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Old 08-10-2005, 04:02 PM   #21
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Old 08-10-2005, 04:45 PM   #22
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if valve were making tfc2 then i would be extremely hapy, but they are making tf2
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Old 08-10-2005, 04:49 PM   #23
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God damn I hate it when people talk about "TFC2".
Are they refering to TF2 or TF: Source?
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:12 PM   #24
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"TF2" generally refers to "Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood of Arms," the game that went nowhere.

"TFC2" and "TF: Source" generally refer to the TFC port to HL2, by Valve, that may or may not be in production.

The way I see it, they were working on TF2 while developing the Source engine. Two things happened. Source showed massive capability to improve on the negine they were using for TF2, *and* they took over Day of Defeat, which (by the looks of it) is, basically, what they were planning for TF2 anyway.

So they put TF2 on the backburner without saying anything else, because that's the kind of people they are. Now, with DoD:Source practically done, any reason they have to do Brotherhood of Arms is essentially gone. Any Team Fortress game they make for Source will probably just be TFC2.

This also helps to explain their weirdness about discussing Fortress Forever and why they took to Day of Defeat so readily.

Of course there's a 90% chance I'm completely wrong.
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:13 PM   #25
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For the record, it's TFC:S.
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Old 08-10-2005, 06:29 PM   #26
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From what the initial screens of TF2 it looks like what BF2 is. Now that EA is Valves commerical publisher as well...things look dodgy.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:00 AM   #27
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:35 AM   #28
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i bet they will come out with a ricochet : souce game before brotherhood in arms ever comes out


rocochet : s ahahhaah....hahah....
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Old 08-11-2005, 03:35 AM   #29
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"TF2" generally refers to "Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood of Arms," the game that went nowhere....etc etc
No shit, but people are stupid and say TFC2 when they're talking about TF2 or think TF2 is TFC2. TFC:S is too long, TF:S sounds much better
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Old 08-11-2005, 03:47 AM   #30
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I'm going to go start a thread dedicated to counting the number of times a person with a post count of less than 15 started a thread about 'Where is TFC:S, TF2, etc'.

It will be a popular thread in which everyone will post, damnit.
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:19 PM   #31
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The guys who made tfc were hired by valve and started woring on TF2. Production of TF2 came to a hault when they realized that the in-development source engine would provide a much better engine for TF2. They could not announce this to the world because half-life 2 and the source engine were kept secret. So it is true that tf2 has been in development for over 5 years it was put on hold and put on the backburner.. it appears that the current priority list for valve is half-life 2/cs/dod/everything else/tf2.

They have mentioned that they are still working on it and there was a "leak" bit of information from a guy who supposedly saw some of tf2 when he visited valve.

It will come out and it will probably suck.. from the old bits of information on the project it looked like they were making tf2 be a cross between tfc and cs... YUCK!
No, the guys who made Team Fortress (on Quake) were hired by Valve to produce TF2. TFC was developed by these people to supposedly test out stuff for TF2.

TF2 was at E3 at '98 or '99, putting it at over 6 or 7 years of development. TF2 has shifted engines numerous times. I believe it started off as a Quake2 mod, then a HL mod, then a standalone game on its own engine, and now probably on the source engine (i think there may be another one in there, not sure). As someone stated above, the reason Valve gave for the delay was due to the development of the source engine.
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