Spy Cloaking issue

Epidemicke · 12-03-2009, 06:51 PM

I'm not sure if this is on purpose or not, but friendly attacks seem to turn off a spy's cloak.

I mean, if I'm trying to sneak through a battlefield, a friendly Demoman can uncloak me by shooting at me.

It's kind of annoying, and well, I just thought I should mention it if you decide to fix it in the next patch or something.

Credge · 12-03-2009, 07:01 PM

It's from the increase in movement, I believe.

For example, a shotgun blast should not uncloak you but an explosion pushing you will.

Epidemicke · 12-03-2009, 07:28 PM

Is it purposeful?

**squeek.** · 12-03-2009, 07:34 PM

As long as teammates can push you, yes, it's on purpose. Without it, you'd be able to be pipe jumped, etc by a teammate while cloaked.

Epidemicke · 12-03-2009, 07:36 PM

hm

That sucks

It's kind of frustrating when you finally manage to bob and weave in between your enemy's rockets and get behind enemy lines then your dumbass demoman blows your cloak

Epidemicke · 12-03-2009, 07:42 PM

Maybe instead of measuring the speed you measure the distance?

**squeek.** · 12-03-2009, 07:43 PM

Distance of what? Distance is part of speed.

Epidemicke · 12-03-2009, 07:49 PM

Distance travelled while in flight.

Like every time you go in the air while cloaked, it starts a counter and once you travel say 20m THEN you uncloak.

MonoXideAtWork · 12-03-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Epidemicke

Distance travelled while in flight.

Like every time you go in the air while cloaked, it starts a counter and once you travel say 20m THEN you uncloak.

I believe the problem with this is that you are attempting to cross the yard in stealth.

Given the speed decrease that cloaking imparts, the ability to be pulled out of cloak by errant explosions, one would surmise that it is best served to travel to the enemy base uncloaked, although disguised as a friendly to confuse snipers, or as an enemy to get past sentry guns.

Also keeping in mind that firing any weapon (except tossing a grenade that you primed prior to cloaking) also removes your cloak, then it would seem that cloaking would only be useful when you are trying to sneak around inside an enemy base or are trying to lose a pursuing enemy.

Also bear in mind that when you cloak all the time, your teammates hate you. Many will shoot you purposefully to uncloak you. This is not done to ruin your play experience, but to A. Encourage you to attack the enemy base in a more direct manner and B. To prevent you from cloaking in main travel lanes within your base or the yard where you may disrupt other attackers.

So if you are skulking around the yard, and a friendly soldier decloaks you, think of it like "hey, I'll cover you, run to the enemy base".

Epidemicke · 12-03-2009, 09:16 PM

Well yeah, and I don't have any problem with this often, but one of my tactics is to get behind the enemy line then pick them off one by one (seeing as they'd be totally distracted, dealing with my team and all)

GenghisTron · 12-03-2009, 10:10 PM

Don't rely on cloak so much.

yfni · 12-13-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GenghisTron

Don't rely on cloak so much.

As the best spy in the world I fully encourage everyone to play as they see fit

ian.de · 12-17-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by yfni

As the best spy in the world

qft

12-03-2009, 06:51 PM	#1
Epidemicke Join Date: Dec 2009 Class/Position: Defensive Spy Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Spy Cloaking issue I'm not sure if this is on purpose or not, but friendly attacks seem to turn off a spy's cloak. I mean, if I'm trying to sneak through a battlefield, a friendly Demoman can uncloak me by shooting at me. It's kind of annoying, and well, I just thought I should mention it if you decide to fix it in the next patch or something.

12-03-2009, 07:01 PM	#2
Credge FF Loremaster Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	It's from the increase in movement, I believe. For example, a shotgun blast should not uncloak you but an explosion pushing you will. __________________ "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan

12-03-2009, 07:34 PM	#4
squeek. Stuff Do-er Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait) Affiliations: Mustache Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times	As long as teammates can push you, yes, it's on purpose. Without it, you'd be able to be pipe jumped, etc by a teammate while cloaked. __________________ #FF.Pickup ¤ Fortress-Forever pickups My Non-official Maps Released FF_DM_Squeek - FF_2Mesa3_Classic - FF_Siege_Classic Beta FF_Myth - FF_Redlight_Greenlight Sick of the people on the internet, always moanin'. They just moan. - Karl Pilkington

12-03-2009, 07:36 PM	#5
Epidemicke Join Date: Dec 2009 Class/Position: Defensive Spy Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	hm That sucks It's kind of frustrating when you finally manage to bob and weave in between your enemy's rockets and get behind enemy lines then your dumbass demoman blows your cloak Last edited by Epidemicke; 12-03-2009 at 07:37 PM.

12-03-2009, 07:43 PM	#7
squeek. Stuff Do-er Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait) Affiliations: Mustache Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times	Distance of what? Distance is part of speed. __________________ #FF.Pickup ¤ Fortress-Forever pickups My Non-official Maps Released FF_DM_Squeek - FF_2Mesa3_Classic - FF_Siege_Classic Beta FF_Myth - FF_Redlight_Greenlight Sick of the people on the internet, always moanin'. They just moan. - Karl Pilkington Last edited by squeek.; 12-03-2009 at 07:44 PM.

12-03-2009, 07:28 PM	#3
Epidemicke Join Date: Dec 2009 Class/Position: Defensive Spy Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Is it purposeful?

12-03-2009, 07:42 PM	#6
Epidemicke Join Date: Dec 2009 Class/Position: Defensive Spy Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Maybe instead of measuring the speed you measure the distance?

12-03-2009, 07:49 PM	#8
Epidemicke Join Date: Dec 2009 Class/Position: Defensive Spy Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Distance travelled while in flight. Like every time you go in the air while cloaked, it starts a counter and once you travel say 20m THEN you uncloak. Last edited by Epidemicke; 12-03-2009 at 07:51 PM.

12-03-2009, 09:16 PM	#10
Epidemicke Join Date: Dec 2009 Class/Position: Defensive Spy Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well yeah, and I don't have any problem with this often, but one of my tactics is to get behind the enemy line then pick them off one by one (seeing as they'd be totally distracted, dealing with my team and all)

12-03-2009, 10:10 PM	#11
GenghisTron AKA LittleAndroidMan D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dystopia Class/Position: Demo/Medic Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [TALOS] [SR] Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	Don't rely on cloak so much. __________________ The Catacombs Steam Last.fm

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