How to Make FF Maps - Page 3

szorg · 09-18-2007, 07:13 PM

Forgive me for asking, I'm new to mapping in general, though I did make a few for TFC.

I'm making a push-style map. I have two questions:

One: in the lua, should I have IncludeScript("base_push"); instead of base_ctf?

Two: How to I make a "ball" for both teams, instead of colored flags?

Edit: Nevermind, I found everything here: http://www.sgware.be/?p=tutorials&cat=8

punkrockrocks · 09-19-2007, 11:22 PM

Sheesh, I have been having a huge problem with this for the first few days. My map just would'nt compile. It kept giving me "registry is in use" errors. I tried refreshing SDK content, restarting my computer multiple times, remaking the FF cfg a bunch of times, nothing worked.

After reading Donny's posts, I learned that my problem was that I was copying and pasting the info from here. Once I tried handpicking the info for myself using browse, it worked (even though after hitting browse and choosing the right folders, the text box showed the same input as what was there when I just copy+pasted).
Kinda wierd. I dunno if there's a typo or something there, but that's how I fixed my problem. Thanks Donny.

Donny · 09-20-2007, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkrockrocks

Sheesh, I have been having a huge problem with this for the first few days. My map just would'nt compile. It kept giving me "registry is in use" errors. I tried refreshing SDK content, restarting my computer multiple times, remaking the FF cfg a bunch of times, nothing worked.

After reading Donny's posts, I learned that my problem was that I was copying and pasting the info from here. Once I tried handpicking the info for myself using browse, it worked (even though after hitting browse and choosing the right folders, the text box showed the same input as what was there when I just copy+pasted).
Kinda wierd. I dunno if there's a typo or something there, but that's how I fixed my problem. Thanks Donny.

Glad to help

Doc.Lulle · 09-23-2007, 10:28 PM

Howto create hunted-style maps:

http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...371#post276371

Desyphur · 10-01-2007, 03:39 PM

How do I make a detpack-able wall?
I need a more basic mapping tut also, as I need to know how to make things curved and such >.<

Ihmhi · 10-23-2007, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imbrifer

Intro: Setting Up Hammer for FF

1. Boot up hammer for another mod (HL2, HL2

M, CS, etc.) and go to Tools -> Options.

2. Click on the 'Game Configurations' tab, and next to the drop-down menu on the right, it should say 'Add'. Click that bad boy, and create a new entry named 'Fortress Forever' or 'FF' or 'Gazelle Pudding' or whatever you want.

3. There should be one .fgd file you need: fortressforever.fgd It should be found in the \Steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\fortressforever\ directory, so navigate there and select it.

4. The 'Default Point Entity' and 'Default Brush Entity' are exactly what they sound like. When you create an entity, this is what it will be by default. You'll probably want the 'Default Point Entity' to either be 'prop_static' or 'info_ff_script'. For the 'Default Solid Entity', go for 'func_detail'.

5. Time to set some directories. The Game Executable Directory should be:
\Steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\fortressforever\
The Mod Directory should be:
\Steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\fortressforever\ff\
The Game Directory should be:
\Steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\fortressforever\
And finally, your RMF directory should be:
\Steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\fortressforever\ff\map s\

6. Hit OK, restart Hammer and you should be good to go for starting your first FF map!

I am having a problem setting up Hammer for FF:

Specifically, I am having a problem with this portion:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imbrifer

5. Time to set some directories. The Game Executable Directory should be:
\Steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\fortressforever\
The Mod Directory should be:
\Steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\fortressforever\ff\
The Game Directory should be:
\Steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\fortressforever\
And finally, your RMF directory should be:
\Steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\fortressforever\ff\map s\

Game Executable Directory, check. Mod Directory... is not there. Game Directory... check. RMF directory... is also not there. It is "VMF" Directory.

Could someone help me figure out what I am doing wrong here? The last time I tried to set up Hammer for FF I had to reset everything. >_<

Mongoose · 10-23-2007, 09:13 AM

are you using the latest hammer? You should be accessing it through Steam, Tools: SDK, Hammer.

Sounds like you are using old hammer for HL1

v3rtigo · 10-23-2007, 09:39 AM

I had to set it up a bit different to work:

Game executable was the Half-life 2 base dir
Mod dir was Sourcemods/Fortress Forever
RMF/VFM was Sourcemods/Fortress Forever/maps

RMF/VFM can be placed anywhere though I think.

Dr.Satan · 10-23-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desyphur

How do I make a detpack-able wall?
I need a more basic mapping tut also, as I need to know how to make things curved and such >.<

I would really like to see this also! Can someone answer him please?

Imhmi check out THIS thread, it's basically the same thread as your God help me one, but i had the same problems and got a lot of help...

KubeDawg · 10-23-2007, 05:58 PM

I think I am going to work on a forever2 remake or a vidar2 remake. How long does it usually take to create a map from start to finish. Only reason I ask is I don't want it to take a freakin year....

Dr.Satan · 10-23-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KubeDawg

I think I am going to work on a forever2 remake or a vidar2 remake. How long does it usually take to create a map from start to finish. Only reason I ask is I don't want it to take a freakin year....

Think that depends on how OCD you are about your work...

Ihmhi · 10-23-2007, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mongoose

are you using the latest hammer? You should be accessing it through Steam, Tools: SDK, Hammer.

Sounds like you are using old hammer for HL1

Yes, I am using the latest version of Hammer AFAIK. I ran it from Source SDK in the Tools menu. This is what I am being shown.

Dr.Satan · 10-23-2007, 07:28 PM

Imhmi, check out that link to the topic I posted above, I had similar issues and public_slots_free walked me thru some things to try and now everything is working. Try that and see if it helps.

KubeDawg · 10-23-2007, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

Think that depends on how OCD you are about your work...

It depends. It switches on and off quite frequently. But when it's on, I'm like superman on speed when it comes to ideas/typing. 150wpm ftw.

Ihmhi · 10-24-2007, 06:07 AM

GambiT gave me this:

Code:

        "Fortress Forever"
        {
            "GameDir"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\SourceMods\FortressForever"
            "hammer"
            {
                "GameData0"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\SourceMods\FortressForever\fortressforever.fgd"
                "TextureFormat"        "5"
                "MapFormat"        "4"
                "DefaultTextureScale"        "0.250000"
                "DefaultLightmapScale"        "16"
                "GameExe"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\c:\program files\steam\steamapps\YOURNAME\source sdk base\hl2.exe"
                "DefaultSolidEntity"        "func_detail"
                "DefaultPointEntity"        "info_ff_teamspawn"
                "BSP"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\YOURNAME\sourcesdk\bin\vbsp.exe"
                "Vis"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\YOURNAME\sourcesdk\bin\vvis.exe"
                "Light"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\YOURNAME\sourcesdk\bin\vrad.exe"
                "GameExeDir"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\c:\program files\steam\steamapps\YOURNAME\source sdk base"
                "MapDir"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\YOURNAME\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc"
                "BSPDir"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\SourceMods\FortressForever\maps"
                "CordonTexture"        "tools\toolsskybox"
                "MaterialExcludeCount"        "0"
            }
        }

Go here, but replace C: with the drive you have Steam installed on and YOURNAME with your Steam name.

C:\program files\steam\steamapps\YOURNAME\sourcesdk\bin\GameC onfig.txt

Find the second } above the words "SDK Version" "2". The bottom of your GameConfig.txt will look something like this (I cut a lot of it off):

Code:

                "MapDir"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\ihmhi\sourcesdk_content\hl2mp\mapsrc"
                "BSPDir"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\ihmhi\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps"
                "CordonTexture"        "tools\toolsskybox"
                "MaterialExcludeCount"        "0"
            }
        }
    }
    "SDKVersion"        "2"
}

Place the cursor where there are three stars (***) added in below, hit Enter to make the text go down a line, and paste all of the text at the start of this post in there.

Code:

                "MapDir"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\ihmhi\sourcesdk_content\hl2mp\mapsrc"
                "BSPDir"        "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\ihmhi\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps"
                "CordonTexture"        "tools\toolsskybox"
                "MaterialExcludeCount"        "0"
            }
        }***
    }
    "SDKVersion"        "2"
}

I did this and Fortress Forever popped right into the box in Source SDK. I did not even have to restart Steam. Thanks GambiT! (:

Dr.Satan · 10-24-2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desyphur

How do I make a detpack-able wall?
I need a more basic mapping tut also, as I need to know how to make things curved and such >.<

does anyone know the answer to this? I have been wondering the same thing and i was hoping someone would answer him so that i know!

Hog · 11-11-2007, 06:53 PM

I have all the appropriate information entered correctly. However, when i go to make an object...i just freeze. When i configure hammer for tf2 i do not have this problem. Any ideas =\. I really want to get into map making and its frustrating running into these sort of nitty gritty errors.

Mongoose · 11-11-2007, 07:00 PM

for detpack wall, just decompile ff_well.

In the lua there is a section, easy to find, called grates...

You just need to look in the well vmf where the grates are and see what they've called the entities (red_grate, red_wall etc).

Put wall in your map, to entity, name it the appropriate name, and include the section of lua in your lua...

Check out snarkpit for tutorials

shadow · 11-11-2007, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog

I have all the appropriate information entered correctly. However, when i go to make an object...i just freeze. When i configure hammer for tf2 i do not have this problem. Any ideas =\. I really want to get into map making and its frustrating running into these sort of nitty gritty errors.

this might be the result of the sdk update that broke ep1 engine stuff.
if so youll need to add -engine ep1 to hammer shortcut and turn off gui model browser in hammer's options to stop crashing.

Hog · 11-11-2007, 07:59 PM

got the gui model part. How might I add the -engine ep1?

09-18-2007, 07:13 PM	#41
szorg Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Forgive me for asking, I'm new to mapping in general, though I did make a few for TFC. I'm making a push-style map. I have two questions: One: in the lua, should I have IncludeScript("base_push"); instead of base_ctf? Two: How to I make a "ball" for both teams, instead of colored flags? Edit: Nevermind, I found everything here: http://www.sgware.be/?p=tutorials&cat=8 Last edited by szorg; 09-18-2007 at 07:30 PM.

09-19-2007, 11:22 PM	#42
punkrockrocks When patch will out? Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sheesh, I have been having a huge problem with this for the first few days. My map just would'nt compile. It kept giving me "registry is in use" errors. I tried refreshing SDK content, restarting my computer multiple times, remaking the FF cfg a bunch of times, nothing worked. After reading Donny's posts, I learned that my problem was that I was copying and pasting the info from here. Once I tried handpicking the info for myself using browse, it worked (even though after hitting browse and choosing the right folders, the text box showed the same input as what was there when I just copy+pasted). Kinda wierd. I dunno if there's a typo or something there, but that's how I fixed my problem. Thanks Donny. __________________ MAKE MORE ESCAPE MAPS Ingame: punkrock Idle and support #nozoom, #ff.pickup

10-01-2007, 03:39 PM	#45
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	How do I make a detpack-able wall? I need a more basic mapping tut also, as I need to know how to make things curved and such >.< __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now. Last edited by Desyphur; 10-01-2007 at 04:12 PM.

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09-23-2007, 10:28 PM	#44
Doc.Lulle I am the Hunted Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Howto create hunted-style maps: http://www.fortress-forever.com/foru...371#post276371

10-23-2007, 09:13 AM	#47
Mongoose Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	are you using the latest hammer? You should be accessing it through Steam, Tools: SDK, Hammer. Sounds like you are using old hammer for HL1

10-23-2007, 09:39 AM	#48
v3rtigo Lock 'n Loll! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 2fort Class/Position: Scout, Spy, Sniper Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I had to set it up a bit different to work: Game executable was the Half-life 2 base dir Mod dir was Sourcemods/Fortress Forever RMF/VFM was Sourcemods/Fortress Forever/maps RMF/VFM can be placed anywhere though I think.

11-11-2007, 06:53 PM	#57
Hog Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	freeze I have all the appropriate information entered correctly. However, when i go to make an object...i just freeze. When i configure hammer for tf2 i do not have this problem. Any ideas =\. I really want to get into map making and its frustrating running into these sort of nitty gritty errors.

11-11-2007, 07:00 PM	#58
Mongoose Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	for detpack wall, just decompile ff_well. In the lua there is a section, easy to find, called grates... You just need to look in the well vmf where the grates are and see what they've called the entities (red_grate, red_wall etc). Put wall in your map, to entity, name it the appropriate name, and include the section of lua in your lua... Check out snarkpit for tutorials

11-11-2007, 07:59 PM	#60
Hog Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	got the gui model part. How might I add the -engine ep1?

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