Mad FF TF2 Prediction

o_mrfunky · 09-13-2006, 10:24 AM

Having read some of the debates about possible legal issues and competition between the mods/games, I've come to the conclusion that the most likely scenario will be that:

- FF will (hopefully) be released before TF2
- TF2 will be released with a source engine update for all mods
- Said update will criple third party mods like FF

o_ivaqual · 09-13-2006, 12:36 PM

Hah, even without any bad intentions from Valve's part, this could very well happen.

But yeah IBL.

o_aftershock · 09-13-2006, 12:55 PM

Don't give valve ideas... their spies are EVERYWHERE

o_pussyhunter · 09-13-2006, 01:13 PM

AfterShock is a valve spy <-- it's true.

(ibl)

o_sobe green · 09-13-2006, 04:55 PM

They used to say I was a Valve Spy!

o_scale · 09-14-2006, 06:59 AM

Been there seen that,
Remember dystopia valve update broke the whole mod (every mod) but the developers made it working again within the week.

o_nezumi · 09-14-2006, 08:56 AM

Certain SDK updates have already shown that valve is totally capable of doing this.

o_mrfunky · 09-15-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Scale

Been there seen that,
Remember dystopia valve update broke the whole mod (every mod) but the developers made it working again within the week.

Aye i remember just in time for DOD:_S release, did hidden and dystopia ever really recover from that, I guess thats debatable. Altho hidden was kinda silly anyways with that exploit.

o_coldy · 09-15-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFunky

Altho hidden was kinda silly anyways with that exploit.

You mean the one where the one guy can turn invisible? I always thought that was intentional. :P

o_nodnarb · 09-15-2006, 12:35 PM

IBTL

o_mrfunky · 09-15-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldy

You mean the one where the one guy can turn invisible? I always thought that was intentional. :P

No the one where the hidden was solid white by forcing something

o_erwin schlonz · 09-15-2006, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyHunter

AfterShock is a valve spy <-- it's true.
(ibl)

So why don't you shoot at him? I he bleeds he certainly is one.

o_mikequist · 09-16-2006, 03:16 PM

Well hopefully this new source engine base, where every mod is running off the same same thing, will fix that. I'm sure that Valve doesnt neccesarily want to go through every one of THEIR mods and fix them too. Thats what this new STEAM base is for (215?).

o_fean0r · 09-16-2006, 03:25 PM

Remember that FF will drive revenue for Valve anyway so why would they want to stop it?

The more mods being played the more people buying HL2.

o_ivaqual · 09-16-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fean0r

Remember that FF will drive revenue for Valve anyway so why would they want to stop it?

The more mods being played the more people buying HL2.

FF will also lower revenue for Valve.. some people will just play FF instead of buying TF2.

just a side note not meant to start yet another conspiracy debate. its just that people saying TF2 and FF do not compete are in denial. By the same token Microsoft Office and OpenOffice would not be in a competition (if you think is the case you are wrong).

o_eat · 09-16-2006, 04:18 PM

But strangely we have a good relationship with Valve. We both did a bit of backslapping over both video releases.

o_bsquared · 09-16-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFunky

Having read some of the debates about possible legal issues and competition between the mods/games, I've come to the conclusion that the most likely scenario will be that:

- FF will (hopefully) be released before TF2
- TF2 will be released with a source engine update for all mods
- Said update will criple third party mods like FF

um.. are you dumb valve is big because of mod's... Halflife the only reason why its big is because of mods and they want to keep it true with there games they have a thing on there steam that lets you make mods and it guids you threw...

o_yoda891 · 09-16-2006, 07:32 PM

I have a nagging feling that things between the devs and Valve are closer than most of us seem to think. I wouldn't be surprised if they send emails back and forth regularly, or even let a Valve employee or two have access to the Dev forum.

Any money that Valve would lose over FF, if any, would be miniscule, and they would most likely gain from it no matter what, with people buying hl2 to play FF. I for one haven't bought any source games or hl2, and don't plan on it until TF2/FF comes out(whichever is first.)

And stop with the conspiracy theories... possible but not probable.

o_fean0r · 09-16-2006, 07:43 PM

Yea I agree with what u 3 have said.

I loved TFC and played it at a high level before being seduced by CS - I've been idling on the forums for about 1.4 year(s) - ever awaiting for a release of FF.

The sooner we all get a beta copy of FF the better!

I know we'll def host a server on our dedi box as soon as it becomes avail!

o_oinker · 09-16-2006, 08:42 PM

actually guys i'm the valve spy :/

09-13-2006, 10:24 AM	#1
o_mrfunky Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Mad FF TF2 Prediction Having read some of the debates about possible legal issues and competition between the mods/games, I've come to the conclusion that the most likely scenario will be that: - FF will (hopefully) be released before TF2 - TF2 will be released with a source engine update for all mods - Said update will criple third party mods like FF

09-13-2006, 12:36 PM	#2
o_ivaqual Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Europe, Front Yard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Hah, even without any bad intentions from Valve's part, this could very well happen. But yeah IBL.

09-13-2006, 12:55 PM	#3
o_aftershock Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Don't give valve ideas... their spies are EVERYWHERE

09-13-2006, 01:13 PM	#4
o_pussyhunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	AfterShock is a valve spy <-- it's true. (ibl)

09-13-2006, 04:55 PM	#5
o_sobe green Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	They used to say I was a Valve Spy!

09-14-2006, 06:59 AM	#6
o_scale Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Been there seen that, Remember dystopia valve update broke the whole mod (every mod) but the developers made it working again within the week.

09-14-2006, 08:56 AM	#7
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Certain SDK updates have already shown that valve is totally capable of doing this.

09-15-2006, 12:35 PM	#10
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	IBTL

09-16-2006, 03:16 PM	#13
o_mikequist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tampa Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well hopefully this new source engine base, where every mod is running off the same same thing, will fix that. I'm sure that Valve doesnt neccesarily want to go through every one of THEIR mods and fix them too. Thats what this new STEAM base is for (215?).

09-16-2006, 03:25 PM	#14
o_fean0r Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Remember that FF will drive revenue for Valve anyway so why would they want to stop it? The more mods being played the more people buying HL2.

09-16-2006, 04:18 PM	#16
o_eat Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	But strangely we have a good relationship with Valve. We both did a bit of backslapping over both video releases.

09-16-2006, 07:32 PM	#18
o_yoda891 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I have a nagging feling that things between the devs and Valve are closer than most of us seem to think. I wouldn't be surprised if they send emails back and forth regularly, or even let a Valve employee or two have access to the Dev forum. Any money that Valve would lose over FF, if any, would be miniscule, and they would most likely gain from it no matter what, with people buying hl2 to play FF. I for one haven't bought any source games or hl2, and don't plan on it until TF2/FF comes out(whichever is first.) And stop with the conspiracy theories... possible but not probable.

09-16-2006, 07:43 PM	#19
o_fean0r Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yea I agree with what u 3 have said. I loved TFC and played it at a high level before being seduced by CS - I've been idling on the forums for about 1.4 year(s) - ever awaiting for a release of FF. The sooner we all get a beta copy of FF the better! I know we'll def host a server on our dedi box as soon as it becomes avail!

09-16-2006, 08:42 PM	#20
o_oinker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: san jose CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	actually guys i'm the valve spy :/

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