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Old 12-25-2007, 01:47 AM   #1
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ADL community remakes?

Pet and Eradicatus of the .id ADL community have both stated that they do not "embrace" anyone remaking their maps for FF. So, if you are a mapper, you probably want to stear clear of their maps.

http://forums.invade-defend.com/inde...howtopic=11710

BTW, the .id community is huge... they seem to have shunned classic ADL play (or maybe just FF) for TF2.

So much for trying to get their input and promote ADL play.

-edit ... well after a couple of days they are sounding better
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Old 12-25-2007, 04:39 AM   #2
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Old 12-25-2007, 04:54 AM   #3
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who cares, screw'em.

what maps did they make anyway?

if their map is in the "request" thread and nobody will do it because they dont "embrace" it, i'll do it just to piss'em off.

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Old 12-25-2007, 06:29 AM   #4
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Great, let's go and support the game that fucked over most of the veterans. The ADL mappers are fucking geniuses.
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:40 PM   #5
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well they aren't exactly negative in there, most of the guys were pretty nice. Just sounds like some of them are still seeing problems with the mod and aren't happy about them.
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:59 PM   #6
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That's just lame, I bet non of the fuckers ever even touched the FF install file!
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What maps were made by ADL?????
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What maps were made by ADL?????
not made by... but rather, made for

Avanti
Cornfield
Dustbowl
Defend
Maya
Asti
Ksour
Palermo
Kandahar
Castleargh2
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Old 12-26-2007, 10:50 PM   #9
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not made by... but rather, made for

Avanti
Cornfield
Dustbowl
Defend
Maya
Asti
Ksour
Palermo
Kandahar
Castleargh2
Dusk
:O

Well if noone's wanting to make a remake of avanti on their side, I say do it anyway, because it's a popular map that needs to be introduced to FF. Same goes for Ksour.
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Old 12-26-2007, 10:58 PM   #10
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:O

Well if noone's wanting to make a remake of avanti on their side, I say do it anyway, because it's a popular map that needs to be introduced to FF. Same goes for Ksour.
I have no idea which maps were made by whom .... oh well.

So far we have Avanti, Cornfield and Dustbowl. That is a decent start but we need about 6 ADL maps.
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Old 12-27-2007, 02:13 AM   #11
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i'll be completely honest here, i dont give a god damn if they dont want their maps made, if their going to do them themselves thats one thing. i'll make their maps just because ppl want them, screw what they think.

the nice me...

i will give them credit for it though, after all it was their maps.
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not made by... but rather, made for

Avanti
Cornfield
Dustbowl
Defend
Maya
Asti
Ksour
Palermo
Kandahar
Castleargh2
Dusk
U forgot about Osaka! that was a great map for demoman pipejumping, the sky was crazy high
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:19 PM   #13
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Hi there. I guess I should explain the situation at .id before you get to rushed conclusions.

As you know, .id is an AvD guild created when TFC was the newest Fortress game. When .iders heard of FF people got very excited and wanted to try it out along with TF2 before making a decision on which game the guild would stick (TFC, FF or TF2). It seems that most of the admins and members are tired of TFC so FF isn't a eeh... game "new" enough to please them, while TF2 is "new" enough to satisfy their gaming needs.

However, its not true that .id doesn't support FF. Admins and members have tried it and most of them have it installed, while some play it regularly. Basicaly, the guild is divided in three, more or less: the TFC regulars, the TF2 regulars and the FF regulars. That's the reason why, right now, the guild has around 5 TFC servers, 6 TF2 servers and 2 FF servers (though I've never seen the TF2 and FF servers with players two days straight =S)

Anyway, most of the TFC regulars there are probably waiting until more AvD maps are made for FF before switching to it, and maybe bots to atract players to the server. Some members have started mapping for FF (Pon is an active member in the FF forums I think? And Kes asked help on the .id Map forum on how to set up Hammer for FF, and said that he'll be working on an AvD map, avit if I recall correctly). As I posted on the thread 4est made in the .id guild forums, the maps that seem better for pub play are:
-Dustbowl Style:
- Dustbowl (duh and done)
- Baconbowl
- Sandbowl
- The Cove (on the works)
- Maya
-Avanti Style
- Avanti (duh again)
- Asti
- Palermo (done)
- Ksour
- Cornfield (done)

Other maps that would help if remade are: Respite, Bayeux (both by Kes, but remember that were Pet and Erad who said that they didn't want map remakes, so you could ask him for permission), Momentum, Point du Hoc and Navarone (but pdh_r was made by Erad or Pet I think, same with Navarone). And I believe Dustplate was used in league play?

-This is how I see it, but I'm just an AvD average player so my views may be wrong =O-
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:33 PM   #14
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Thanks for the feedback Firefox.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:56 PM   #15
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Okay, stay away from their maps.Try to make your own, cool maps :P
Not everyone wants to play maps which he played for a long time.Give us some fresh doods
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Pon is an active member in the FF forums I think?
I wouldn't say I'm 'active' per se (especially with christmas and all that lately), though I'm likely more active here than at .id :P

Firefox pretty much hits the nail on the head with his post though, I think.


As for who did the maps, Sandbowl was by Eradicatus. pdh_r, and asti were by Pet (and I think Navarone was also, not 100% on that tho). Though, reading the post on the .id forums, I'm not sure Pet said he didn't want his maps remade, just that he 'didn't think it was worth it'?
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Well at this point, we need help/feedback/assistance... anything to promote ADL and ADL mapping. I hope the ADL threads I posted don't get lost as being just "bitching".

I have to admit that I was quite surprised by the initial response on the .id forums. However, the thread did become productive.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:53 PM   #19
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As for who did the maps, Sandbowl was by Eradicatus. pdh_r, and asti were by Pet (and I think Navarone was also, not 100% on that tho). Though, reading the post on the .id forums, I'm not sure Pet said he didn't want his maps remade, just that he 'didn't think it was worth it'?
Damnit, so Sandbowl can't be remade (if the mappers follow Erad's wishes at least =O). However, I could ask Pet about his maps - especially Asti, since people seems to like it a lot to goof around. Point du Hoc is also a nice map if there are enough players and looked pretty well in TFC, so in FF it can be awesome. Navarone... Never seen someone who liked it with passion (in fact I don't like it), most of the time people leaves when it's chosen.

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They. are. bitches.
Haha, not really (well, Erad maybe... He just likes to rant a lot xD). However most have gotten the TF2 illness or think FF is too similar to TFC to be worth playing it since they have got enough with 10 years of TFC.

By the way, is .id the only AvD community? Maybe you should ask for opinions to TFC AvD leagues (if you haven't already) to boost league play or something.
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Old 12-28-2007, 04:29 AM   #20
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Here's my opinion on it.

It's a map.

No one is going to get sued over it.

Make them if you want.
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