Help with Soldiers

FappyFap · 01-02-2011, 11:10 PM

Hi guys. I started playing FF again, and I think I'm getting better. But there's always one problem.
Soldiers.
Yeah um, any ideas on how to beat soldier? And how to play him too?

Iggy · 01-02-2011, 11:43 PM

I'm assuming here that you don't play TFC. The Solly in FF is very similar to that one.

Depending on the class you are fighting, you'll need to lead them differently. The faster they are, the more you have to lead them(with rockets).

Personally, I like to use the splash affect to bounce them around, then switch to the shotgun(right click) to dish out some damage. Right click quick switches between the weapons(super shotgun/rocket launcher), rather than reload. Reload is automatic.

The nail grenade is not very usefull, although what we're working on in the Beta, is. Depending on the range of your target, a frag nade comes in handy while you are bouncing them around.

GenghisTron · 01-03-2011, 12:20 AM

He's asking how to beat Soldiers, Iggy.

Also, OP, what class are you trying to do it with? Some more details would allow us to better help you.

FappyFap · 01-03-2011, 01:18 AM

I usually play Pyro, medic, soldier, and occasionally Heavy.

Iggy · 01-03-2011, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FappyFap

And how to play him too?

Raynian · 01-03-2011, 02:34 AM

Try to make him waste his rockets before committing to fighting or running past him. He's only got four and they reload really slowly.

Dodge in and out of his effective weapon ranges. If he switches to his shotty, scoot in a little bit and you might be able to run past or do a lot of damage as a heavy (or even a medic). Once he pulls out the rocket launcher, back off a bit.

Use terrain to your advantage.

**Elmo** · 01-03-2011, 10:23 AM

yup best thing is to count the rockets and run past when he's out of them. Medic usually takes a good grenade and a few direct shots to kill him from full health. But you have to dance around his rockets till he's out - some people just literally throw their rockets away and use shotgun as a last resort.

Thus similarly when you're a soldier its always good to try and keep a rocket back if you can. Do a lot of switching between shotty and rpg. A few shots with the shotty and quick change to a rocket and back again. Don't be too tempted to throw all the rockets away unless you're low on health n won't survive much longer. Don't be afraid of losing some health in order to get some more direct hits with the rockets.

Not sure that makes sense. I'm dancing around the same two points.. but I just woke up.

episkopos · 01-03-2011, 01:41 PM

I've always had trouble with soldiers, with their high armour and huge splash area with no damage falloff. A good soldier can almost totally lock down an area.

I'd advise doing what Raynian and Elmo suggest. Concs can help a lot, and having a teammate (preferably a medic) distract the solly while you slip past might work too. Remember this is a team game. :P

**Elmo** · 01-03-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by episkopos

I'd advise doing what Raynian and Elmo suggest. Concs can help a lot, and having a teammate (preferably a medic) distract the solly while you slip past might work too. Remember this is a team game. :P

Concs can help a lot depending on the skill level of solly - unless you meant concing past, I guess you meant throwing them. As for the rest of that quote - a very good point, it's the way you get to fr most of the time

(let someone else take the fall!)

My grammatical ability went to shit for the last two posts. I do apologise.

zE · 01-03-2011, 06:16 PM

Soldier is the most Overpowered class not much you can do to kill a decent soldier when you play offie tbh : p -just try to pass trought instead dm

01-02-2011, 11:10 PM	#1
FappyFap Join Date: Aug 2010 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Help with Soldiers Hi guys. I started playing FF again, and I think I'm getting better. But there's always one problem. Soldiers. Yeah um, any ideas on how to beat soldier? And how to play him too?

01-03-2011, 12:20 AM	#3
GenghisTron AKA LittleAndroidMan D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dystopia Class/Position: Demo/Medic Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [TALOS] [SR] Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	He's asking how to beat Soldiers, Iggy. Also, OP, what class are you trying to do it with? Some more details would allow us to better help you. __________________ The Catacombs Steam Last.fm

01-03-2011, 02:34 AM	#6
Raynian D&A Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ruining #pickups Class/Position: SPAWN CAMPING OH NO Gametype: Ragequitting Affiliations: [PMS]. [Shiney] Posts Rated Helpful 26 Times	Try to make him waste his rockets before committing to fighting or running past him. He's only got four and they reload really slowly. Dodge in and out of his effective weapon ranges. If he switches to his shotty, scoot in a little bit and you might be able to run past or do a lot of damage as a heavy (or even a medic). Once he pulls out the rocket launcher, back off a bit. Use terrain to your advantage. __________________ 7:00 PM - zE: eh tbh i like some stuff in us but a lot of stuff in us messes with my nerves 7:00 PM - zE: like watching fox news 7:00 PM - zE: its like wtf

01-03-2011, 10:23 AM	#7
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	yup best thing is to count the rockets and run past when he's out of them. Medic usually takes a good grenade and a few direct shots to kill him from full health. But you have to dance around his rockets till he's out - some people just literally throw their rockets away and use shotgun as a last resort. Thus similarly when you're a soldier its always good to try and keep a rocket back if you can. Do a lot of switching between shotty and rpg. A few shots with the shotty and quick change to a rocket and back again. Don't be too tempted to throw all the rockets away unless you're low on health n won't survive much longer. Don't be afraid of losing some health in order to get some more direct hits with the rockets. Not sure that makes sense. I'm dancing around the same two points.. but I just woke up. __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

01-03-2011, 01:18 AM	#4
FappyFap Join Date: Aug 2010 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I usually play Pyro, medic, soldier, and occasionally Heavy.

01-03-2011, 01:41 PM	#8
episkopos D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jun 2010 Class/Position: anything but Sniper and Spy Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	I've always had trouble with soldiers, with their high armour and huge splash area with no damage falloff. A good soldier can almost totally lock down an area. I'd advise doing what Raynian and Elmo suggest. Concs can help a lot, and having a teammate (preferably a medic) distract the solly while you slip past might work too. Remember this is a team game. :P

01-03-2011, 06:16 PM	#10
zE Pew pew ze beams Join Date: Jan 2008 Gametype: Gathers Affiliations: pew pew Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	Soldier is the most Overpowered class not much you can do to kill a decent soldier when you play offie tbh : p -just try to pass trought instead dm

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