Game Achievements

Scuzzy · 10-24-2009, 12:04 PM

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Bridget · 10-24-2009, 03:50 PM

If lack of humor were an achievement, this video ... ugh. Achievements can be fun, but it depends on how they work. If the system requires you do monotonous or overly difficult tasks for a specific item or to 'better' yourself, then I think that's bullshit. Achievements should be optional and for nothing but bragging rights, which leads me to my next point: Achievements that are optional and for bragging rights should be extremely difficult, so there's an actual reason to brag. They should be fun to obtain, and require hard work, and when I say hard work, I don't mean grinding. Like, a task that requires you to multi task properly and defeat a boss, but not defeating five trivial little bosses that require no multi task or train of thought in a row.

reaper18 · 10-24-2009, 07:15 PM

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Everything · 10-24-2009, 07:25 PM

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Bridget · 10-24-2009, 07:26 PM

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Etzell · 10-24-2009, 10:55 PM

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YomMamasHouse · 10-25-2009, 01:02 AM

I agree wholeheartedly Scuzzy, ever since the fateful day when I realized Valve gave achievements for beating each chapter of their new Half-life 2 games I realized that achievements were a sham.

EDIT I don't want to rip on achievements as a whole, but beating the game is part of the game, if they could give them out for superhuman feats I might understand, but for the love of all that is good, not for beating the game on easy... really.

Backstaber · 10-25-2009, 01:14 AM

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Iggy · 10-25-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by YomMamasHouse

I agree wholeheartedly Scuzzy, ever since the fateful day when I realized Valve gave achievements for beating each chapter of their new Half-life 2 games I realized that achievements were a sham.

EDIT I don't want to rip on achievements as a whole, but beating the game is part of the game, if they could give them out for superhuman feats I might understand, but for the love of all that is good, not for beating the game on easy... really.

You know, this is one reason I'm a huge fan of old-school games.... they had no end, and the replay factor was/is huge. You play it because you enjoy it, not because you can "beat it". My Atari 7800 gets a nice workout... although the controller can be a pain in the hand. I much prefer the original joystick design... it just needs that extra button for the 7800.

Credge · 10-25-2009, 08:55 AM

Well, I'll put it like this.

I've never gone back and done all of the achievements of games I did not enjoy. Period. However, games that I do enjoy playing generally have me playing them. There is no difference there.

The difference is that an achievement gives me more things to do when replaying a game.

In other words, if a game isn't fun then the achievements aren't fun.

Also, completion achievements are for developers, not the player. They use them to gauge when people may have stopped playing a game, how long they played, how many players played a certain game mode, etc.

There ARE some actual games where achievements are fun. Prince of Persia had some of the best achievements that extended a rather short game while having the achievements feel like naturally playing the game.

Some games do them right. Others do not.

Lost · 10-25-2009, 02:29 PM

Yeah, some achievements in Warcrack are entertaining, especially the type that require you to actually put forth effort to attain, usually dungeon associated. The achievements in Fallout 3 are generally just "Hey, congrats, you actually did something!" much like the stuff on Steam.

Dr.Satan · 10-25-2009, 05:19 PM

I liked that, although I love foamy so yeah nice one Scuzzy

Anshinritsumai · 10-25-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost

Yeah, some achievements in Warcrack are entertaining, especially the type that require you to actually put forth effort to attain, usually dungeon associated. The achievements in Fallout 3 are generally just "Hey, congrats, you actually did something!" much like the stuff on Steam.

IMO, the achievements in WoW are pretty well thought out and rewarding.

Sure, there's a few here and there that are just handed out like pie; but for the majority of them, your actually required to put some sort of effort towards.

Etzell · 10-25-2009, 09:46 PM

I mean, honestly, the people who are cranky about achievements should just ignore them. It's not exactly difficult. If you're pissed about how easy they are to get, why? It's free points. If the points are worthless to you, then why bitch about them? If you're pissed about feeling the need to get all of them... perhaps you should get a life. If you get pissed about people on the internet "getting in your face about it", you should probably get off the internet and go back to preschool.
If you like the game enough, you'll get the achievements for them. Good for you.

Skanky Butterpuss · 10-26-2009, 07:48 AM

Credge summed up my feelings pretty well.

GG Credge

BinaryLife · 10-27-2009, 03:47 AM

Achievements should be something worth showing off. Like kills streaks, hard shots or cool happenings. Things that you don't need to do to play and enjoy the game, but at least recognize that you did something cool.

I don't like obnoxiously impossible achievements that are really rewarding the lack of a social life and I also do not like stupid achievements that you would have to get through in order to play the game. Like beating a boss. Congratulations! You didn't die!

Backstaber · 10-27-2009, 03:54 AM

Lost · 10-27-2009, 12:53 PM

Shit, I've had that feeling lately. Can't wait till the end of this term.

reaper18 · 10-27-2009, 09:31 PM

GeoKill-----> · 10-28-2009, 06:05 AM

That is not funny :/

10-24-2009, 07:26 PM	#5
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10-25-2009, 01:02 AM	#7
YomMamasHouse Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Your Mom's House Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	I agree wholeheartedly Scuzzy, ever since the fateful day when I realized Valve gave achievements for beating each chapter of their new Half-life 2 games I realized that achievements were a sham. EDIT I don't want to rip on achievements as a whole, but beating the game is part of the game, if they could give them out for superhuman feats I might understand, but for the love of all that is good, not for beating the game on easy... really. Last edited by YomMamasHouse; 10-25-2009 at 01:03 AM.

10-25-2009, 08:55 AM	#10
Credge FF Loremaster Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	Well, I'll put it like this. I've never gone back and done all of the achievements of games I did not enjoy. Period. However, games that I do enjoy playing generally have me playing them. There is no difference there. The difference is that an achievement gives me more things to do when replaying a game. In other words, if a game isn't fun then the achievements aren't fun. Also, completion achievements are for developers, not the player. They use them to gauge when people may have stopped playing a game, how long they played, how many players played a certain game mode, etc. There ARE some actual games where achievements are fun. Prince of Persia had some of the best achievements that extended a rather short game while having the achievements feel like naturally playing the game. Some games do them right. Others do not. __________________ "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan

10-25-2009, 02:29 PM	#11
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Yeah, some achievements in Warcrack are entertaining, especially the type that require you to actually put forth effort to attain, usually dungeon associated. The achievements in Fallout 3 are generally just "Hey, congrats, you actually did something!" much like the stuff on Steam. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

10-25-2009, 05:19 PM	#12
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10-24-2009, 03:50 PM	#2
Bridget Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: AVD Affiliations: TALOS Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	If lack of humor were an achievement, this video ... ugh. Achievements can be fun, but it depends on how they work. If the system requires you do monotonous or overly difficult tasks for a specific item or to 'better' yourself, then I think that's bullshit. Achievements should be optional and for nothing but bragging rights, which leads me to my next point: Achievements that are optional and for bragging rights should be extremely difficult, so there's an actual reason to brag. They should be fun to obtain, and require hard work, and when I say hard work, I don't mean grinding. Like, a task that requires you to multi task properly and defeat a boss, but not defeating five trivial little bosses that require no multi task or train of thought in a row.

10-24-2009, 07:15 PM	#3
reaper18 sKeeD D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Class/Position: Scout, Demo, Solly Gametype: Any Posts Rated Helpful 21 Times	Achievement Unlocked! - tl:dr

10-24-2009, 07:25 PM	#4
Everything This is still alive? Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Naples, FL Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Achievement Unlocked! -Ate an apple

10-24-2009, 10:55 PM	#6
Etzell D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Achievement Unlocked - Finding Foamy Funny (Delusion)

10-25-2009, 01:14 AM	#8
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10-25-2009, 09:46 PM	#14
Etzell D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I mean, honestly, the people who are cranky about achievements should just ignore them. It's not exactly difficult. If you're pissed about how easy they are to get, why? It's free points. If the points are worthless to you, then why bitch about them? If you're pissed about feeling the need to get all of them... perhaps you should get a life. If you get pissed about people on the internet "getting in your face about it", you should probably get off the internet and go back to preschool. If you like the game enough, you'll get the achievements for them. Good for you.

10-26-2009, 07:48 AM	#15
Skanky Butterpuss Beware the Hammer D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Sabotaging your shit. Affiliations: :}\|, mimic, /KBN/ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Credge summed up my feelings pretty well. GG Credge __________________ Support FF: Etzell: Skanky Etzell: The Wings are fucking fantastic Etzell: They really are Etzell: But even SAYING that makes me want to vomit

10-27-2009, 03:47 AM	#16
BinaryLife Posts: 1 bajillion D&A Member Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	Achievements should be something worth showing off. Like kills streaks, hard shots or cool happenings. Things that you don't need to do to play and enjoy the game, but at least recognize that you did something cool. I don't like obnoxiously impossible achievements that are really rewarding the lack of a social life and I also do not like stupid achievements that you would have to get through in order to play the game. Like beating a boss. Congratulations! You didn't die!

10-27-2009, 03:54 AM	#17
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10-27-2009, 12:53 PM	#18
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Shit, I've had that feeling lately. Can't wait till the end of this term. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

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10-28-2009, 06:05 AM	#20
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