Concerned about Double Jumping

[o_tal-n]

Having seen the video I have to say things are looking good except one thing concerns me.

Double Jumping.

Not. A. Good. Idea.

The reason is that bunny hopping is one of the most ugly looking and annoying parts of deathmatch, team fortress or any FPS online game I can think of. Allowing people to jump even higher and further is just wrong on so many levels because its practically giving bunny jumpers a licence to go crazy. In none of your videos did anyone go hopping around but you can be sure it'll happen once you go Live. Please keep FF as rabbit free as possible, stick people to the ground and keep the airborne antics restricted to conc-jumping and rocket-jumping.

[o_ivaqual]

yeah, it's pretty overpowered (hwguy flying around for instance) but i'm pretty sure it's going to be tuned down.

[PHISH]

Its completely unrelated to bunnyhopping.

It requires subsequently higher surfaces to pull off a double jump. It's funny you say so confidently it's overpowered having not even played with it.

You can jump whenever you want in super mario bros, why should everyone be rooted to the ground in a modern FPS? If appropriate disadvantages are there for people who 'rabbit hop', then it will be something you can counter fine. But just because something "is annoying" (without provided justification) to you personally does not cause any reason to restrict gameplay and movement possibilities.

[o_ivaqual]

just in case you're talking about what i said i'm not saying bhop or double jumping should be removed, i like them both.
i'm just saying that it's true i haven't played it but the hwguy directly accessing that ledge to the elevator room in 2fort felt way too easy and powerful.. i mean if even the hwguy can do that what's the point of having walkways there ? of course it's a completely uneducated impression, i'm sure other people feel differently

[o_mrmojo]

bunnyhopping is part of the game, deal with it

[PHISH]

Originally Posted by IVaquaL

i'm just saying that it's true i haven't played it but the hwguy directly accessing that ledge to the elevator room in 2fort felt way too easy and powerful.. i mean if even the hwguy can do that what's the point of having walkways there ?

Well it should be obvious why there are still walkways there...I hope. That's a redundant question. The move shown is actually harder than anything else you could pull off in the rr, but it's one move that could be used if the opportunity presented itself. It's also not 'easy' One its easily defended by someone in that walkway hallway to ele(which defenders normally play at). It would be a nice little move to pull off if the defender is out of position (say on the ground, with noone up top), but thats about it.

[o_stricknine]

double jumping is pretty much the same as trimping (from what I understand).
In that video, the distance from the bottom ramp to the elevator walkway isn't really that much. I think it will be fine.

[o_uncle-argon]

Its probably the new thing I'm most looking forward to in FF. Its gonna add a much-needed extra dimension to both offy and def movement and the dev team would be crackers to take it out. Which, I guess, is why they aren't....

[o_ivaqual]

alright then.. thanks for clearing that up. i still think it's too powerful but hey, i haven't played the game and even then i might not like something in the whole mod after all

[o_swampthing360]

You can jump whenever you want in super mario bros

hehehe i just finished playing that

and come to think of it i like the idea of the jumps adds a bit of a challenge for the Defencive teams plus it makes some of the heaver classes that bit more manoverable (yeah i cant spell so sue me) lol

[o_sta_sirtiger]

Originally Posted by MrMojo

bunnyhopping is part of the game, deal with it

qft, nuff said.

[o_sabre]

Bunny hopping is absolutely vital to the success of FF, but wait a minute, are you saying BH or trimping should be removed?

[o_sta_sirtiger]

I believe he means both...(.......pfft):

Originally Posted by antibunnyhopper

Please keep FF as rabbit free as possible, stick people to the ground and keep the airborne antics restricted to conc-jumping and rocket-jumping.

[o_yazmo]

one thing his sure bhop is not realy a good thing did you guy play in a league match
trust me those game were so boring when many ppl was bhoping
there is no point playing defense since offense his getting back too fast it just mess up with the gameplay

and another thing that its mess up im thinking of ppl using willTFC speedhack and jump all the time pretending they are bhopping
you guy have to wake this only give them a pretxt to pretend they are not
bhop is fun but just in pub

[o_qui]

Yazmo, you need to stfu, quite honestly. Your posts are just full of such rubbish.

[o_sta_sirtiger]

I agree with qui, for once. Jesus christ yazmo, you're in the wrong direction of TFC, rofl.

[o_swampthing360]

bhop is fun but just in pub

awww i would'nt say that....i played league matches with people bhoppin' if your good enough you can catch em in mid air and juggle them with rockets

i dont bhop coz i cant be arsed tbh but as i said if your good enough you can kill bhoppers with easeeee

[Lost]

Let me guess, yazmo posted something about hacks?

But anyways, bhopping has been included in FF as a feature, not an exploit of game mechanics. Its being tweaked and adjusted all the time and it is not the unlimited bhop that many people attribute to TFC (just like I used to.)
For example, a bhopping fatty can't outrun a scout who is not bhopping. I don't want to give too much away but it is far more forgiving than bhopping in TFC.

[o_nex nicholai]

Yaz, I took the liberty of showing you what your posts sound like when people are reading them.

Yazmo Outloud

[o_sta_sirtiger]

Greatest submission to that site, ever. haha...