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Old 06-17-2010, 02:12 AM   #1
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FF pickup sucks.

<Bo-> thats fucked
<Bo-> scabuf said he would sub for me
<Bo-> I asked him and he said yea
<Bo-> if you check the logs
<Bo-> but w.e its obvious you got something up your ass for me
<trentluv> Okay
<Bo-> did you looka t the logs?
<Bo-> why would i get banned
<Bo-> ?
<trentluv> you're a fucking troll
<trentluv> and you didnt play in a game you added for
<Bo-> dude
<trentluv> if i see you pathetically trolling again im doubling the ban
<Bo-> he said he would add for me
<Bo-> woah
<Bo-> what do you mean troll
<Bo-> I play all the time
<Bo-> and scanbuf said he would sub for me
<trentluv> you specifically word shit to get a rise out of people
<Bo-> I didnt know he was spoons sub for micke
<trentluv> stupid people
<Bo-> he didnt tell me that
<Bo-> woah
<trentluv> but people who arent as stupid as them just get annoyed by it
<Bo-> what do you mean
<trentluv> wqhoa whoa whoa
<trentluv> whoa whats all this
<trentluv> where am i
<Bo-> no
<Bo-> just explain what you mean
<Bo-> is all I ask
<trentluv> if i see you troll
<Bo-> I honestly didnt do that on purpose
<Bo-> wtf do you mean troll
<trentluv> specifically wording shit to get a rise out of people
<trentluv> i just told you what troll means
<trentluv> if i see you doing it
<Bo-> TL
<Bo-> give me an example
<trentluv> im doubling the duration of the ban each consecutive time
<Bo-> if what u r saying
<trentluv> peace
<Bo-> cause I dont get it
<Bo-> so im still banned for what
<Bo-> I had a sub
<Bo-> for a pickup
<trentluv> ask spoon
<Bo-> lol
<Bo-> you listened to spoon
<Bo-> to get mebanned
<Bo-> why would i ask spoon
<Bo-> you banned me
<trentluv> its important to me you take your trolling problem more seriously
<Bo-> ok listen
<Bo-> I dont get what you mean by troll
<Bo-> I really dont
<trentluv> if you are in doubt as to what qualifies as trolling, go ahead and test it out
<trentluv> yea
<Bo-> I asked for a sub
<Bo-> and he said he would sub
<trentluv> just go and try to troll
<trentluv> and see what constitutes
<trentluv> im sure youll catch on really fast
<Bo-> see your a fuckin dickhead
<Bo-> if matt isnt a troll
<trentluv> you're
<trentluv> peace
<Bo-> or 3/4s of the people there
<Bo-> see how long ur an admin bro
<Bo-> banned killu
<Bo-> and matt for no reason
<trentluv> ive never banned killu
<Bo-> ur worthless
<Bo-> yea you did
<Bo-> idiot
<Bo-> even spoon talks shit about you
<Bo-> worthless admin
<Bo-> you dont even play
<Bo-> and need a little bit of power
<Bo-> your ruining a game you dont even play
<trentluv> i dont need any power i have power
<trentluv> because i go by the books
<Bo-> and we will see when I talk to squeek or infy tomorrow
<trentluv> like i said, if you make the same mistake over and over the ban duration doubles
<Bo-> how did you go by the books
<Bo-> your an idiot
<Bo-> you wont even say what I did wrong
<trentluv> you're
<Bo-> besides trolling
<trentluv> that's 2
<Bo-> whatever troll
<Bo-> means
<trentluv> what you did was ruined a game
<trentluv> i saw the whole thing
<trentluv> you never got the sub you said you did
<Bo-> I wated
<Bo-> for that game
<trentluv> you think i didn't know that part
<trentluv> waited*
<Bo-> to fill for 2 hrs
<trentluv> dude your shit needs work
<Bo-> and the I had a sub
<trentluv> im out
<Bo-> he said he would sub for me
<trentluv> goodbye

This is a convo between me and a TOP admin after I was banned from #ff.pickup for "not showing up". Mind you this is after I had already asked Scabuf to sub for me, and he agreed. So I went to play another game, and come back and I am banned. TL didn't want to explain it to me for some reason, and this is the answer I received. I add to multiple pickups everyday, and to be harassed and banned by an admin who isn't there most of the time it ridiculous. Most of the admins we have in the ff.pickup channel don't play. And you people wonder why you cant attract or keep players. Not only would he not answer my questions he decided he was more educated them me attacking my grammar on IRC? These are great people you have representing your game. Really loved the game when I first started playing but now it has gone to shit. If you don't believe me squeek or any other top admin in FF, check the logs please. I didn't even receive a PM on IRC or steam from anyone in the game or the admins, I could have easily left the game I was in, and joined the pickup. By trolling did he mean specifically adding to a game I didn't intend to play in, like the other 100 people who !add and !remove right after thinking its funny, or trolling by saying things to get people wound up, which is also done on an hourly basis. From what I can see he has a personal problem with me?

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Old 06-17-2010, 02:53 AM   #2
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#ff.pickup is full of tools, you didn't know that?
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Old 06-17-2010, 05:26 AM   #3
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The ban was reversed. It was a misunderstanding, plain and simple.

If anyone's curious, here are the logs:
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[14:49] <@PickupBot> Server info sent. If you did not recieve it, type !sendinfo or contact cplusplus-hef-.
[14:49] <Bo-> korey and mofo prolly in talos
[14:49] <+spoon`> doubt they are here
[14:49] <Micke-> fuck
[14:49] <Micke-> forgot I dadded
[14:50] <Micke-> I got to go to sleep sorry
[14:50] <+spoon`> your playing
[14:50] <+spoon`> dude
[14:50] <+mattdat> yessss!!
[14:50] <Micke-> thought I removed im really sorry
[14:50] <Bo-> hmm
[14:50] <+mattdat> ban
[14:50] <+spoon`> got a sub
[14:50] <Micke-> ban me if u want.
[14:50] <+spoon`> got a sub
[14:50] <Micke-> sorry anyways
[14:50] <Micke-> ok
[14:50] <Micke-> thxs
[14:50] <+spoon`> u fucking twat
[14:50] <AngrehBob> fucking nefas
[14:50] <+mattdat> bad enough u are teamed with PMSbob
[14:50] <AngrehBob> ychrist jesus help me
[14:51] * Micke- is now known as Micke|afk
[14:51] <AngrehBob> oh god
[14:51] <+spoon`> where is leadmine
[14:51] <AngrehBob> is matt back?
[14:51] <AngrehBob> i had such a good time with matt gone
[14:51] <+mattdat> u learn to bhop yet
[14:51] * Skywalker (~skywalker@96.254.45.215) has joined #ff.pickup
[14:51] <AngrehBob> nope, i still just run straight
[14:51] <+mattdat> or r u still the worst player in this game
[14:51] <+spoon`> sounds like poc, bob
[14:51] <AngrehBob> yep, still the worst
[14:51] <+spoon`> <AngrehBob> nope, i still just run straight
[14:51] <+spoon`> is that not poc?
[14:51] <AngrehBob> lol
[14:51] <+spoon`> amirite?
[14:51] <+mattdat> i rem poc made PMSbob rage quit
[14:51] <+mattdat> good stuff
[14:52] <AngrehBob> when was that
[14:52] <AngrehBob> musta been awhile back
[14:52] <+mattdat> like everyday
[14:52] <+mattdat> ROFL
[14:52] <Bo-> hey troll
[14:52] <AngrehBob> hey matt um............. get over it
[14:52] * Scabuf (~Scabuf@d216-121-137-46.home3.cgocable.net) has joined #ff.pickup
[14:52] <Scabuf> !add
[14:52] <@PickupBot> No pickup has been started.
[14:52] <+mattdat> cute comeback what are we in 5th grade?
[14:52] <Bo-> scabuf
[14:52] <Bo-> sub for me
[14:52] <AngrehBob> yes, 5th grade
[14:52] <Bo-> ?
[14:52] * Bo- slaps Scabuf around a bit with a large trout
[14:52] <Scabuf> k
[14:52] <Scabuf> yeah
[14:52] <AngrehBob> sigh
[14:52] <Bo-> k
[14:53] <Scabuf> not grade 5 its grade 3 son
[14:53] <AngrehBob> !nominate siden
[14:53] <+mattdat> little slow arent u bob
[14:53] <AngrehBob> yep, a little slow
[14:53] <+mattdat> dropped on ur head a lot as a child?
[14:53] <AngrehBob> a ton
[14:53] <Bo-> paint chips?
[14:55] <+spoon`> bo
[14:55] <+spoon`> scabuf is subbing for micke
[14:55] <+spoon`> get in here please
[14:56] * yfni sets mode: -o yfni
[14:56] <yfni> too tempted to ban mattdat
[14:57] * +spoon` slaps yfni around a bit with a large trout
[14:57] <yfni> sup
[14:57] <+spoon`> infy
[14:57] <+spoon`> sub
[14:57] <+spoon`> blades meth lab
[14:58] <yfni> i cannot garantee my presence
[14:58] <yfni> for the entire game
[14:58] <+spoon`> <LeadMine> no
[14:58] <+spoon`> <LeadMine> sub me
[14:58] <+spoon`> <LeadMine> got called back to wrok sorry
[14:58] <+spoon`> ban him too
[14:58] <+spoon`> ban bo and leadmine
[14:58] <LeadMine> !sub
[14:58] <+spoon`> please
[14:58] <LeadMine> Go luck
[14:59] <LeadMine> iso sub
[14:59] <+spoon`> ban 3 people
[14:59] <+spoon`> micke
[14:59] <+spoon`> bo
[14:59] <+spoon`> and leadmine
[14:59] <LeadMine> btw
[14:59] <LeadMine> pickup
[14:59] <LeadMine> admin is afk
[14:59] * ChanServ sets mode: +b *!*@cpe-74-71-134-182.twcny.res.rr.com
[14:59] * Bo- was kicked by ChanServ ((trentluv) Bye.)
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Old 06-17-2010, 05:32 AM   #4
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Misunderstanding that happened two days in a row? and the half ass apology that I received means nothing. Only after the ban did the admin decide to review the logs and figure out the situation. Ban first and ask questions later I guess. I love the game and play it on a daily basis, and you guys have a consistent basis of assholes ruining it for the people that truly enjoy the game. I would have played a few pickups tonight but couldn't get into the ff.pickup IRC chan. Good thing for people like Exo/churchmouth or there would be serious problem. IMO get rid of the elitist assholes who run this game, and get some admins who are here for the game and not the fame. And I realized that the dev team and real admins for the game are busy, but you need some type of governing body or FF police. I realize the game is extremely light handed but if you need help by all means ask. Not to mention the amount of rule breakers that go unpunished. People break pickup rules on a daily basis, and the only people that get banned are those that are not in the top "clique" in FF. People constantly break rules but nothing happens because of where they stand in the FF community. There is nobody that controls the pickups in FF.

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Old 06-17-2010, 09:36 AM   #5
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Old news. TL and poc are the head faggots of #ff.pickup, handing out bans for stupid bullshit while blatantly disregarding the rules themselves, all to flaunt their MASSIVE E-PEEN for being admins of a dead game (that ironically enough is dead in the US pickup scene largely because of them).

But everyone already knew that, of course.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:25 AM   #6
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:20 PM   #7
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hardly point even banning people from ff.pickup at this stage isn't it?! If it was a regular tool that ruins games purposefully then maybe. I dunno your track record tbh but I get the feeling that's not the case.
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:23 PM   #8
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If the admins were responsible, it wouldn't be an issue. We've got exo who's good at that (although why he keeps giving other people the rcon password to his server, which always ends up with spoon and poc and sometimes TL finding out what it is and going "HURRDURRKICKKICKKICK FUCK I AM SO HARD UHHHN ADMIN SPLOOGE WITH GATOR" is beyond me), and a few other good people like squeek and stiffy who, unfortunately, aren't around much. Can't hold it against them, they don't spend their lives wanking off to XYZ has been kicked by Console (OMGOMGSOHORNYFAPFAPFAP). We need to get rid of the shit admins, have others try their hand at it, and maybe, just maybe, the pickup scene will start to turn around.
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:53 PM   #9
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Do like hardy in ff.pickup euro, bad admins = remove admin instantly ftw, Whos head admin of us pickup btw ?
My main issue with US pickup it is thats its a bit anti new players, even me im not a newbie but im not a great player either, feel bad playng there without beyng in druggie mode, because the win win win win psicology, that makes dudes flame not so talented players D :, but I have to say that I noticed that in euro sometimes also.

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Old 06-17-2010, 05:19 PM   #10
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Old 06-17-2010, 05:49 PM   #11
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If the admins were responsible, it wouldn't be an issue. We've got exo who's good at that (although why he keeps giving other people the rcon password to his server, which always ends up with spoon and poc and sometimes TL finding out what it is and going "HURRDURRKICKKICKKICK FUCK I AM SO HARD UHHHN ADMIN SPLOOGE WITH GATOR" is beyond me), and a few other good people like squeek and stiffy who, unfortunately, aren't around much. Can't hold it against them, they don't spend their lives wanking off to XYZ has been kicked by Console (OMGOMGSOHORNYFAPFAPFAP). We need to get rid of the shit admins, have others try their hand at it, and maybe, just maybe, the pickup scene will start to turn around.
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HA. And people wonder why playing with the competitive community became such a chore. If you want evidence as to why the pickup/competitive community are so reviled, look no further.
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what am i good at? FF i already know.
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:25 PM   #15
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At being a respectable admin, who acts as if they actually care about the game and people playing it.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:52 AM   #16
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The same faggots who made TFC a shitty place moved to FF, and... made FF a shitty place. I don't even get why trent is an admin in ff.pickup.

http://forums.thecatacombs.net/showthread.php?t=108176

Trent is the worst admin ever, he bans people who aren't his friends and doesn't ban people that are his friends, etc. Then again, it's not like it matters, since most of the ff.pickup admins are just as bad as trent, save for like rookie and stiffy. Trent is a power-hungry turd (Just read that cats thread I posted above, its hilarious) that fucks up everything he touches.

I gotta agree with Blinky/Raynian, poc and tl being admins is a really bad joke.

brb im poc and picking on new players to the pickup channel while being an admin of the channel and the only populated competitive league

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PoC isn't opped.

If you guys have suggestions for better admins, let me hear them. Requirements: Fair, active, doesn't give partial treatment to friends, and willing to punish people when it's deserved. I can think of lots of people that fit into one or some of those, but approximately zero that can fit into all of them.

The biggest problem is that the active players are either friends or enemies with all the other active players, so finding someone that is both active and impartial is next-to-impossible. Exo is as close as I can get to it I think, but he chooses not to exercise his powers. It seems I can only choose between fair admins that are too nice to punish anyone, or unfair admins that punish people non-stop. It's been that way since #ff.pickup started, basically.
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Well i was there when Bo told me to look into it and i did, tried to reverse it but it wouldn't let me

[19:58] <Bo> you here
[20:51] <[ESAD]SiSCoS> ?
[20:51] <Bo> TL banned me
[20:51] <Bo> and I didnt deserve it
[20:51] <[ESAD]SiSCoS> tl?
[20:52] <Bo> I posted on FF forums
[20:52] <Bo> trentluv
[20:53] <[ESAD]SiSCoS> k
[20:54] <[ESAD]SiSCoS> unbanned
[20:54] <[ESAD]SiSCoS> try now

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Poc isn't opped, but he somehow keeps getting rcon to every server and banning anyone he's got a thing against.

And then he'll start pretend AFKing the next game because the teams aren't stacked in his favor, boo hoo.
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squeek i would really like to use my powers, however there is not enough support from any other admins. If i choose to ban ANYONE for ANYTHING, i get SOOOOOO much shit from everyone and people are turned off of FF for the rest of the day. We need to have a serious meeting of some sort to try to get this community on track. <3 for the close to meeting all requirements

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