The "What Do You Drive?" Thread - Page 4

Innoc · 08-27-2007, 11:10 PM

He's talking about the High Mileage filters which are often more expensive. Do some research and you will likely find that Fram Oil filters are mediocre at best as filters go. The typical design problems with Fram filters are that they have a low filter surface area as compared with the same size filter from other manufacturers and tend to be restrictive due to their low surface area. There are performance symptoms that follow that particular issue. Because of the low filter surface area you also see early failure of the filters. Also, the anti-drainback valves in the filter are notorious for leaking which allows dirty oil direct access to the drain pan. I could go on....

zSilver_Fox · 08-28-2007, 01:32 AM

I havn't had, seen, or heard of any issues with FRAM filters. However, I change my oil every 2k miles, and paying for AC Delco or Motocraft filters @ $10 a pop is a bit too much for me.

Innoc · 08-28-2007, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox

I havn't had, seen, or heard of any issues with FRAM filters. However, I change my oil every 2k miles, and paying for AC Delco or Motocraft filters @ $10 a pop is a bit too much for me.

Unless you're driving in extreme conditions 2,000 miles is far too short and a waste of oil and money.

Fram was good (never great) many years ago but has since let their quality control slip dramatically and have sought out cheaper designs. You will find TSB's from Ford and other manufacturers that specifically call for the tech to verify the brand of oil filter as a possible problem with things like valve train noise at startup. While they do not mention Fram by name (probably to prevent legal issues) in the bulletin ask any Ford mechanic with longevity in the business and they'll tell you what filters are typically to blame.

zSilver_Fox · 08-28-2007, 02:48 AM

It only costs me $15 with a good filter (I'm running an AC Delco PF2 on her right now), so I'm willing to keep the oil nice and fresh as long as possible. I know that it's an entirely different thing, but I know motocross racers who chagne their gearbox oil after every two races.

I'll probably just stick with AC Delco for now (easiest for me to get).

Anthraxium[WU] · 08-28-2007, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by groovyf

Hyundai Coupé (or Tiburon for our US friends)

Hey, I'm from the US and I drive a Tiburon.

WHOA!

but mines black, and an 03.

Johnny Mullet · 08-29-2007, 02:53 AM

Check out my ride! 1971 Dodge Demon

Super 225 Slant 6
"Three on the Tree" manual
No power steering
No power brakes
Radio delete
Carpet delete

Car still needs some minor body work and paint, but mechanically sound. Here's pics..................................

punkrockrocks · 08-29-2007, 04:41 AM

those burritos be checkin' out your ride, mang.

Nuk3m · 08-29-2007, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by punkrockrocks

those burritos be checkin' out your ride, mang.

thats nice, i think the burritos are called mexicans.

A drunken retard · 08-29-2007, 09:44 AM

Recently I got this car

In tan, 1995.

FrenchToast · 08-29-2007, 12:03 PM

Well I drive my mom's Toyota Camry (manual transmission) when nobody else is using it, but right now I'm saving up for this:

http://www.motorcycleconnect.com/Kaw...nja_250R_1.jpg

I'll be able to afford that plus insurance/license/jacket/helmet by early next Summer and put in a full riding season next year. Booya.

BinaryLife · 08-29-2007, 12:12 PM

I gotta say, I'm not a fan of the crotch rockets. They look like a lot of fun. But personally, if I were ever going to get any kind of bike I'd want a chopper.

...of course I'm 5'6" so riding a chopper would look interesting to say the least.

Innoc · 08-29-2007, 01:35 PM

A suggestion if you're interested FT. Start with a used bike not a new one. For nearly every person starting to ride it's not a matter of if but when you will dump the bike. If it's used it's not going to bug you nearly as much. Get experience and then go for new.

Tennovan · 08-29-2007, 04:13 PM

Nice FT, I've been looking at a Yamaha V Star 1300 or a Warrior, something like these...

V Star: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photos/1008-1-h.jpg
Warrior: http://www.mcnews.com.au/Wallpaper/Y...r_RHS_1024.jpg

Rider_55 · 08-29-2007, 07:17 PM

No matter what type of bike you want you need to ride it or one just like it before you spend the money. I have ridden for a long time everything from motorcross to Harley's and some of the bikes I have riddend I wouldn't ride regularly if you gave them to me. Test ride a bike like you will ride it most frequently be that on long open road trips, around town, or on the track. I have seen lots of friends spend a ton of money (usually on liter sport bikes) that just sit in the garage because they don't fit their owner very well.
<-----My daily commuter '01 Suzuki SV 650.

FrenchToast · 08-30-2007, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoc

A suggestion if you're interested FT. Start with a used bike not a new one. For nearly every person starting to ride it's not a matter of if but when you will dump the bike. If it's used it's not going to bug you nearly as much. Get experience and then go for new.

Yeah, but I'm also not interested in buying something that'll accelerate so fast that I die, so I'm going for a 250, 500 cc max for my first one. Unfortunately, I've not had much luck finding a 250cc sportbike used, as they get eaten up fast for the reasons you mentioned. So honestly, I'm not too worried about buying new.

Innoc · 08-30-2007, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast

Yeah, but I'm also not interested in buying something that'll accelerate so fast that I die, so I'm going for a 250, 500 cc max for my first one. Unfortunately, I've not had much luck finding a 250cc sportbike used, as they get eaten up fast for the reasons you mentioned. So honestly, I'm not too worried about buying new.

Smart move going with a smaller engine to start.

FrenchToast · 08-30-2007, 03:50 AM

Yeah, my uncle said go for 600, but I talked to a bunch of guys who all convinced me I'd die if I did. Plus smaller engine = cheaper insurance. Booya.

Bubbles · 08-30-2007, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A drunken retard

Recently I got this car

In tan, 1995.

I thought you were 12?

Nuk3m · 08-30-2007, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrenchToast

Yeah, my uncle said go for 600, but I talked to a bunch of guys who all convinced me I'd die if I did. Plus smaller engine = cheaper insurance. Booya.

FT new sig!

FrenchToast · 08-30-2007, 03:23 PM

I'm on it.

/runs to General Discussion

08-27-2007, 11:10 PM	#61
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	He's talking about the High Mileage filters which are often more expensive. Do some research and you will likely find that Fram Oil filters are mediocre at best as filters go. The typical design problems with Fram filters are that they have a low filter surface area as compared with the same size filter from other manufacturers and tend to be restrictive due to their low surface area. There are performance symptoms that follow that particular issue. Because of the low filter surface area you also see early failure of the filters. Also, the anti-drainback valves in the filter are notorious for leaking which allows dirty oil direct access to the drain pan. I could go on.... __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

08-28-2007, 01:32 AM	#62
zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I havn't had, seen, or heard of any issues with FRAM filters. However, I change my oil every 2k miles, and paying for AC Delco or Motocraft filters @ $10 a pop is a bit too much for me. __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

08-28-2007, 02:48 AM	#64
zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It only costs me $15 with a good filter (I'm running an AC Delco PF2 on her right now), so I'm willing to keep the oil nice and fresh as long as possible. I know that it's an entirely different thing, but I know motocross racers who chagne their gearbox oil after every two races. I'll probably just stick with AC Delco for now (easiest for me to get). __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

08-29-2007, 04:41 AM	#67
punkrockrocks When patch will out? Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	those burritos be checkin' out your ride, mang. __________________ MAKE MORE ESCAPE MAPS Ingame: punkrock Idle and support #nozoom, #ff.pickup

08-29-2007, 12:03 PM	#70
FrenchToast The 1337est D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Omagosh Canada. Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Well I drive my mom's Toyota Camry (manual transmission) when nobody else is using it, but right now I'm saving up for this: http://www.motorcycleconnect.com/Kaw...nja_250R_1.jpg I'll be able to afford that plus insurance/license/jacket/helmet by early next Summer and put in a full riding season next year. Booya. __________________ James, while John had had 'had', had had 'had had' ; 'had had' had had a better effect on the teacher.

08-29-2007, 02:53 AM	#66
Johnny Mullet Fear the Mullet! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ashtabula, Ohio Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Check out my ride! 1971 Dodge Demon Super 225 Slant 6 "Three on the Tree" manual No power steering No power brakes Radio delete Carpet delete Car still needs some minor body work and paint, but mechanically sound. Here's pics..................................

08-29-2007, 09:44 AM	#69
A drunken retard Rifle Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Recently I got this car In tan, 1995.

08-29-2007, 12:12 PM	#71
BinaryLife Posts: 1 bajillion D&A Member Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	I gotta say, I'm not a fan of the crotch rockets. They look like a lot of fun. But personally, if I were ever going to get any kind of bike I'd want a chopper. ...of course I'm 5'6" so riding a chopper would look interesting to say the least.

08-29-2007, 01:35 PM	#72
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	A suggestion if you're interested FT. Start with a used bike not a new one. For nearly every person starting to ride it's not a matter of if but when you will dump the bike. If it's used it's not going to bug you nearly as much. Get experience and then go for new. __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

08-29-2007, 04:13 PM	#73
Tennovan The one and only Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Nice FT, I've been looking at a Yamaha V Star 1300 or a Warrior, something like these... V Star: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photos/1008-1-h.jpg Warrior: http://www.mcnews.com.au/Wallpaper/Y...r_RHS_1024.jpg

08-29-2007, 07:17 PM	#74
Rider_55 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Motorcycle Advice No matter what type of bike you want you need to ride it or one just like it before you spend the money. I have ridden for a long time everything from motorcross to Harley's and some of the bikes I have riddend I wouldn't ride regularly if you gave them to me. Test ride a bike like you will ride it most frequently be that on long open road trips, around town, or on the track. I have seen lots of friends spend a ton of money (usually on liter sport bikes) that just sit in the garage because they don't fit their owner very well. <-----My daily commuter '01 Suzuki SV 650.

08-30-2007, 03:50 AM	#77
FrenchToast The 1337est D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Omagosh Canada. Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Yeah, my uncle said go for 600, but I talked to a bunch of guys who all convinced me I'd die if I did. Plus smaller engine = cheaper insurance. Booya. __________________ James, while John had had 'had', had had 'had had' ; 'had had' had had a better effect on the teacher.

08-30-2007, 03:23 PM	#80
FrenchToast The 1337est D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Omagosh Canada. Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I'm on it. /runs to General Discussion __________________ James, while John had had 'had', had had 'had had' ; 'had had' had had a better effect on the teacher.

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