Lombardi Interview Feat. TF2 - Page 2

Jiggles · 08-28-2006, 07:46 PM

Yeah. Though it's kinda hard to even aim with a controller

Unless they use Metroid Prime-level auto aim, I can't see that they'll have PCs and consoles on the same server

But, it would be pretty cool to setup your console as a PC server!

o_zaskar · 08-28-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Yeah. Though it's kinda hard to even aim with a controller

Unless they use Metroid Prime-level auto aim, I can't see that they'll have PCs and consoles on the same server

But, it would be pretty cool to setup your console as a PC server!

I can show you now how to do that with your old Xbox ;D

o_happy time harry · 08-28-2006, 08:01 PM

^ Oh do tell! =P

o_amazingnurseenrique · 08-28-2006, 09:57 PM

Interesting, I'm exicted about some of their plans. Valve does have a smart high-end team, and remember these are the original people who made TFC. They know what they made originally was well as anyone, I'd wager.

Many gamers see change as bad (and if definately can be -- look at BF2), but I think changes, when warrented, are a way to move a stale idea forward and crate something new. As a medic purest in TFC, I'm glad to see them go a different direction there. Clan level play showed the class imbalances present in TFC, and anyone making a new TF game has an obligation to address those.

As long as the gameplay is the same, the particulars can change -- good players will adapt and overcome, while others will just get left behind and continue playing current TF games.

o_happy time harry · 08-28-2006, 10:47 PM

I'm a solider type of guy anyways =D

o_zaskar · 08-28-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by happy time harry

^ Oh do tell! =P

It involves you nto caring about playin games on the Xbox again cause you will be opening it up, soldering 2 points on the mobo to un write protect the bios so you can flash it. Then it requires a specific game (well there are like 3-4 now)

One of those few games is known to be bugged and will load anything under its name on the memory card, so when it tries loading the special linux boot software it crashes and then executes that code.

From that little text based gui you reflash the bios.

Now you DL one of the linux distros for xbox and put it in, the new bios will boot up the system and load the CD, and then install linux.

Then just run a Steam server like normal. ive done it

o_zaskar · 08-28-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingNurseEnrique

Interesting, I'm exicted about some of their plans. Valve does have a smart high-end team, and remember these are the original people who made TFC. They know what they made originally was well as anyone, I'd wager.

Many gamers see change as bad (and if definately can be -- look at BF2), but I think changes, when warrented, are a way to move a stale idea forward and crate something new. As a medic purest in TFC, I'm glad to see them go a different direction there. Clan level play showed the class imbalances present in TFC, and anyone making a new TF game has an obligation to address those.

As long as the gameplay is the same, the particulars can change -- good players will adapt and overcome, while others will just get left behind and continue playing current TF games.

Dont forget?
Dont forget they also made Richoet and Death match Classic (which i acually kinda liked, but it did tank)

o_groovis · 08-28-2006, 11:20 PM

Medic plague grens... Ah, Deadlode. We've so much to learn from ya...

Like regen packs and scouts with jet packs...

o_soulcutter · 08-28-2006, 11:23 PM

I guess it's possible that they'd remove conc jumping, but why would they remove conc jumping and keep in rocket jumping? Unless medic gets some other form of movement I think that'd be a pretty big game imbalance.

Circuitous · 08-28-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaskar

Dont forget?
Dont forget they also made Richoet and Death match Classic (which i acually kinda liked, but it did tank)

Ricochet was independent at first, wasn't it? And DMC is just Q1 Deathmatch ported to HL. Nothing nearly as involved as TFC was, or as TF2 is/will be.

o_zaskar · 08-28-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Ricochet was independent at first, wasn't it? And DMC is just Q1 Deathmatch ported to HL. Nothing nearly as involved as TFC was, or as TF2 is/will be.

True, TFC was first released as a HL patch, Even CS was independent at first.

Wonder what it was that made them wanna almost sponsor the other 2 though, their sucked monster nuts compared to many other mods, why not try to take on those instead.

o_beavis · 08-29-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AmazingNurseEnrique

Interesting, I'm exicted about some of their plans. Valve does have a smart high-end team, and remember these are the original people who made TFC. They know what they made originally was well as anyone, I'd wager.

Don't forget just because you created something good early on in your career doesn't mean that everything else you touch will turn to gold.

**mervaka** · 08-29-2006, 10:28 AM

haha, great analogy.

seriously, if the xbox fanboys get autoaim in multiplayer, i'm throwing a pissy fit. imagine snipers?!

o_sabre · 08-29-2006, 11:18 AM

He said you could see some of the medics new features in the demo or video i hope this isn't referring to the big syringe, like a revive ala enemy territory.

o_loader · 08-29-2006, 11:33 AM

I kind of agree with Zarkas.

TF2 has got the attention of EVERYONE nearly.. And so it will appeal to new players and old players alike.

Where as FF will appeal to oldschool veterans of both TFC and other Fortress games.

As a result TF2 will, in my opinion, have a very large community. But will be fairly immature in some areas (CSS).

and FF will have a smaller community. But will be more mature.

o_yazmo · 08-29-2006, 04:38 PM

maybe they just report the game because they have come here and see what are the opinion about TF2 maybe they wana put back some stuff because they know they are going to lost a lot of tfc veteran player if this and that are not in the game anymore

maybe that the reason why they report it
honestly TF2 without conc would be just dumb

o_etzell · 08-29-2006, 10:26 PM

In that case: HAY VAVLE GUYES! MAEK TFC2 EZ 2 H4X!

o_zaskar · 08-29-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by yazmo

maybe they just report the game because they have come here and see what are the opinion about TF2 maybe they wana put back some stuff because they know they are going to lost a lot of tfc veteran player if this and that are not in the game anymore

maybe that the reason why they report it
honestly TF2 without conc would be just dumb

How would it effect people who never got use to concs from TFC ;P it wouldnt, it only pisses the vets off and that is prob a minority atm

o_nezumi · 08-30-2006, 04:29 AM

TF without concs would be dumb. I'm not saying all games have to have concs but if I wanted to play a game without them I wouldn't play TF, and vice versa.

o_thedarkone · 08-30-2006, 05:29 AM

I don't see what the huge fuss is. Some of you guys are taking his comment about medic is being changed the most and spinning to look like he meant in was the only class to be changed.

Yes, the make might suck if the medic was nerfed and everything else was kept the same. But if scouts, pyros or spies were tweaked to help their offensive abilities, would it be bad if the medic was rejiggered into actually being a medic, focused on being a support-class ?

08-29-2006, 10:28 AM	#33
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	haha, great analogy. seriously, if the xbox fanboys get autoaim in multiplayer, i'm throwing a pissy fit. imagine snipers?! __________________ Support FF:

08-29-2006, 04:38 PM	#36
o_yazmo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: montreal canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	you guys never maybe valve his spying this forum to get idea maybe they just report the game because they have come here and see what are the opinion about TF2 maybe they wana put back some stuff because they know they are going to lost a lot of tfc veteran player if this and that are not in the game anymore maybe that the reason why they report it honestly TF2 without conc would be just dumb

08-28-2006, 07:46 PM	#21
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah. Though it's kinda hard to even aim with a controller Unless they use Metroid Prime-level auto aim, I can't see that they'll have PCs and consoles on the same server But, it would be pretty cool to setup your console as a PC server!

08-28-2006, 08:01 PM	#23
o_happy time harry Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	^ Oh do tell! =P

08-28-2006, 09:57 PM	#24
o_amazingnurseenrique Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Redmond, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Interesting, I'm exicted about some of their plans. Valve does have a smart high-end team, and remember these are the original people who made TFC. They know what they made originally was well as anyone, I'd wager. Many gamers see change as bad (and if definately can be -- look at BF2), but I think changes, when warrented, are a way to move a stale idea forward and crate something new. As a medic purest in TFC, I'm glad to see them go a different direction there. Clan level play showed the class imbalances present in TFC, and anyone making a new TF game has an obligation to address those. As long as the gameplay is the same, the particulars can change -- good players will adapt and overcome, while others will just get left behind and continue playing current TF games.

08-28-2006, 10:47 PM	#25
o_happy time harry Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm a solider type of guy anyways =D

08-28-2006, 11:20 PM	#28
o_groovis Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Medic plague grens... Ah, Deadlode. We've so much to learn from ya... Like regen packs and scouts with jet packs...

08-28-2006, 11:23 PM	#29
o_soulcutter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ohio Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I guess it's possible that they'd remove conc jumping, but why would they remove conc jumping and keep in rocket jumping? Unless medic gets some other form of movement I think that'd be a pretty big game imbalance.

08-29-2006, 11:18 AM	#34
o_sabre Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manchester, Uk Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	He said you could see some of the medics new features in the demo or video i hope this isn't referring to the big syringe, like a revive ala enemy territory.

08-29-2006, 11:33 AM	#35
o_loader Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portsmouth, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I kind of agree with Zarkas. TF2 has got the attention of EVERYONE nearly.. And so it will appeal to new players and old players alike. Where as FF will appeal to oldschool veterans of both TFC and other Fortress games. As a result TF2 will, in my opinion, have a very large community. But will be fairly immature in some areas (CSS). and FF will have a smaller community. But will be more mature.

08-29-2006, 10:26 PM	#37
o_etzell Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	In that case: HAY VAVLE GUYES! MAEK TFC2 EZ 2 H4X!

08-30-2006, 04:29 AM	#39
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	TF without concs would be dumb. I'm not saying all games have to have concs but if I wanted to play a game without them I wouldn't play TF, and vice versa.

08-30-2006, 05:29 AM	#40
o_thedarkone Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I don't see what the huge fuss is. Some of you guys are taking his comment about medic is being changed the most and spinning to look like he meant in was the only class to be changed. Yes, the make might suck if the medic was nerfed and everything else was kept the same. But if scouts, pyros or spies were tweaked to help their offensive abilities, would it be bad if the medic was rejiggered into actually being a medic, focused on being a support-class ?

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