Casbah

o_puppychow · 09-20-2006, 09:52 PM

It's a damn shame no one is making it. Just wanted to point that out if there's anyone else who likes it like I do, and has the skillz.

I really need to learn how to map.

o_geokill-----> · 09-20-2006, 10:02 PM

I thought SizzleSonic was going to work on it, may be wrong but still hopefully someone else makes it b/c I'm not a big fan how his past maps

o_sizeablessonic · 09-20-2006, 10:39 PM

Yea... I was doing Casbah... I did have a bit done, including one of the yards, however, it still didn't look quite right.... and I had no idea how I could actauly make it more fun to play. I had been having this little layout of a map of my own running about in my head for a while, and decided to see what would happen if I started it a tiny bit, it kept getting better, and now is coming along very nicely (seriously. It is. However, I still know none of you are going to believe me unless you see some screenshots).

So yea... if someone wants to pick it up, be my guest.

o_theres *nothing* here · 09-20-2006, 11:33 PM

*Walks into room*

THE SHAREEF DON'T LIKE IT!

dah da-nah-nah

ROCK THE CASBAH, ROCK THE CASBAH!

*Walks out of the room*

o_puppychow · 09-21-2006, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SizeableSSonic

Yea... I was doing Casbah... I did have a bit done, including one of the yards, however, it still didn't look quite right.... and I had no idea how I could actauly make it more fun to play. I had been having this little layout of a map of my own running about in my head for a while, and decided to see what would happen if I started it a tiny bit, it kept getting better, and now is coming along very nicely (seriously. It is. However, I still know none of you are going to believe me unless you see some screenshots).

So yea... if someone wants to pick it up, be my guest.

yeah, not to be a jerk, but you've started and stopped like 5 source related projects.

o_sizeablessonic · 09-21-2006, 12:08 AM

Three... to be exact. It's ok though. This is just something I am doing to practice level design.

o_imbrifer · 09-21-2006, 12:23 AM

Many mappers pick up and drop maps. I've got one I'm seriously working on, 3 that are waiting for FF entities (essentially complete) and maybe 2 or 3 more that I fully intend to finish, I'm just not inspired to right now (and some have been that way for months).

It is hard to sustain creativity for one map. When you work on two or three maps with different themes, your creativity flows between them. On one day I feel like making fortressy battlements, and on another I feel like making a horror-filled house for Obsidian Conflict. This way I don't get frustrated, and I learn many things.

Things I learn while mapping on FF maps I take elsewhere, and visa-versa. For me its about enjoying making art, and creating a fun, playable map. In that order.

If there are some dead maps along the way, it doesn't matter because all that means is I have learned from them.

o_puppychow · 09-21-2006, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SizeableSSonic

Three... to be exact. It's ok though. This is just something I am doing to practice level design.

understood. but if it's just for practice then don't tell the community you are making it: that might preclude someone else who would possibly complete it from ever undertaking it to begin with.

o_geokill-----> · 09-21-2006, 12:54 AM

I nominate Nezumi to remake Casbah

o_sizeablessonic · 09-21-2006, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imbrifer

Many mappers pick up and drop maps. I've got one I'm seriously working on, 3 that are waiting for FF entities (essentially complete) and maybe 2 or 3 more that I fully intend to finish, I'm just not inspired to right now (and some have been that way for months).

It is hard to sustain creativity for one map. When you work on two or three maps with different themes, your creativity flows between them. On one day I feel like making fortressy battlements, and on another I feel like making a horror-filled house for Obsidian Conflict. This way I don't get frustrated, and I learn many things.

Things I learn while mapping on FF maps I take elsewhere, and visa-versa. For me its about enjoying making art, and creating a fun, playable map. In that order.

If there are some dead maps along the way, it doesn't matter because all that means is I have learned from them.

Yea, that's the reason I dropped Casbah.... it was no fun, and I was not inspired, with the current map I am working on, it's the exact opposite, I have a lot of creativity involved, and I am very inspired from different sources (including maps seen on this forum... don't worry, I am not going to blatantly copy a map).

**mervaka** · 09-21-2006, 01:12 AM

i'm all for copying the initial layout of the areas. it's what preserves scale. from there you can much more easily change the features of the map and add the details in

o_geokill-----> · 09-21-2006, 01:15 AM

Change the respawns
Make it closer to everything else

o_nezumi · 09-21-2006, 03:53 AM

Eh, I never really liked Casbah that much. Plus I don't have the textures.

Unless I wind up moving back to Bothell/Seattle sooner than I planed OR unless I'm struck by the best idea evar I'm probably not going to start any more maps untill FF comes out and I can finish all the ones I started.

At least not for FF.

o_pixel · 09-21-2006, 04:30 AM

I would make it, but it would be pretty crappy. I'll try if you want

Lost · 09-21-2006, 05:02 AM

I love the map, if only for aesthetics and originality. But it needs more ways into the bases, its too easy to camp if you've got 10 players that are halfassed, muchless the 20 and 30 most pubs usually have.

o_theres *nothing* here · 09-22-2006, 02:35 AM

The temple thingy has to be bigger though, eh.

And the bell has to work!

The thing needs more cow bell.

o_nodnarb · 09-22-2006, 03:29 AM

umm, I don't think you are thinking of the right map...

o_imbrifer · 09-22-2006, 03:59 AM

I'm trying some new stylistic things.. using displacements in new ways to see if its pretty, opening up the map some more, making it slightly more realistic (you dont 'fall in' to your spawn anymore). I have yet to change the layout, but i can distribute what i make and the community can decide whether we want to mix it up (add other routes, etc).

o_pixel · 09-22-2006, 04:08 AM

keep the basic routes.

o_nodnarb · 09-22-2006, 04:12 AM

yeah, otherwise it would be like the oriinal casbah

09-20-2006, 09:52 PM	#1
o_puppychow Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Casbah It's a damn shame no one is making it. Just wanted to point that out if there's anyone else who likes it like I do, and has the skillz. I really need to learn how to map.

09-21-2006, 01:12 AM	#11
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	i'm all for copying the initial layout of the areas. it's what preserves scale. from there you can much more easily change the features of the map and add the details in __________________ Support FF:

09-21-2006, 05:02 AM	#15
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	I love the map, if only for aesthetics and originality. But it needs more ways into the bases, its too easy to camp if you've got 10 players that are halfassed, muchless the 20 and 30 most pubs usually have. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

09-20-2006, 10:02 PM	#2
o_geokill-----> Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tejas Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I thought SizzleSonic was going to work on it, may be wrong but still hopefully someone else makes it b/c I'm not a big fan how his past maps

09-20-2006, 10:39 PM	#3
o_sizeablessonic Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewere in Nevada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yea... I was doing Casbah... I did have a bit done, including one of the yards, however, it still didn't look quite right.... and I had no idea how I could actauly make it more fun to play. I had been having this little layout of a map of my own running about in my head for a while, and decided to see what would happen if I started it a tiny bit, it kept getting better, and now is coming along very nicely (seriously. It is. However, I still know none of you are going to believe me unless you see some screenshots). So yea... if someone wants to pick it up, be my guest.

09-20-2006, 11:33 PM	#4
o_theres nothing here Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Walks into room THE SHAREEF DON'T LIKE IT! dah da-nah-nah ROCK THE CASBAH, ROCK THE CASBAH! Walks out of the room

09-21-2006, 12:08 AM	#6
o_sizeablessonic Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewere in Nevada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Three... to be exact. It's ok though. This is just something I am doing to practice level design.

09-21-2006, 12:23 AM	#7
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Many mappers pick up and drop maps. I've got one I'm seriously working on, 3 that are waiting for FF entities (essentially complete) and maybe 2 or 3 more that I fully intend to finish, I'm just not inspired to right now (and some have been that way for months). It is hard to sustain creativity for one map. When you work on two or three maps with different themes, your creativity flows between them. On one day I feel like making fortressy battlements, and on another I feel like making a horror-filled house for Obsidian Conflict. This way I don't get frustrated, and I learn many things. Things I learn while mapping on FF maps I take elsewhere, and visa-versa. For me its about enjoying making art, and creating a fun, playable map. In that order. If there are some dead maps along the way, it doesn't matter because all that means is I have learned from them.

09-21-2006, 12:54 AM	#9
o_geokill-----> Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tejas Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I nominate Nezumi to remake Casbah

09-21-2006, 01:15 AM	#12
o_geokill-----> Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Tejas Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Change the respawns Make it closer to everything else

09-21-2006, 03:53 AM	#13
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Eh, I never really liked Casbah that much. Plus I don't have the textures. Unless I wind up moving back to Bothell/Seattle sooner than I planed OR unless I'm struck by the best idea evar I'm probably not going to start any more maps untill FF comes out and I can finish all the ones I started. At least not for FF.

09-21-2006, 04:30 AM	#14
o_pixel Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I would make it, but it would be pretty crappy. I'll try if you want

09-22-2006, 02:35 AM	#16
o_theres nothing here Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The temple thingy has to be bigger though, eh. And the bell has to work! The thing needs more cow bell.

09-22-2006, 03:29 AM	#17
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	umm, I don't think you are thinking of the right map...

09-22-2006, 03:59 AM	#18
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm trying some new stylistic things.. using displacements in new ways to see if its pretty, opening up the map some more, making it slightly more realistic (you dont 'fall in' to your spawn anymore). I have yet to change the layout, but i can distribute what i make and the community can decide whether we want to mix it up (add other routes, etc).

09-22-2006, 04:08 AM	#19
o_pixel Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	keep the basic routes.

09-22-2006, 04:12 AM	#20
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	yeah, otherwise it would be like the oriinal casbah

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