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Old 07-30-2008, 03:04 AM   #81
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TF2 is just fun, though. you dont need to learn and shit to have fun. it's a pick up, comedic, cartoony shooter that is fun.
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:26 AM   #82
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TF2's varied, yet limited, arsenal of weapons does not make up for its lack of other skills. Once you've got the handle on DMing and can figure out map objectives, you're pretty much done learning the game. All you have left are specific tactics - the same specific tactics you'd find in any team shooter.

Team Fortress 2 is a shallow game. That's all there is to it.
You could sum up any game like that and make it sound shallow, including FF.

I think TF2 involves more teamwork
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:33 AM   #83
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TF2 is just fun, though. you dont need to learn and shit to have fun. it's a pick up, comedic, cartoony shooter that is fun*.
*for some people.


not everyone wants a pick up, comedic, cartoony shooter.
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:37 AM   #84
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not everyone wants a pick up, comedic, cartoony shooter.
Not everyone, but I wouldn't say TF2's playerbase is hurting too much eh?
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:46 AM   #85
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absolutely not. but that doesnt change what i said


and honestly i would probably rather play tf2 (i dont have it) than ff 2.0 right now. ff 2.1 though... now thats a different story.
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:27 AM   #86
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Re: TF2 additions

You forgot about taunts...but I'm sure you think they're just as meaningless as I do. I also guess we're going to have to count the new weapons they've been adding, cause FF is adding stuff too. But, when 2.0 came out, TF2 looked pretty bare bones in comparison.

So onto the list:

1) Yep
2) Yep
3) Yep
4) Yep, but I'd take concs any day
5) Yep, but barely when they took so much away to begin with
6) you can't count...literally
7) Yep, but a recent addition, and a variant of #1
Yep, but a recent addition
9) WTF ever, melee's always worked for me
10) Yep
11) Yep, but a recent addition
12) Yep, but this is more of a monkey wrench
13) So, maybe this is the super-shotgun equivalent, but not an addition
14) Yep, but why?
15) Yep, but this is in the place of the pipe nades I was talking about...it's still a removal if you're going to count these
16) Nope, same as #2
17) Yep, but a step backward...more like a nerf
1 Yep, but I'd take the tranq gun any day...kinda nerf-like
19) See #14
20) See #17
21) Bigf'ingdeal
22) See #21
23) Yep
24) Nope

Well, all of you can score this however you like, but I count 17. If I leave out the weak ones we go down to 10. If you discount the recent additions you go even lower to 7.

So seeing as we haven't compared this to an FF additions list, which is quite extensive, I'll just suffice to say: I'd trade the 17 removals, and all the other stuff that's been added to FF, over TF2 any day. Plus, FF's had 96% of them since day 1.
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:17 AM   #87
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Hi all

I have been a FPS gamer for YEARS and couldnt wait for TF2(we all waited for fucking ever)

It was fun as hell for a lil while but I did not ever get the feeling out of it that good ol TFC gave me,FF Does how ever bring back the feeling of why I am at heart a FPS gamer,Its a kick as Mod that well,Shouldnt be a mod,should be a stand alone IMHO,I guess what i realy want to say is

I am glad the FF crew is still around as well as some TFC/FF hard core fans,As I type this I am D/L the latest FULL version of FF and can not wait to join the party once again.

I did have the first version and up to the start of the second? patch then left it aside for some other TRENDY shit and am sorry i did so.

Thank you FF crew and community,Ill be joining you in about a half hour.

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Old 07-30-2008, 07:32 AM   #88
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:52 AM   #89
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..and stick around.. the next patch shouldn"t be too far off now
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..and stick around.. the next patch shouldn"t be too far off now
It better be...
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:55 PM   #91
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just because there is no movement tricks in TF2 doesn't mean its any less.
Yes. It. Does.
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:18 AM   #92
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Its blatantly obvious a lot of you have never even played TF2 and are the same sort of curmudgeons who populate No Mutants Allowed. Bemoaning anything new while attempting to live in the golden days while the communities around you wither and die. You shriek heresy while TF2 is named GOTY as you idle in an empty IRC channel waiting to find people to play with because the servers are desolated.

You argue for a superior gaming experience but all you get are wasted months of your lives before you go back to see if you can find more than 3 TFC servers that aren't filled with bots by now.

You spit on "deathmatch" when the game you love so dearly was borne out of the same 'spawn, rush for enemies, jump around quickly, die, instantly respawn' gameplay that has been commercially unsuccessful and unpopular for over a decade.

You are a dying breed, living out their final gasps, taking in those final glimpses of sunlight. The world has changed around you but you fail to see it. Everyone has grown out of mindless hopping, flat environments, and stale gametypes. Everyone except for you.

Don't look for the revolution. It has already passed you by.
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Don't look for the revolution. It has already passed you by.
No it hasn't, it keeps stopping by to remind us what idiots we are.

Please, pass us by. Please.

The sooner you're gone, the sooner we can get back to enjoying the kind of game we enjoy - the kind of game that hasn't taken setbacks to cater to a simpler playstyle. The kind of game that isn't popular because it looks good and any idiot can play it.

You're worse than we are - we're not on your home turf with the sole intention of talking shit.
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Its blatantly obvious a lot of you have never even played TF2 and are the same sort of curmudgeons who populate No Mutants Allowed. Bemoaning anything new while attempting to live in the golden days while the communities around you wither and die. You shriek heresy while TF2 is named GOTY as you idle in an empty IRC channel waiting to find people to play with because the servers are desolated.

You argue for a superior gaming experience but all you get are wasted months of your lives before you go back to see if you can find more than 3 TFC servers that aren't filled with bots by now.

You spit on "deathmatch" when the game you love so dearly was borne out of the same 'spawn, rush for enemies, jump around quickly, die, instantly respawn' gameplay that has been commercially unsuccessful and unpopular for over a decade.

You are a dying breed, living out their final gasps, taking in those final glimpses of sunlight. The world has changed around you but you fail to see it. Everyone has grown out of mindless hopping, flat environments, and stale gametypes. Everyone except for you.

Don't look for the revolution. It has already passed you by.

Wow, i feel like the hellghast is gonna break down my door and arrest me in the name of heresy.
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:25 AM   #95
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