deal with forum issues, you can essentially do one of several things if you don't like how the forums are moderated:

1) PM the moderator in question
2) PM one/some/all of the admins/developers
3) Leave

Bitching about it on the forums leads to nothing but ridicule, flaming, and the appearance that one needs some cheese to go with the whine.

09-12-2007, 06:02 PM	#1
MyNameIsChuck Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Locking Threads I find locking of threads to be a pretty serious problem on most forums that I have visited. Locking of threads, I believe, should be a last resort, such as when people break the rules and break them repeatedly without care. I've never seen this happen because usually members get warned, and it rarely happens again. Sometimes forum discussions get locked because some moderator gets tired of it, or somehow thinks that locking the discussion will make people happier. In reality, people get pissed off, and annoyed that the thread they made over 20 posts got locked by some dumb moderator. That dumb moderator probably never made a post or even read 10% of the thread they just locked for fun. I really dislike when threads are locked to provide amusement to moderators. I want to make a formal protest because I believe locking this thread, does more harm than good. http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...&postcount=109 But, what do you think? Should threads be locked only under the most extreme of rule breaking, or should they be locked by some punk moderator for fun?

09-12-2007, 06:22 PM	#6
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09-12-2007, 07:01 PM	#8
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	That was easy, then. Why a thread that's nothing but a bunch of personal attacks and winding around the same stupid question over and over and over and over and over was allowed to last so long in a supposedly flame-free forum is beyond me. The lock was long overdue. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

09-12-2007, 07:09 PM	#9
Everything This is still alive? Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Naples, FL Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Locking that thread was a most, the end. i'm hungry.. __________________ Steam Profile

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Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	I suspect most of the variations you guys see and/or complain about are due to the loose organization within FF. It's not like they have rigid rules and/or enforcement. It's going to vary some from moderator to moderator. Kinda how the cookie crumbles really. __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

09-12-2007, 06:11 PM	#3
Atari Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	How do you know it was locked for fun?

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Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yeah i just read through some of that thread, i couldn't see how it was going to get back on topic. but for other threads I see your point there have been some mindless locking of threads for no reason. or predictable trolling and flaming for no reason in serious threads too, which end up getting locked because of it.

09-12-2007, 06:19 PM	#5
Paft Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK - http://forums.fortress-forever.com Class/Position: [O] Med Gametype: CTF/Skills Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	Couldn't give a toss. Get out more.

09-12-2007, 08:05 PM	#13
-=bingo-bango=- Spirit Studios Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: CTF Affiliations: Blue Team Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i got no problem when a real dev locks a forum, i have respect for them, i just hate it when new guys abuse their powers the only time i lock anything is if it breaks the rules. its not like a thread going off topic is a bad thing if theres nothing left to talk about on the topic __________________ Quote: Originally posted by Bridget [>] Who gives a shit? Tired of hearing about this...

09-12-2007, 08:16 PM	#14
Suite307 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	They give me delicious FF i give them delicious love.

09-12-2007, 08:18 PM	#15
zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Oh god don't start whining about the Babes thread. If you don't like the rules, go ahead and leave. Don't like the community? Leave. Don't like the mods? Leave. And PLEASE make sure your entire head is infront of the shotgun. __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

09-12-2007, 08:32 PM	#17
GhOsT Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Not saying it was right to lock your original thread, but why unlock it now? There's already discussion on it in multiple other threads. What is so special about yours?

09-12-2007, 08:52 PM	#20
SomeOldGuy older than dirt Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: just east of the jug handle Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Considering that right now there is only 1 moderator (me) and the rest are developers (aka the reason these forums even exist), am I to take it that I am the "punk moderator" and the one who locks threads for "amusement"? If it's unclear how to deal with forum issues, you can essentially do one of several things if you don't like how the forums are moderated: 1) PM the moderator in question 2) PM one/some/all of the admins/developers 3) Leave Bitching about it on the forums leads to nothing but ridicule, flaming, and the appearance that one needs some cheese to go with the whine.

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