Obama the Crybaby Liberal

Scuzzy · 03-16-2010, 10:29 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...Democrats.html

Classic, very adult move.

Scuzzy

**squeek.** · 03-16-2010, 11:07 PM

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Change your can believe if, if you're not with him, he's taking his marbles n leavin

Is there a Rosetta Stone program for this language? I'd like to try to learn it.

Scuzzy · 03-16-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by squeek.

Is there a Rosetta Stone program for this language? I'd like to try to learn it.

oN,. the bear has thorns in the totuM.

stray kitten · 03-17-2010, 08:29 PM

Obama is REALLY starting to get on my nerves. Add to that shit like Nancy saying we Need To Pass This Bill So You Can See What's In It.

I mean wut?

Scuzzy · 03-17-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stray kitten

Obama is REALLY starting to get on my nerves. Add to that shit like Nancy saying we Need To Pass This Bill So You Can See What's In It.

I mean wut?

That's the kind of thing people like uBeR like, it's the change they want.

YomMamasHouse · 03-18-2010, 01:02 AM

Id threaten that, Democrats have massive issues with being giant pussies. It is actually their one greatest weakness. You don't toughen people up by coddling them.

Credge · 03-18-2010, 02:57 AM

With how Obama is polling, it's kind of a weak threat. It's kind of like O.J. Simpson threatening to withdraw his endorsement from a local taco joint if they stop selling their Wonder-Taco's.

stray kitten · 03-18-2010, 04:11 PM

We see that but does a Democrat with 10 years in Congress who ONLY cares about keeping his job see that? Which brings me to another issue I have with government. CYA vs actually governing.

BinaryLife · 03-19-2010, 12:38 PM

I also have no problem, with this. They have majority control and still don't pass it. It's like if 20 of my friends lost a fight to 8 other guys. I'd be kinda pissed. (especially cause one of them is a black belt and 6'5") But more to the point....

Personally I think we need health care reform. I am in favor of a new plan entirely. The part where I get fuzzy, is that republicans are denying this plan outright without caring what its results are. In all honesty, they are playing dirty. They openly lie, they cause problems and then complain about them. They remind of my friends sister who would smack her own hand and then cry until his parents would ground him. The democrats should know how to break these cheap, and terrible plans. But either they don't, or they lack the balls to implement them. It's embarrassing. Instead of resolving a problem by logical, intelligent debate between the two parties representation of the american public's opinion and views we have a majority of people who want and need a new health care and a minority of people doing everything they can to stop it from happening.

stray kitten · 03-19-2010, 05:10 PM

This bill is bad, borderline evil. All this BS media talk about the republicans is retarded. They could all walk out and it would not matter. This is all on the democrats. Even a lot of them dems realize it's borderline evil. When it does pass it will be without a single republican vote on it. Whatever plans the republicans are doing is nothing compared to the corruption within the democratic party to get it passed. It amazing actually - the process they are using.

Unless you are talking about the people, who do not want this bill. The government get's its power from the people. We give it to them, and most people do not want a gestapo IRS enforcing compliance with this bill, they have too much power already. Nor do they want 1/6 of our entire economy under the control of Obama.

Republicans want reform too. Some of the same things in the presidents proposal.

BinaryLife · 03-19-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stray kitten

This bill is bad, borderline evil. All this BS media talk about the republicans is retarded. They could all walk out and it would not matter. This is all on the democrats. Even a lot of them dems realize it's borderline evil. When it does pass it will be without a single republican vote on it. Whatever plans the republicans are doing is nothing compared to the corruption within the democratic party to get it passed. It amazing actually - the process they are using.

Unless you are talking about the people, who do not want this bill. The government get's its power from the people. We give it to them, and most people do not want a gestapo IRS enforcing compliance with this bill, they have too much power already. Nor do they want 1/6 of our entire economy under the control of Obama.

Republicans want reform too. Some of the same things in the presidents proposal.

Evil is an interesting choice of words. I actually think calling it socialist has more grounds than evil. Now, I'm sorry if this isn't the thread for my question, but could you explain why it is evil? Perhaps show examples? And of course I would like to point out that I don't agree 100 percent with it, but a government covered plan is the way to go. Not medicare or medicaid though. They are not working so well.

stray kitten · 03-19-2010, 07:44 PM

You think medicaid doesn't work well and you want them to have absolute power over you healh care? Fix medicaide and add the small percentage of Americans that dont have healthcare onto it. Then take another step.

Evil is hard to define. A bad bill being shoved down my throat with cohersion from the power base that is corrupt is close to it.

Evil Examples

YomMamasHouse · 03-19-2010, 08:06 PM

You people can turn anything into a drama. Pretty much every other country in the world has the healthcare Obama is proposing and they are not socialist regimes. Our governments do not have absolute power, they just allocate funds. They aren't allowed to withhold medical care because someone pissed them off.

BinaryLife · 03-20-2010, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stray kitten

You think medicaid doesn't work well and you want them to have absolute power over you healh care? Fix medicaide and add the small percentage of Americans that dont have healthcare onto it. Then take another step.

Evil is hard to define. A bad bill being shoved down my throat with cohersion from the power base that is corrupt is close to it.

Evil Examples

Why don't we call the new bill medicaid will that make you feel better about it? Reform is reform, you can change medicaid to account for its mistakes and then you'd have strong health care reform. The problem with medicaid is that it's old. Sure, a revamping would work, as long as it covered everyone without charging anyone I would be satisfied.

And I asked you to tell me why the bill was evil not what evil was. See, the bill isn't evil. It is an attempt to save the lives and the well being of many Americans who work hard every day for a paycheck but cannot buy health care. I think helping the people who need it isn't evil. Denying these people adequate reform for frivolous reasons is evil in my opinion. But I have no problem pointing out the opinion there. If you can take that bill and show me the parts of the bill that are evil I would be interested in hearing them, and if I can not refute or explain then perhaps I will join your cause in fighting the evil health care bill.

Credge · 03-20-2010, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by YomMamasHouse

Pretty much every other country in the world has the healthcare Obama is proposing and they are not socialist regimes.

That's news to me. Last I checked, the proposed bill would introduce a fairly unique system with very few countries having anything similar to it. Unless the bill has been dramatically changed or the majority of the worlds countries have changed their systems...

Scuzzy · 03-20-2010, 04:56 PM

[quote=BinaryLife;467939]The part where I get fuzzy, is that republicans are denying this plan outright without caring what its results are.[/quotes]

Examples, or rhetoric?

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Originally Posted by BinaryLife

In all honesty, they are playing dirty. They openly lie, they cause problems and then complain about them.

Actually the current situation has been caused by liberal policies, not conservative ones, but I'd be happy to hear how you feel conservatives started the high cost of health care. Which parts of the conservative solution do you disagree with?

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Originally Posted by BinaryLife

we have a majority of people who want and need a new health care and a minority of people doing everything they can to stop it from happening.

People do not need "new health care", the quality of our health care is just fine. The issue that seems to get the most press is the cost of health care and the cost of health care insurance, both of which are easily fixed. Nothing in ObamaCare does either.

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Originally Posted by BinaryLife

It is an attempt to save the lives and the well being of many Americans who work hard every day for a paycheck but cannot buy health care.

No, it is not. It's imposing government controls that will cause them to get poorer health care and drive up the cost.

Tell me this, the "can't deny coverage based on previous medical conditions", do you agree with that idea? Do you believe that someone who's never paid for insurance should be able to buy it once they are sick and have everything paid for?

Scuzzy

Innoc · 03-20-2010, 07:44 PM

Government is never about how to help the people. It's always how to build and expand a powerbase for the government. The healthcare debate isn't about healthcare it's about an attempt to take even greater power and control over a large economic element of the US.

I heard an interesting comment this last week. If full gov't control of health care is such a great thing why not spend more time analyzing the successes and failures in Massachusetts? Or why not try to set up a pilot program that demonstrates the viability and efficacy of the proposed program? Could it be that it's not about healthcare but a grab for power?

My .02...ymmv

YomMamasHouse · 03-20-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoc

Or why not try to set up a pilot program that demonstrates the viability and efficacy of the proposed program? Could it be that it's not about healthcare but a grab for power?

Too likely to work out well and provide insight, not the sort of stuff government likes to pass.

Innoc · 03-20-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by YomMamasHouse

Too likely to work out well and provide insight, not the sort of stuff government likes to pass.

I suspect that a pilot program would demonstrate the inaccuracy and outright fraud that's being used to push this through. The CBO estimates being the latest fraud related to this debacle.

Scuzzy · 03-20-2010, 10:18 PM

Finally an honest democrat talking about reconciliation and what they're doing.

YouTube

Scuzzy

03-16-2010, 10:29 PM	#1
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Obama the Crybaby Liberal http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...Democrats.html Classic, very adult move. Scuzzy __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

03-17-2010, 08:29 PM	#4
stray kitten mjau D&A Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Class/Position: kittens are sneaky, spy Gametype: Capture the mouse Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Obama is REALLY starting to get on my nerves. Add to that shit like Nancy saying we Need To Pass This Bill So You Can See What's In It. I mean wut? __________________ 6 of the 10 richest counties in America now surround Washington D.C. Our "capitol" edged out Silicon Valley as the nation's richest metro area. Reality Distortion Field = 1. Stream the distractions: One percent, hoodies, and kony oh my. Last edited by stray kitten; 03-17-2010 at 08:31 PM.

03-18-2010, 02:57 AM	#7
Credge FF Loremaster Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	With how Obama is polling, it's kind of a weak threat. It's kind of like O.J. Simpson threatening to withdraw his endorsement from a local taco joint if they stop selling their Wonder-Taco's. __________________ "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan

03-18-2010, 04:11 PM	#8
stray kitten mjau D&A Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Class/Position: kittens are sneaky, spy Gametype: Capture the mouse Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	We see that but does a Democrat with 10 years in Congress who ONLY cares about keeping his job see that? Which brings me to another issue I have with government. CYA vs actually governing. __________________ 6 of the 10 richest counties in America now surround Washington D.C. Our "capitol" edged out Silicon Valley as the nation's richest metro area. Reality Distortion Field = 1. Stream the distractions: One percent, hoodies, and kony oh my. Last edited by stray kitten; 03-18-2010 at 04:13 PM.

03-19-2010, 05:10 PM	#10
stray kitten mjau D&A Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Class/Position: kittens are sneaky, spy Gametype: Capture the mouse Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	This bill is bad, borderline evil. All this BS media talk about the republicans is retarded. They could all walk out and it would not matter. This is all on the democrats. Even a lot of them dems realize it's borderline evil. When it does pass it will be without a single republican vote on it. Whatever plans the republicans are doing is nothing compared to the corruption within the democratic party to get it passed. It amazing actually - the process they are using. Unless you are talking about the people, who do not want this bill. The government get's its power from the people. We give it to them, and most people do not want a gestapo IRS enforcing compliance with this bill, they have too much power already. Nor do they want 1/6 of our entire economy under the control of Obama. Republicans want reform too. Some of the same things in the presidents proposal. __________________ 6 of the 10 richest counties in America now surround Washington D.C. Our "capitol" edged out Silicon Valley as the nation's richest metro area. Reality Distortion Field = 1. Stream the distractions: One percent, hoodies, and kony oh my. Last edited by stray kitten; 03-19-2010 at 05:12 PM.

03-18-2010, 01:02 AM	#6
YomMamasHouse Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Your Mom's House Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Id threaten that, Democrats have massive issues with being giant pussies. It is actually their one greatest weakness. You don't toughen people up by coddling them.

03-19-2010, 12:38 PM	#9
BinaryLife Posts: 1 bajillion D&A Member Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	I also have no problem, with this. They have majority control and still don't pass it. It's like if 20 of my friends lost a fight to 8 other guys. I'd be kinda pissed. (especially cause one of them is a black belt and 6'5") But more to the point.... Personally I think we need health care reform. I am in favor of a new plan entirely. The part where I get fuzzy, is that republicans are denying this plan outright without caring what its results are. In all honesty, they are playing dirty. They openly lie, they cause problems and then complain about them. They remind of my friends sister who would smack her own hand and then cry until his parents would ground him. The democrats should know how to break these cheap, and terrible plans. But either they don't, or they lack the balls to implement them. It's embarrassing. Instead of resolving a problem by logical, intelligent debate between the two parties representation of the american public's opinion and views we have a majority of people who want and need a new health care and a minority of people doing everything they can to stop it from happening.

03-19-2010, 07:44 PM	#12
stray kitten mjau D&A Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Class/Position: kittens are sneaky, spy Gametype: Capture the mouse Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	You think medicaid doesn't work well and you want them to have absolute power over you healh care? Fix medicaide and add the small percentage of Americans that dont have healthcare onto it. Then take another step. Evil is hard to define. A bad bill being shoved down my throat with cohersion from the power base that is corrupt is close to it. Evil Examples __________________ 6 of the 10 richest counties in America now surround Washington D.C. Our "capitol" edged out Silicon Valley as the nation's richest metro area. Reality Distortion Field = 1. Stream the distractions: One percent, hoodies, and kony oh my.

03-19-2010, 08:06 PM	#13
YomMamasHouse Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Your Mom's House Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	You people can turn anything into a drama. Pretty much every other country in the world has the healthcare Obama is proposing and they are not socialist regimes. Our governments do not have absolute power, they just allocate funds. They aren't allowed to withhold medical care because someone pissed them off.

03-20-2010, 07:44 PM	#17
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	Government is never about how to help the people. It's always how to build and expand a powerbase for the government. The healthcare debate isn't about healthcare it's about an attempt to take even greater power and control over a large economic element of the US. I heard an interesting comment this last week. If full gov't control of health care is such a great thing why not spend more time analyzing the successes and failures in Massachusetts? Or why not try to set up a pilot program that demonstrates the viability and efficacy of the proposed program? Could it be that it's not about healthcare but a grab for power? My .02...ymmv __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

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