Dev. Journal: Crazycarl (2008-09-22)

FF_Team · 09-23-2008, 12:53 AM

Well, now that 2.1 is wrapped up, we're already thinking about the next patch. And the next one, and the next one...

I used to hate collaborating or fixing other people's maps. I'm kind of particular about mapping, so when I look at a map file and something's not the way I like, I have to fix it. But since joining FF, working on other people's levels is a big part of what I'm doing. Maybe it's the fun of getting to play with the official levels, or learning from the techniques of the skilled mappers that worked in FF before, but I'd rather do that than build my own maps.

In 2.1 my main project was Dustbowl and the HDR update. Now I'm taking on ff_palermo. The number one complaint on that map is the extreme yellow lighting. So changing that was the first task. Once you change the sunlight, sky and fog to something more appropriate, the difference is pretty striking.

Once I have a map open I can never change just one thing, so I went through to change whatever architecture I didn't like. There are some changes to textures and geometry, and I even made a few new models to add detail to the level.

But it's not just aesthetic changes. Every map has a list of bugs and improvements that people want, so I considered each one. For example, all the beta testers complained that defenders spawn too far from the point they are trying to defend, so I moved those spawn points up a bit. I think it's hard to tell exactly what effect such a change will have on the balance of a map, so I'll submit it for a beta test and see what happens!

**squeek.** · 09-23-2008, 01:10 AM

Shadow00Caster · 09-23-2008, 02:57 AM

wet pants

pF · 09-23-2008, 03:41 AM

Yeah.. nigh time palermo got a makeover

KubeDawg · 09-23-2008, 04:06 AM

After testing this for not even half an hour, I'm in awe of how you've actually made palermo sexy! It's simply amazing, and I cannot wait till it's finished. The new textures and architecture make it feel very realistic.

Hawk Eye · 09-23-2008, 05:01 PM

Hot damn. I do believe that is what the kids these days call "the sex."

Gwarsbane · 09-24-2008, 02:12 PM

ya thats one heck of an improvement. I can't wait to see what the rest of the map looks like with better lighting.

trepid_jon · 09-24-2008, 06:01 PM

Let's get out of here and go buttscrew? Or play palermo...yeah, that might work out better.

[AE] 82694 · 09-24-2008, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trepid_jon

Let's get out of here and go buttscrew? Or play palermo...yeah, that might work out better.

Your server/place or mine?

09-23-2008, 12:53 AM	#1
FF_Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Nov 1999 Posts Rated Helpful 71 Times	Dev. Journal: Crazycarl (2008-09-22) Well, now that 2.1 is wrapped up, we're already thinking about the next patch. And the next one, and the next one... I used to hate collaborating or fixing other people's maps. I'm kind of particular about mapping, so when I look at a map file and something's not the way I like, I have to fix it. But since joining FF, working on other people's levels is a big part of what I'm doing. Maybe it's the fun of getting to play with the official levels, or learning from the techniques of the skilled mappers that worked in FF before, but I'd rather do that than build my own maps. In 2.1 my main project was Dustbowl and the HDR update. Now I'm taking on ff_palermo. The number one complaint on that map is the extreme yellow lighting. So changing that was the first task. Once you change the sunlight, sky and fog to something more appropriate, the difference is pretty striking. Once I have a map open I can never change just one thing, so I went through to change whatever architecture I didn't like. There are some changes to textures and geometry, and I even made a few new models to add detail to the level. But it's not just aesthetic changes. Every map has a list of bugs and improvements that people want, so I considered each one. For example, all the beta testers complained that defenders spawn too far from the point they are trying to defend, so I moved those spawn points up a bit. I think it's hard to tell exactly what effect such a change will have on the balance of a map, so I'll submit it for a beta test and see what happens!

09-23-2008, 01:10 AM	#2
squeek. Stuff Do-er Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait) Affiliations: Mustache Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times	__________________ #FF.Pickup ¤ Fortress-Forever pickups My Non-official Maps Released FF_DM_Squeek - FF_2Mesa3_Classic - FF_Siege_Classic Beta FF_Myth - FF_Redlight_Greenlight Sick of the people on the internet, always moanin'. They just moan. - Karl Pilkington

09-23-2008, 03:41 AM	#4
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Yeah.. nigh time palermo got a makeover __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

09-23-2008, 04:06 AM	#5
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	After testing this for not even half an hour, I'm in awe of how you've actually made palermo sexy! It's simply amazing, and I cannot wait till it's finished. The new textures and architecture make it feel very realistic. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

09-24-2008, 06:01 PM	#8
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	Let's get out of here and go buttscrew? Or play palermo...yeah, that might work out better. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

09-23-2008, 02:57 AM	#3
Shadow00Caster Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jul 2007 Class/Position: D Eng Gametype: Griefing/Spawn Camping Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	wet pants

09-23-2008, 05:01 PM	#6
Hawk Eye Who the fuck is this guy? D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O Preferred Gametype: AvD Affiliations: [AE] Asseaters Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Hot damn. I do believe that is what the kids these days call "the sex."

09-24-2008, 02:12 PM	#7
Gwarsbane Slayer of humans D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mostly on earth though in some alt dimensions Class/Position: I'm an Offensive Defensive person Gametype: Fortress Forever Affiliations: I'm a merc, only thing that talks is money Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	ya thats one heck of an improvement. I can't wait to see what the rest of the map looks like with better lighting.

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