(Beta) ff_summit

**Crazycarl** · 05-20-2008, 06:09 AM

Since before FF came out I've been making models and textures, planning to do a forest map of some kind. Finally I'm putting it all together, and it's a hunted map.

Assassins will be snipers, 1 demoman (he can detpack the barn if the hunted doesn't want to come out) and maybe 1 HWguy (If it's not too overpowered). I can allow a spy if people want it.

Bodyguards will be medics, snipers, soldiers, and scouts for jump pads and detpack defusing.

I've prototyped the whole map with a very simple displacement that I could change easily. Here's the plan. The blue lines indicate paths for the VIP. I'm probably going to move the starting point a bit to the left, and I'll add a little shack or two nearby for some more cover. Assassins will spawn in the tunnels and on the road, or just randomly all over the place.

I'm thinking the escape point will be a helicopter, if I can find a decent enough model. I really don't like how the escape area is set up. I want it to be large, but I have to block it off visually from the surrounding area for optimization purposes. And I don't want long chokepoints leading up to it.

Might be better to have just one route instead of two, through the center of the hill I have there now. I don't want the entire assassin team camping there, though.

Any ideas?

**Bully** · 05-20-2008, 10:26 AM

OOOoooo!

sounds good

Dr.Satan · 05-20-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazycarl

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Any ideas?

That last rock / hill at the end...if you put like a tunnel that is pretty wide but curves around then you can close off one side. Make the tunnel exit smallish but still enough room and block visibility on one side to keep it fair. Then have maybe a few towers or something near to the helipad to keep places for the assassins to camp?

Ihmhi · 05-22-2008, 11:53 PM

For names, I suggest:

ff_walkinthepark

The ironing is delicious.

greenday5494 · 05-23-2008, 04:04 AM

you could use HL2's model for the helicopter.

Innoc · 05-23-2008, 04:17 AM

Will there be patches of grass or grass everywhere? I've noticed that on flag4sky that the grassy areas make great places from which to snipe. Nice soft cover.

**Crazycarl** · 05-23-2008, 06:12 PM

Ihmni: good name. Seriously I like it.
greenday: that model is fugly. I want one that's more realistic.
Innoc: There will be some bushy places to hide in

greenday5494 · 05-23-2008, 07:28 PM

or the helicopter from EP2! (the one at the end where *BLANK* dies)

Nezumi · 05-27-2008, 01:51 AM

That's a bitchin' texture you've got on the ground (but srsly rotate it a little so the repetition is a little less obvious)

Circuitous · 05-31-2008, 04:29 AM

Sincerely needs more buildings / narrow areas the hunted can hide in, both to move through without being noticed so much, and to catch a break in temporarily.

There's a hell of a lot of just plain open land there on most of the routes.

**Crazycarl** · 07-28-2008, 03:48 AM

Started working on this again lately. The tunnel sections are in, pretty roughly. Working title is ff_summit. I hope I can get this ready for testing after 2.1 comes out, because it will need a lot of testing!

Fun with detail sprites!

**squeek.** · 07-28-2008, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Sincerely needs more buildings / narrow areas the hunted can hide in, both to move through without being noticed so much, and to catch a break in temporarily.

There's a hell of a lot of just plain open land there on most of the routes.

But, after playing hunted in the beta I'm excited for another hunted map.

pF · 07-28-2008, 11:42 AM

Aye - we definitely need to think about adding gametype prefixes or something to mapnames in the future though..

Looking good so far, Carl

Nezumi · 07-28-2008, 11:38 PM

We've thought about adding prefixes extensively.

shadow · 07-28-2008, 11:52 PM

we need to reconsider it then.

the arguments against were basically, (1) enabling people to google for ff maps and (2) we dont like gameplay specific prefixes

not very compelling or even persuasive imo.

on topic,
good luck with the forest theme! hope you have more trees ready.
this will be hard to do while maintaining decent fps...

im2cool4uroflolz · 07-28-2008, 11:59 PM

I'll freely help test it when it comes out, I'm Killroy.

<3 Hunted.

pF · 07-29-2008, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow

we need to reconsider it then.

the arguments against were basically, (1) enabling people to google for ff maps and (2) we dont like gameplay specific prefixes

not very compelling or even persuasive imo.

Yes. FF has so many different gameplay modes, some of them wildly different.. i think it makes sense to categorize them. As a newb i'd have no idea wtf was going on mapchanges.. looking for flags in ff_hunted and the like.

**squeek.** · 07-29-2008, 01:11 AM

Well, the idea has always been to put the gametype in the "Game" column of the server browser (I think Garry's Mod does this?). So it'd be like "FF Hunted" and "FF CTF" and "FF rCTF". That way, it could be controlled by lua.

Ihmhi · 07-29-2008, 01:16 AM

And it's also impossible to categorize some of them.

What if I made a hybrid hunted ctf map?

hntctf_mapname? Or what? Yeah.

Is there anyway we can put metadata into the server browser, like when you bring up a server it tells you about the gameplay type?

Nezumi · 07-30-2008, 03:02 AM

Yea, it's not like CS where you have 3 basic gametypes (and stuff like surf/awp/dm as wierd other prefixes). The whole beauty of TF is that there's an unlimited ammount of gametypes you can have, so a simple map prefix wouldn't help at all.

05-20-2008, 06:09 AM	#1
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	ff_summit Since before FF came out I've been making models and textures, planning to do a forest map of some kind. Finally I'm putting it all together, and it's a hunted map. Assassins will be snipers, 1 demoman (he can detpack the barn if the hunted doesn't want to come out) and maybe 1 HWguy (If it's not too overpowered). I can allow a spy if people want it. Bodyguards will be medics, snipers, soldiers, and scouts for jump pads and detpack defusing. I've prototyped the whole map with a very simple displacement that I could change easily. Here's the plan. The blue lines indicate paths for the VIP. I'm probably going to move the starting point a bit to the left, and I'll add a little shack or two nearby for some more cover. Assassins will spawn in the tunnels and on the road, or just randomly all over the place. I'm thinking the escape point will be a helicopter, if I can find a decent enough model. I really don't like how the escape area is set up. I want it to be large, but I have to block it off visually from the surrounding area for optimization purposes. And I don't want long chokepoints leading up to it. Might be better to have just one route instead of two, through the center of the hill I have there now. I don't want the entire assassin team camping there, though. Any ideas? __________________ Support FF: Last edited by Crazycarl; 07-28-2008 at 03:46 AM. Reason: title change

05-20-2008, 10:26 AM	#2
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05-22-2008, 11:53 PM	#4
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05-23-2008, 04:04 AM	#5
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	you could use HL2's model for the helicopter. __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

05-23-2008, 04:17 AM	#6
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	Will there be patches of grass or grass everywhere? I've noticed that on flag4sky that the grassy areas make great places from which to snipe. Nice soft cover. __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

05-23-2008, 06:12 PM	#7
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	Ihmni: good name. Seriously I like it. greenday: that model is fugly. I want one that's more realistic. Innoc: There will be some bushy places to hide in __________________ Support FF:

05-23-2008, 07:28 PM	#8
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	or the helicopter from EP2! (the one at the end where BLANK dies) __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

05-27-2008, 01:51 AM	#9
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	That's a bitchin' texture you've got on the ground (but srsly rotate it a little so the repetition is a little less obvious) __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

05-31-2008, 04:29 AM	#10
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Sincerely needs more buildings / narrow areas the hunted can hide in, both to move through without being noticed so much, and to catch a break in temporarily. There's a hell of a lot of just plain open land there on most of the routes. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

07-28-2008, 03:48 AM	#11
Crazycarl D&A Member Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 31 Times	Started working on this again lately. The tunnel sections are in, pretty roughly. Working title is ff_summit. I hope I can get this ready for testing after 2.1 comes out, because it will need a lot of testing! Fun with detail sprites! __________________ Support FF:

07-28-2008, 11:42 AM	#13
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Aye - we definitely need to think about adding gametype prefixes or something to mapnames in the future though.. Looking good so far, Carl __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

07-28-2008, 11:38 PM	#14
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	We've thought about adding prefixes extensively. __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

07-28-2008, 11:52 PM	#15
shadow Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	we need to reconsider it then. the arguments against were basically, (1) enabling people to google for ff maps and (2) we dont like gameplay specific prefixes not very compelling or even persuasive imo. on topic, good luck with the forest theme! hope you have more trees ready. this will be hard to do while maintaining decent fps...

07-28-2008, 11:59 PM	#16
im2cool4uroflolz y halo thar Join Date: Mar 2008 Class/Position: Lord of Random Sentry Placement Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'll freely help test it when it comes out, I'm Killroy. <3 Hunted.

07-29-2008, 01:11 AM	#18
squeek. Stuff Do-er Lua Team Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Class/Position: Rallygun Shooter Gametype: Conc tag (you just wait) Affiliations: Mustache Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 352 Times	Well, the idea has always been to put the gametype in the "Game" column of the server browser (I think Garry's Mod does this?). So it'd be like "FF Hunted" and "FF CTF" and "FF rCTF". That way, it could be controlled by lua. __________________ #FF.Pickup ¤ Fortress-Forever pickups My Non-official Maps Released FF_DM_Squeek - FF_2Mesa3_Classic - FF_Siege_Classic Beta FF_Myth - FF_Redlight_Greenlight Sick of the people on the internet, always moanin'. They just moan. - Karl Pilkington

07-29-2008, 01:16 AM	#19
Ihmhi [AE] 0112 Ihmhi SJB Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Newark, NJ, United States Class/Position: A little bit o' everythin' Gametype: Also a little bit o' everythin' Affiliations: [AE] Asseater, SJB Straight Jacket Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	And it's also impossible to categorize some of them. What if I made a hybrid hunted ctf map? hntctf_mapname? Or what? Yeah. Is there anyway we can put metadata into the server browser, like when you bring up a server it tells you about the gameplay type? __________________ Support FF: Anime: The Thread: Reloaded The one and only anime thread on these here forums. Select the pistol, and then, select your horse.

07-30-2008, 03:02 AM	#20
Nezumi Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals. Class/Position: Soldier, O Gametype: Doubble Mode Affiliations: Cassiotone Nation Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Yea, it's not like CS where you have 3 basic gametypes (and stuff like surf/awp/dm as wierd other prefixes). The whole beauty of TF is that there's an unlimited ammount of gametypes you can have, so a simple map prefix wouldn't help at all. __________________ TG: pretty much you have no idea how much i fuckin own at this game. TG: i bested no less than three flaming tornados and broke a huge wizard.

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