Obama's Patriot Act

Scuzzy · 02-28-2010, 02:59 PM

Democrat House passed it.
Democrat Senate passed it.
Obama signed it.

Done. Feel free to attack them as you did Bush. Or be called a hypocrit, either way is fine.

Scuzzy

Hype · 02-28-2010, 03:07 PM

gotta love america, democracy is fake.

GenghisTron · 02-28-2010, 03:57 PM

Not surprising in the least. Also, anyone remember back to when Obama criticized the Bush administration's domestic/foreign policy, and in the very next breath introduces a measure that goes BEYOND Bush-era policy?

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If you still buy into the Democrat vs. Republican thing, well, you have my condolences. At the end of the day, there's very few, minor differences between them.

Hype · 02-28-2010, 06:04 PM

How the hell is he is able to do that?

the system fails.

Innoc · 02-28-2010, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenghisTron

If you still buy into the Democrat vs. Republican thing, well, you have my condolences. At the end of the day, there's very few, minor differences between them.

I completely agree

GenghisTron · 02-28-2010, 06:36 PM

It's all about this.

Hawk Eye · 02-28-2010, 08:34 PM

For those of us living in a cave- mind explaining what just passed?

Not necessarily an opinion on it- but the actual bill.

Scuzzy · 02-28-2010, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawk Eye

For those of us living in a cave- mind explaining what just passed?

Not necessarily an opinion on it- but the actual bill.

Patriot Act, same one that was unanimously approved by congress under Bush but was considered "horrible" by the democrats. You know, the reason the democrats believe they were elected was to get rid of it... The one that they say makes us not safer but actually less safe. Same, exact, bill. Guess they don't want us to be safe.

Scuzzy

Professional · 03-01-2010, 01:12 AM

News flash: Democracy died long ago. Its a slow downward spiral from here. As GhengisTron said, they're pretty much the same party anyways, just represented by different industries.

Unfortunately as some of the rhetoric that msnbc is spinning, the democrats seem to just be getting lazy now.

Note: I haven't heard the entire speech or researched anything related to this bill, infact no one in this thread has even managed to post the name of it unless its called "Obama's Patriot Act"

uBeR · 03-01-2010, 01:47 AM

Professional, you aren't supposed to know what anyone here is saying. It's as if someone spoke to you in tongues and expected you to make some sort of response. It would be absurd, of course. That's the whole point of partisan spin. You're not supposed to know what "Obama's Patriot Act" means, except that it's supposed to scare you.

Here is a news link that can hopefully shed some light for you in a manner that you can actually understand and without nonsensical platitudes. Astute readers will note that Democrats unfortunately had to withhold protections to privacy because they lacked the required amount to block filibuster from Republicans.

GenghisTron · 03-01-2010, 02:21 AM

You can't honestly project the blame on anyone else BUT the Democrats, uBer, come on.

S. 1692:

USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act of 2009

Sponsor:

Sen. Patrick Leahy [D-VT]

Cosponsors:
Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]
Dianne Feinstein [D-CA]
Edward Kaufman [D-DE]
Amy Klobuchar [D-MN]
Bernard Sanders [I-VT]
Sheldon Whitehouse [D-RI]

Did the republicans force them to do that too? What stopped the Democrats from just... letting it expire? That way, they don't have to face the evil filibuster, and they don't look like a bunch of hypocritical assholes. So both the House AND the Senate voted for it (aka Democrats voted for it, after they sponsored it) and then Obama, a Democrat signed it. And you're telling me that Republicans are somehow responsible for all this? I personally think both parties are a joke, but come on, let's get real here.

stray kitten · 03-01-2010, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hype

How the hell is he is able to do that?

the system fails.

I have been wondering this since his 2nd day in office.

Scuzzy · 03-02-2010, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uBeR

Astute readers will note that Democrats unfortunately had to withhold protections to privacy because they lacked the required amount to block filibuster from Republicans.

I believe the term you're looking for is: Veto.

Scuzzy

Iggy · 03-02-2010, 04:35 AM

I can't say I'm totally surprised.....

Saddened.... yes..... but not surprised.

Scuzzy · 03-02-2010, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iggy

I can't say I'm totally surprised.....

Saddened.... yes..... but not surprised.

Which is what I hear a lot of democrats saying. It's interesting, while the campaign was going on they all cheered at the "change" that he'd bring, they all touted the lies she spoke, but now that he's doing the same thing it's "Oh well it's still Bush's fault, Obama's doing what should be done!" Riiiiiight.

Where's the change?

Scuzzy

YomMamasHouse · 03-02-2010, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Same, exact, bill

Same, exact, bill...... minus everything but three sections.

Iggy · 03-02-2010, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuzzy

Where's the change?

Scuzzy

It was in my pocket, but Pelosi found it.

Scuzzy · 03-05-2010, 02:41 AM

-----

The Obama administration announced today that they're reading all your e-mails. Discuss how bad Bush was to detract from this fact.

Scuzzy

Hawk Eye · 03-05-2010, 08:15 AM

^ Evidence?

Scuzzy · 03-05-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawk Eye

^ Evidence?

If you're not familar with projects Einstein, Einstein 2, and Einstein 3 you've been living in the dark the last couple of years.

Scuzzy

02-28-2010, 02:59 PM	#1
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Obama's Patriot Act Democrat House passed it. Democrat Senate passed it. Obama signed it. Done. Feel free to attack them as you did Bush. Or be called a hypocrit, either way is fine. Scuzzy __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

02-28-2010, 03:07 PM	#2
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02-28-2010, 06:04 PM	#4
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02-28-2010, 06:36 PM	#6
GenghisTron AKA LittleAndroidMan D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dystopia Class/Position: Demo/Medic Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [TALOS] [SR] Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	It's all about this. __________________ The Catacombs Steam Last.fm

03-01-2010, 01:47 AM	#10
uBeR Not ****** Yet D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Professional, you aren't supposed to know what anyone here is saying. It's as if someone spoke to you in tongues and expected you to make some sort of response. It would be absurd, of course. That's the whole point of partisan spin. You're not supposed to know what "Obama's Patriot Act" means, except that it's supposed to scare you. Here is a news link that can hopefully shed some light for you in a manner that you can actually understand and without nonsensical platitudes. Astute readers will note that Democrats unfortunately had to withhold protections to privacy because they lacked the required amount to block filibuster from Republicans. __________________ OCCUPATION 101. *One would think a simple task would be, well, simple. Maybe not for simpletons.*

02-28-2010, 08:34 PM	#7
Hawk Eye Who the fuck is this guy? D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O Preferred Gametype: AvD Affiliations: [AE] Asseaters Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	For those of us living in a cave- mind explaining what just passed? Not necessarily an opinion on it- but the actual bill.

03-01-2010, 01:12 AM	#9
Professional Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Gametype: A/D Affiliations: Un- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	News flash: Democracy died long ago. Its a slow downward spiral from here. As GhengisTron said, they're pretty much the same party anyways, just represented by different industries. Unfortunately as some of the rhetoric that msnbc is spinning, the democrats seem to just be getting lazy now. Note: I haven't heard the entire speech or researched anything related to this bill, infact no one in this thread has even managed to post the name of it unless its called "Obama's Patriot Act"

03-01-2010, 02:21 AM	#11
GenghisTron AKA LittleAndroidMan D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dystopia Class/Position: Demo/Medic Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [TALOS] [SR] Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	You can't honestly project the blame on anyone else BUT the Democrats, uBer, come on. S. 1692: USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act of 2009 Sponsor: Sen. Patrick Leahy [D-VT] Cosponsors: Benjamin Cardin [D-MD] Dianne Feinstein [D-CA] Edward Kaufman [D-DE] Amy Klobuchar [D-MN] Bernard Sanders [I-VT] Sheldon Whitehouse [D-RI] Did the republicans force them to do that too? What stopped the Democrats from just... letting it expire? That way, they don't have to face the evil filibuster, and they don't look like a bunch of hypocritical assholes. So both the House AND the Senate voted for it (aka Democrats voted for it, after they sponsored it) and then Obama, a Democrat signed it. And you're telling me that Republicans are somehow responsible for all this? I personally think both parties are a joke, but come on, let's get real here. __________________ The Catacombs Steam Last.fm

03-05-2010, 02:41 AM	#18
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	----- The Obama administration announced today that they're reading all your e-mails. Discuss how bad Bush was to detract from this fact. Scuzzy __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

03-05-2010, 08:15 AM	#19
Hawk Eye Who the fuck is this guy? D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O Preferred Gametype: AvD Affiliations: [AE] Asseaters Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	^ Evidence?

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