Team Fortress 2 - Page 5

fishBurger · 03-22-2007, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mistermojo

seems kind of pointless, capturing a big shiny flag is a lot better than capturing some briefcase, why change it?

capturing a flag is just silly and unrealistic in a modern battlefield. realism and gravity is what TF2 is all about.

i cant fathom.

EiNSTEiN · 03-22-2007, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GhOsT

What grenades, defrag? If this article is correct the only class that will get frag grenades is demo.

The article doesn't say that there will be no grenades for the other classes. It only said: "There won’t exist normal grenades. Valve doesn’t want a sameness of all classes."

With normal grenades I suppose they mean frag grenades, which - in TFC - almost every class has. There could still be different grenades for more or less classes, like mirv (demoman), conc grenade (scout), napalm grenade (pyro), frag & nail grenade (soldier), gas grenade (spy), emp (engineer). These are just examples, and I remember reading somewhere that there won't be emps for the engineer. But we'll see in a few months or whenever.

PsYcNeT · 03-22-2007, 08:50 AM

No EMPs would be highly disappointing. Best defense an engy's got IMO

Besides, there's nothing more satisfying than gibbing a clusterfuck of sollys jamming their way through a small hallway

Norris · 03-22-2007, 09:34 AM

no EMP for the engy would be new to me. haven't read anything bout it yet. but I agree that removing normal grenades doesn't mean that their won't be grens at all. eg the demoman could get frag grenades when the scout can drop a flashbang.. anyway this is nothing more than speculation at this point. we'll have to wait and see but it sounds interesting!

edit: I'd like to point out that nobody should take this preview to serious. PC Action is a shit magazine in germany. wouldn't surprise me when they interpreted lots of stuff like the medic 10s invulnerability just wrong. but it's interesting to see that valve seams to prefer leaking "exclusive" information bout TF2 in germany. not the first time and not that it bothers me^^

DEATHSTRIKER6666 · 03-22-2007, 11:07 AM

i both tf2 and ff have play a lots. both VERY SHITS because the not badgers is enough of

kam · 03-22-2007, 12:43 PM

Agreed.

~kev~ · 03-22-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by STA_SirTiger

kev...please hush

A lot of you just do not want to face the TRUTH - TF2 is never coming out!!

Anyone remember Duke Nukem Forever? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_nukem_forever
Same thing with TF2 - screen shots, its just a few months from release, promise after promise, then everything just goes AWAY!!!

Anyone remember Daikatana?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daikatana
The over hyped game by John Romero? Same thing as TF2, its over hyped, years late, changed engines at least once.

If, and that is a BIG "IF" TF2 is ever released, it will be like Daikatana - a DUD. Its going to go , psft, the fuse burned, and that was it, no "BANG."

I have been on the TF2 bandwagon for 9 years, that is too long. about 8 months ago, I made up my mind, instead of talking about when it comes out, my position is, TF2 is NEVER coming out.

**mervaka** · 03-22-2007, 01:21 PM

the same arguments have been used for FF. and you blatently cant tell fact from opinion

ASS-asn · 03-22-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GhOsT

Well, in tfc everyone but scouts basically used grenades as their primary weapon. Really only medics and engineers used the super shotgun all the time with soldiers using it after dumping all their rockets (which usually meant missing with 4 rockets, priming a nade, spamming the shotgun, missing with nade 1, prime nade 2, spam more with shotgun, finally hitting with nade 2).

I'm welcoming the changes. Hopefully it'll weed out all the elitists and the leagues in TF2 won't be ridden with stupid gameplay rules right off the bat.

right on!!!

have you EVER heard of any game that forbids you to shoot at the enemy ?
coz "it would break the flow of the game or whatever??" cfr. bt

i mean in matches, of course i would abide to the rules that are laid down but seriously how ridiculous are some of the rules (no sniper, or whatever else)

it's a shame that only few of the classes are used ( may be used according to certain rules) in tfc competition

I think Valve has been rethinking it really well (afaik they have done some nice things before so I have confidence)

as it looks on paper valve will make tfc more richer by making the diffrent classes and teamplay more necessary part of the gameplay

mistermojo · 03-22-2007, 04:37 PM

only a few classes are used?

most of the classes are used in competetive play except for pyro and sniper

sniper doesnt fit the rules and no one, competetive or not, plays pyro unless it's a gimmick

fishBurger · 03-22-2007, 05:08 PM

<3 teh gimmick.

Jiggles · 03-22-2007, 07:03 PM

I wonder about allowing console and PC players to play together. Wouldn't the issue of crap analog stick controls be considered "technical"? Or are they just going to apply such a huge level of auto-aim it won't be much of a problem?

Also, will this mean scripting is totally locked? It would be pretty unfair if the PC players could use lots of scripts, but the console players could not.

GhOsT · 03-22-2007, 07:07 PM

Still, autoaim really doesn't help all that much in a game like TF where a lot of the weapons are projectile based.

The scripting issue is something I really hadn't thought of. Also, what about custom maps for users on consoles?

It'll be interesting to see just what happens.

SaberWolf · 03-22-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DEATHSTRIKER6666

i both tf2 and ff have play a lots. both VERY SHITS because the not badgers is enough of

.........??????????

mistermojo · 03-22-2007, 09:08 PM

is capture the documents going to be called CTD then

i wonder if the tf2 maps will have the prefix, will it be ctf_ or ctd_

Everything · 03-22-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DEATHSTRIKER6666

i both tf2 and ff have play a lots. both VERY SHITS because the not badgers is enough of

The Grammar button didn't like you today i see....
Oh wait, there isn't a grammar button or something is there?

FrenchToast · 03-22-2007, 11:23 PM

Yeah, TF2 is gonna rock some pasty white abs.

Can't wait for it.

t00l · 03-23-2007, 01:52 AM

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I wonder about allowing console and PC players to play together. Wouldn't the issue of crap analog stick controls be considered "technical"? Or are they just going to apply such a huge level of auto-aim it won't be much of a problem?

Also, will this mean scripting is totally locked? It would be pretty unfair if the PC players could use lots of scripts, but the console players could not.

If it really works out like that, I'm sure people would tend to hook up a mouse and keyboard to their xbox or whatever instead of sticking with the controller.

mistermojo · 03-23-2007, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by t00l

If it really works out like that, I'm sure people would tend to hook up a mouse and keyboard to their xbox or whatever instead of sticking with the controller.

you can't, microsoft won't allow any keyboard/mouse addons for 360
ps3 does though

StrickNine · 03-23-2007, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenny

The Grammar button didn't like you today i see....
Oh wait, there isn't a grammar button or something is there?

Deathstriker is the guy who learned to speak english from yoda, I think?

03-22-2007, 09:34 AM	#84
Norris The Good German Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Germany Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	no EMP for the engy would be new to me. haven't read anything bout it yet. but I agree that removing normal grenades doesn't mean that their won't be grens at all. eg the demoman could get frag grenades when the scout can drop a flashbang.. anyway this is nothing more than speculation at this point. we'll have to wait and see but it sounds interesting! edit: I'd like to point out that nobody should take this preview to serious. PC Action is a shit magazine in germany. wouldn't surprise me when they interpreted lots of stuff like the medic 10s invulnerability just wrong. but it's interesting to see that valve seams to prefer leaking "exclusive" information bout TF2 in germany. not the first time and not that it bothers me^^ Last edited by Norris; 03-22-2007 at 10:09 AM.

03-22-2007, 01:21 PM	#88
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	the same arguments have been used for FF. and you blatently cant tell fact from opinion __________________ Support FF: Last edited by mervaka; 03-22-2007 at 01:30 PM.

03-22-2007, 11:23 PM	#97
FrenchToast The 1337est D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Omagosh Canada. Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Yeah, TF2 is gonna rock some pasty white abs. Can't wait for it. __________________ James, while John had had 'had', had had 'had had' ; 'had had' had had a better effect on the teacher.

03-22-2007, 08:50 AM	#83
PsYcNeT Black Chancellor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	No EMPs would be highly disappointing. Best defense an engy's got IMO Besides, there's nothing more satisfying than gibbing a clusterfuck of sollys jamming their way through a small hallway

03-22-2007, 11:07 AM	#85
DEATHSTRIKER6666 expert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Plovdiv, Bulgaria Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i both tf2 and ff have play a lots. both VERY SHITS because the not badgers is enough of

03-22-2007, 12:43 PM	#86
kam Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Agreed.

03-22-2007, 04:37 PM	#90
mistermojo the pumps dont work Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	only a few classes are used? most of the classes are used in competetive play except for pyro and sniper sniper doesnt fit the rules and no one, competetive or not, plays pyro unless it's a gimmick

03-22-2007, 05:08 PM	#91
fishBurger get off my lawn Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O scout / demo Gametype: killing Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	<3 teh gimmick.

03-22-2007, 07:03 PM	#92
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I wonder about allowing console and PC players to play together. Wouldn't the issue of crap analog stick controls be considered "technical"? Or are they just going to apply such a huge level of auto-aim it won't be much of a problem? Also, will this mean scripting is totally locked? It would be pretty unfair if the PC players could use lots of scripts, but the console players could not.

03-22-2007, 07:07 PM	#93
GhOsT Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Still, autoaim really doesn't help all that much in a game like TF where a lot of the weapons are projectile based. The scripting issue is something I really hadn't thought of. Also, what about custom maps for users on consoles? It'll be interesting to see just what happens.

03-22-2007, 09:08 PM	#95
mistermojo the pumps dont work Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	is capture the documents going to be called CTD then i wonder if the tf2 maps will have the prefix, will it be ctf_ or ctd_

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