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Old 07-20-2009, 06:43 PM   #21
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Hadez will continue playing in leagues and whatnot if he decides to.
pretty sure that one is up to league admins. and i dont know of many league admins that want people who give out hacks to participate in their leagues
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Old 07-20-2009, 07:07 PM   #22
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So the general consensus would be that it's "OK" for this kind of garbage to float around the community? I suppose Hadez won't have to destroy FF himself if people won't grow a pair and ban shit like this. Use or not, the intent and probable cause is there. Why make excuses for people like this?

Just use some resources to prove a player guilty before arbitrarily banning him. If you can't prove that he did what he is being accused of, and ban him anyway, then it looks like he is being made the scape goat for someone else's actions.

If you can't get the evidence RIGHT NOW, that's ok, but don't act until you do, that's all I'm saying.
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:00 PM   #23
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pretty sure that one is up to league admins. and i dont know of many league admins that want people who give out hacks to participate in their leagues
Pretty sure league admins ban people on valid proof, not on he said she said bullshit. Additionally, he was not found hacking.
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:17 PM   #24
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Comming from another goodfellas point of view, I sadly would ban hadez for this. I can tell you i wont talk to him anymore thats for sure.
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:21 PM   #25
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tbh, if its his steam_id prolly was him, but anyway the major problem with this stuff, is that u are playing and might get demotivated cuse you play clean and some other people not, whats not fair, look at what ruined tfc ctf scene... hax..
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:27 PM   #26
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:27 PM   #27
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zE, try a different language. the one u just used doesnt exist
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:34 PM   #28
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tbh, if its his steam_id prolly was him, but anyway the major problem with this stuff, is that u are playing and might get demotivated cuse you play clean and some other people not, whats not fair, look at what ruined tfc ctf scene... hax..
To be honest, if his (IP address) matches the one used to distribute cheats in irc, then it's safe to assume that he is guilty. Regardless, the major problem with cheats are that once they are introduced into a community, the average player assumes everyone is using them, and loses the interest in improving. You can see evidence of this in the Team Fortress Classic Capture the flag league scene, that is, some cheaters ruining the fun for everyone.

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Old 07-20-2009, 08:36 PM   #29
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Anyone can go out there and frame a player. Why someone would, I don't know,
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:42 PM   #30
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i dunno good question mon0
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:50 PM   #31
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Some more screenshots from the conversation:

http://s248.photobucket.com/albums/g...t=Untitled.jpg
http://s248.photobucket.com/albums/g...=Untitled3.jpg
http://s248.photobucket.com/albums/g...=Untitled4.jpg

You'll have to squint because Stiffy's not good at the whole internet thing. Apparently Hadez got mad because someone !ended his pickup when he was AFK for a while.

There is no reason to believe Stiffy has any motive to frame Hadez. Everyone that knows Hadez thinks it is plausible for him to do something like this (VTB and exo have said as much). Say what you want Gator, but I'm sure Hadez has told you about this himself (since he has allegedly admitted to hacking to a few people).

I'll now be checking the #ff.pickup channel logs from June 13th if I can find them and I'll post what happened to make Hadez do this.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:14 PM   #32
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Full log here:

http://www.ffpickup.com/logs/hadez_v...amationend.txt

Important parts:
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[22:27] <+HADDDDDDDDEZ> !pickup pool
03[22:27] * ChanServ changes topic to '#FF.Pickup 15,0¤ Fortress-Forever pickups 15,0¤ www.ffpickup.com 15,0¤ Active Pickup: 12pool 15,0¤ Use !add to join 15,0¤ Whoever gave the rcon password to grimace ruined things for everyone, congratulations'
05[22:27] -PickupBot:#ff.pickup- Pickup started: Mode: pool. Map: undecided. Type !add to join.
03[22:27] * HADDDDDDDDEZ is now known as hadeZ

...

[22:49] <+hadeZ> im going inside to get something to eat quick
[22:49] <+hadeZ> i best have more people added when i get back

...

[23:10] <+trentluv> !add
[23:10] <+StiffMannn> it looks horrid
[23:10] <@PickupBot> 7/8 Players - Map: undecided - Server: me [ Players: hadeZ & zE^^ & korey` & mentalERROR & StiffMannn & onE & *trentluv* & ? ] Game Starter: hadeZ 

...

[23:10] <+trentluv> !end
[23:10] <@PickupBot> The pickup will end in three minutes if the game starter does not veto it.

...

[23:13] <@PickupBot> Pickup ended by an op before it was filled.
[23:13] <+trentluv> 1
[23:13] <@rodox> needs tweaks
[23:13] <+trentluv> !pickup pool

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05[23:26] -PickupBot:#ff.pickup- Pickup full.
[23:26] <@PickupBot> Randomizing teams...
[23:26] <@PickupBot> 4/4 Players - Map: of - Server: me [12 Team 1: blade-- & mentalERROR ] [4 Team 2: korey` & trentluv ] Game Starter: trentluv 

...

[23:31] <+hadeZ> !teams
[23:31] <@PickupBot> No pickup has been started.
[23:32] <+hadeZ> dude
[23:32] <+hadeZ> wtf
[23:32] <@rodox> LOLZ
[23:32] <+hadeZ> seriously
[23:32] <@rodox> OOPZ
[23:32] <@rodox> blame trent
[23:32] <+hadeZ> im never playing with you faggots again
[23:32] <@rodox> blame trent
[23:32] <@rodox> blame trent
[23:32] <@rodox> blame trent
[23:32] <@rodox> blame trent
[23:32] <@rodox> blame trent
[23:32] <@rodox> blame trent
[23:32] <+hadeZ> stfu rodox
[23:32] <@rodox> blame trent
02[23:32] * +hadeZ (~hadeztfc@c-24-218-208-182.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: EOF from client)

...

03[23:40] * hadeZ (~hadeztfc@c-24-218-208-182.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #ff.pickup

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03[23:49] * BossStatus (~BossStatu@BossStatus.user.gamesurge) has joined #ff.pickup

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01[23:52] <@squeek> !kb BossStatus
03[23:52] * ChanServ sets mode: +b *!*@BossStatus.user.gamesurge
03[23:52] * BossStatus was kicked by ChanServ ((squeek) Bye.)
05[23:52] -ChanServ- Kickbanned BossStatus from #ff.pickup.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:21 PM   #33
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In conclusion:
  • 1:27am EST: Hadez starts a pickup
  • 1:49am EST: Hadez goes afk
  • 2:31am EST: Hadez comes back (40 minutes after he went afk), his pickup was !ended and a new one was started/filled in the meantime. He complains and quits IRC
  • ~2:36am EST: Hadez PMs stiffy complaining about how his pickup was ruined and tells him his plans to pm people in the pickup channel
  • 2:49am EST: BossStatus joins #ff.pickup and starts PMing people

Enough evidence now, Gator?
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:27 PM   #34
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So, uh, where can I get these cheats?
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:31 PM   #35
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lol -kind of not lol.. but lol at the poor poor situation
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:55 PM   #36
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:27 PM   #37
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In conclusion:
  • 1:27am EST: Hadez starts a pickup
  • 1:49am EST: Hadez goes afk
  • 2:31am EST: Hadez comes back (40 minutes after he went afk), his pickup was !ended and a new one was started/filled in the meantime. He complains and quits IRC
  • ~2:36am EST: Hadez PMs stiffy complaining about how his pickup was ruined and tells him his plans to pm people in the pickup channel
  • 2:49am EST: BossStatus joins #ff.pickup and starts PMing people
We find the defendant guilty *slams gavel*!
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:03 AM   #38
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infraction to me for saying this
lol oh Stop it....

I gave you an infraction for flaming and now I'm not since you did not break any rules... comprende?
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:23 AM   #39
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:31 AM   #40
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I will try harder next time Geo.
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