wtf is this shit? L4D 2?

[YomMamasHouse]

First the music companies don't want to give us free stuff, then suddenly the gaming industry doesn't either. Bastards.

[greenday5494]

Originally Posted by -=bingo-bango=-

how in the hell would that be DLC sized?

*cough TF2*

[Lost]

-ragdoll dismemberment with added gore

How is this monumental?

-incendiary ammunition

This video in question seems different than what I've read on the rumor-filled forums, maybe it'll pan out differently.

-4 new characters with completely new dialogue

The most notable improvement but until we hear more, it could be voice acting and new models, nothing that we haven't seen in dozens of free mods, albiet not of this quality.

-improved AI Director, now with better item factoring

Another marked improvement but something that could be done separately in a patch to existing material.

-5 new campaigns in a completely different part of the country (imagine the assets)

Nothing remarkable about this except that Valve usually pays great attention to detail in their maps. There are quite a few WIP and working campaigns available. And that was all done before the SDK was made public.

-4+ added melee weapons

Patch worthy but they seem to have added a lot of extras to the melee, I'm sure they'll polish it greatly before release.

-3+ added guns

Another small improvement.

-an estimated 700 more zombies per campaign

This will be impressive if they do it with the current machines running the game in mind. I imagine that would require a massive reworking of the current version of Source. IF those zombies were added to the hordes you encounter, increasing the number spawned in a horde rather than the number of hordes spawned.

-several new boss infected

I haven't seen any proof by screens or videos of several, just one. If they're as decent with their AI as the current ones, then that'll be pretty nice.

-reworked existing bosses

Definitely a bonus, but like all AI, people will learn their weaknesses. I'm sure they're going to recondition them for versus mode as well; some of them are just worthless in certain maps unless you can put them to work in the proper situations. Happens to require teamwork and if you play versus often you know how lame many players can be.

-camp prevention changes

I will be interested in seeing this. Probably not something that can be added to the current maps without serious reworking.

-likely to be dozens of new normal zombie skins, including inflammable hazmat wearing zombies

All the new zombies are a testament to how much effort Valve is willing to put into this game. That and the rest of it add up to a decent addition to the L4D line. Everyone had to know they'd be marketing on the massive success of the original, and that doesn't make it a bad thing.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of trolls and just plain bitches who like to throw a fit, or throw things out of proportion, about different ideals of what a game should contain. I would pay $25-$30 for what I've seen so far, it's episodic, something that has been successful with the HL2 line so far. Why not make it that way? For what has been released, I don't feel it's worth the $50+ it will probably end up costing, like I happily pre-paid for L4D. And I feel damned sure that I've gotten my moneys worth out of it.

One thing is certain and that is everything you have seen will change in some way, big or small, into another fun game. All that remains to be seen is the price, for me anyways.

[-=bingo-bango=-]

Originally Posted by Lost

[...]

almost all of those things are answered...

Originally Posted by -=bingo-bango=-

do some research before you start your bitching

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009...ew/#more-12370
http://media.libsyn.com/media/rps/20...eless_Show.mp3

Originally Posted by greenday5494

*cough TF2*

*cough hasnt even been added to 360 yet and one of the TF2 updates hasnt come close to the amount of content as L4D2 would be*

[-=bingo-bango=-]

also,
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/988/988416p2.html

it talks about L4D2 and whats in store for L4D1 in the future

[Lost]

Yah Bingo, they sure were answered, by lots of speculation and rumor mills on the forums. Those links you posted, yep, lots of new shit in there.

Really, provide me something convincing and I'll give you a point. I've read a dozen different sites now presenting the same things. While looking good and sounding like it'll be fun, I don't see any reason for me to hop on the bandwagon with you. Yes, we have a differing opinion, but next time read my post before you start bitching at me.

[ensiform]

Bingo, I also gathered they've added a sort of "reverse" cresendo event where you're supposed to reach the alarm and shut it off..

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-mov...e-alarm/319532

[Doctor Zyo]

I'm not impressed, it just looks like L4D but with more Black People.

[Mooga]

The whole underlying engine is changed. I fail to see how people seem to think that Valve is trying to rip people off.

Plus:
1) L4D will CONTINUE TO HAVE UPDATED SUPPORT
2) Valve always makes great games. I have no problem paying for a sequel.

[fishBurger]

I like the idea of SOF style dismemberment. That's a new feature, right?
I don't have L4D but I wasn't aware you could blow zombies heads off.

[Lost]

Yeah, you can pop heads, shoot off legs and arms but not after they've ragdolled. I hope they leave the ridiculous physics on the hunter and smoker, I love seeing them pinwheel across the dark sky when someone gets a well timed headshot.

[Desyphur]

I'M GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT NEW STUFF.

Not really, to be honest, I can't wait for this.

[Damascus]

I don't like zombie games that take place in broad daylight... I think that's the problem D:

[Bridget]

Originally Posted by Damascus

I don't like zombie games that take place in broad daylight... I think that's the problem D:

Yeah, because the trailer sums up the whole game.

[Lost]

After you get used to the way the game plays, the scare factor is nonexistent. The thrill is in the rush of infected and a badly timed tank. A balanced versus game is top notch as well.

[Bridget]

Games are only scary when enemy encounters are limited.
(see: Penumbra, System Shock 2)

[BinaryLife]

I didn't buy L4Dead because I didn't have the cash, so the sequel helps me as I will only be buying that.


However, my moral outrage goes to the fact that Left4Dead gets a sequel so quickly, yet we have to wait until after 2012 to see Episode 3.

[-=bingo-bango=-]

Originally Posted by Lost

Yeah, you can pop heads, shoot off legs and arms but not after they've ragdolled.

and they would die on impact

Originally Posted by Lost

Yah Bingo, they sure were answered, by lots of speculation and rumor mills on the forums. Those links you posted, yep, lots of new shit in there.

Im not going to quote the whole damn article for you

[Paft]

L4D is one of Jack Thompson's faves atm.

[Lost]

@ Bingo - find better articles.

@ Paft - I can see it now, accusing Valve of championing the cause for extermination of the Mexican people due to the outbreak of the swine flu.