The release process

o_twitch · 02-07-2005, 09:54 PM

This is not meant to be one of those nagging "When is it going to be done?" questions. What I am curious about, however, is what kind of release schedule Fortress Forever is going to follow, ie:

a) Is it going to be released as soon a possible, maybe with only a couple of maps or incomplete classes, with successive updates later adding new maps and material?

or

b) Is it going to be released all at once, waiting for mappers/modelers and so forth to finish their work?

I guess what I'm looking at is whether it's going to be released rough-hewn, or delayed until it can be completely polished.

o_billdoor · 02-07-2005, 10:02 PM

The second option, definitely. We want the game to be accessible to new players as soon as it is released -- most casual gamers won't have the patience to stick with an unfinished game until it becomes playable.

o_antonbear · 02-07-2005, 10:05 PM

i would prefer rough hewn coz then i get to play at least something tfc-esque. plus you feel as though you are helping with improvements if you post a comment like "THE PYRO FLMAE IS CRAP CHANGE IT" and then it actually changes. how cool would you feel!

o_zorro · 02-07-2005, 10:13 PM

id rather play it when its done.. ill just try to learn how to make maps for it till then

o_silver · 02-07-2005, 10:36 PM

i'm sure people will be beta testing, just do the full release when done.

o_twitch · 02-07-2005, 10:37 PM

I must confess I was hoping for the rough-hewn release under the assumption that it would arrive sooner; but on the other hand it seems the modeling and map work is moving alot faster than on other mods, so maybe it will be a non-issue if testing doesn't take too long.

BTW, nice pimphat, Billdoor.

o_lithium · 02-07-2005, 10:51 PM

The fact that each members of the staff has a wide knowledge of tfc since they are all TFC players or were... helps the mod. Since it's "not entirely made from scratch" ( It's not like someone trying to make something original like uh.... midgets with lightsabers vs. frogs with rocket launchers. ). The staff are Ex-Tfcers , they know what they are doing ... unlike some other mods. Anyways... the fact is , it's going to be release when they'll feel it's ready.

schtoofa · 02-07-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by billdoor

The second option, definitely. We want the game to be accessible to new players as soon as it is released -- most casual gamers won't have the patience to stick with an unfinished game until it becomes playable.

I agree with what billdoor wrote

o_sabre · 02-08-2005, 01:53 AM

Hi anton bear!

o_binarylife · 02-08-2005, 01:56 AM

There's always beta testing if it needs to be done. But perhaps not on such a mass scale.

o_rebo · 02-08-2005, 02:05 AM

Its really vital this mod gets a good reception from casual players on its release. A large number of mods get tried once by a casual player, and dumped because it really wasnt in a good released state. We dont want this to happen to FF.

o_sterkarm · 02-08-2005, 03:39 AM

Is there any rough estimate to when FF will be released?

A year? more? less?

Lost · 02-08-2005, 04:26 AM

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midgets with lightsabers vs. frogs with rocket launchers

Wheres this game and where can I get it? If George Lucas had used this idea, the latest batch of Star Warz crap would have been much better.

o_saintrancid-tpf- · 02-08-2005, 04:35 AM

if they release a rough version it would probally hurt the mod more than anything because if you release some buggy POS it will drive away the casual gamer.

Jiggles · 02-08-2005, 05:59 PM

Which is why I'm kind of amazed anyone stuck with CS...

o_sobe green · 02-08-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Which is why I'm kind of amazed anyone stuck with CS...

It was a different time then. Things didn't have to be pretty or fancy. If it was fun people would play it.

o_silver · 02-08-2005, 06:52 PM

also it didn't become REALLY popular till after it got threw alot of the more buggy crap

o_oinker · 02-09-2005, 04:42 AM

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Is there any rough estimate to when FF will be released?

A year? more? less?

I don't mean to be annoying also just was wondering if their was a we hope to have it out by then date i am a long time tfc player and quit it about a year ago after the community pretty much died. not to mention school got in the way of alot of clannin lol.

o_rebo · 02-09-2005, 07:18 AM

The official response from the mod lead, schtoofa is

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I would like very much for FF to be released in 05. We'll see if we can pull it off Smile

I will say, though:

1.) Don't quote me on that!
2.) It's more difficult to predict a release date with our team than it would be for a group of full time employees. It's a difficult (but doable) task to calculate/estimate the number of hours required to complete this modification... that doesn't help, though! With full time employees, you often know how much time each week they can spend on a task / project. We all have lives, full time jobs, or are students... so the time we can each allocate to FF varies week-to-week.

o_antonbear · 02-09-2005, 07:59 AM

heya sabre how you doing these days??

and to keep on topic released in 05 doesnt sound too bad

02-07-2005, 09:54 PM	#1
o_twitch Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The release process This is not meant to be one of those nagging "When is it going to be done?" questions. What I am curious about, however, is what kind of release schedule Fortress Forever is going to follow, ie: a) Is it going to be released as soon a possible, maybe with only a couple of maps or incomplete classes, with successive updates later adding new maps and material? or b) Is it going to be released all at once, waiting for mappers/modelers and so forth to finish their work? I guess what I'm looking at is whether it's going to be released rough-hewn, or delayed until it can be completely polished.

02-07-2005, 10:02 PM	#2
o_billdoor Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The second option, definitely. We want the game to be accessible to new players as soon as it is released -- most casual gamers won't have the patience to stick with an unfinished game until it becomes playable.

02-07-2005, 10:05 PM	#3
o_antonbear Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i would prefer rough hewn coz then i get to play at least something tfc-esque. plus you feel as though you are helping with improvements if you post a comment like "THE PYRO FLMAE IS CRAP CHANGE IT" and then it actually changes. how cool would you feel!

02-07-2005, 10:13 PM	#4
o_zorro Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	id rather play it when its done.. ill just try to learn how to make maps for it till then

02-07-2005, 10:36 PM	#5
o_silver Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i'm sure people will be beta testing, just do the full release when done.

02-07-2005, 10:37 PM	#6
o_twitch Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I must confess I was hoping for the rough-hewn release under the assumption that it would arrive sooner; but on the other hand it seems the modeling and map work is moving alot faster than on other mods, so maybe it will be a non-issue if testing doesn't take too long. BTW, nice pimphat, Billdoor.

02-07-2005, 10:51 PM	#7
o_lithium Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The fact that each members of the staff has a wide knowledge of tfc since they are all TFC players or were... helps the mod. Since it's "not entirely made from scratch" ( It's not like someone trying to make something original like uh.... midgets with lightsabers vs. frogs with rocket launchers. ). The staff are Ex-Tfcers , they know what they are doing ... unlike some other mods. Anyways... the fact is , it's going to be release when they'll feel it's ready.

02-08-2005, 01:53 AM	#9
o_sabre Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manchester, Uk Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hi anton bear!

02-08-2005, 01:56 AM	#10
o_binarylife Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	There's always beta testing if it needs to be done. But perhaps not on such a mass scale.

02-08-2005, 02:05 AM	#11
o_rebo Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Its really vital this mod gets a good reception from casual players on its release. A large number of mods get tried once by a casual player, and dumped because it really wasnt in a good released state. We dont want this to happen to FF.

02-08-2005, 03:39 AM	#12
o_sterkarm Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Is there any rough estimate to when FF will be released? A year? more? less?

02-08-2005, 04:35 AM	#14
o_saintrancid-tpf- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	if they release a rough version it would probally hurt the mod more than anything because if you release some buggy POS it will drive away the casual gamer.

02-08-2005, 05:59 PM	#15
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Which is why I'm kind of amazed anyone stuck with CS...

02-08-2005, 06:52 PM	#17
o_silver Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	also it didn't become REALLY popular till after it got threw alot of the more buggy crap

02-09-2005, 07:59 AM	#20
o_antonbear Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	heya sabre how you doing these days?? and to keep on topic released in 05 doesnt sound too bad

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