The Elder Scrolls : The Dumbing Down

FDA_Approved · 02-17-2013, 11:19 AM

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I'm a little disapointed this guy doesn't think the removal of acrobatics and athletics was as much of a blow as it was. But I pretty much agree with every he stated in this video.

ian.de · 02-18-2013, 04:36 AM

I loved this video!

Perhaps these are the reasons why I put over 300 hours into Morrowind and could only play Oblivion and Skyrim for about 2 hours each?

FDA_Approved · 02-18-2013, 05:06 AM

I did really like skyrim as a game. But it doesn't even come close touching morrowind.

Lost · 02-18-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FDA_Approved

I did really like skyrim as a game. But it doesn't even come close touching morrowind.

Thumbs up to motherfucking this.

Now, give me a remake of Morrowind with Skyrim's magic system and crafting... Yeah, that, right there. Mmmmm yeah. Do it.

CaptainAhab · 02-18-2013, 09:27 PM

Morrowind is my next game in line after I finish off the Geneforge series.

I couldn't really get into Oblivion despite how awesome it looked but I hear Morrowind is the best TES game. What makes it better?

Agent Buckshot Moose · 02-19-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainAhab

Morrowind is my next game in line after I finish off the Geneforge series.

I couldn't really get into Oblivion despite how awesome it looked but I hear Morrowind is the best TES game. What makes it better?

Morrowind has the TES equivalent of bunnyhopping. Jump everywhere and before you know it you'll be jumping across almost entire cities.

ian.de · 02-19-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainAhab

Morrowind is my next game in line after I finish off the Geneforge series.

I couldn't really get into Oblivion despite how awesome it looked but I hear Morrowind is the best TES game. What makes it better?

Watch the video FDA posted, the guy outlines all the reasons Morrowind was the best experience out of the series.

Morrowind was the first game I felt truly immersed in. The world feels open and endless. You can kill anyone and do anything.

FDA_Approved · 02-19-2013, 11:50 PM

It's honestly hard to touch upon what makes morrowind good. I suppose if you're looking for more of a casual experience that takes place in a fantasy land scape, Skyrim is the way to go. But if you're looking for a more robust rpg experience Morrowind is for you.

But it is hard to explain what exactly is so enticing about it. I'm sure some of it is nostalgia. But that's certainly not the entire appeal of it. It's more immersive for sure. All the points in that video were legit, but I don't think it really covers it all.

I suppose for me it's a lot of the little things. In morrowind as opposed to skyrim, you have acrobatics and athletics skills that level up when you run and jump, eventually allowing you to become a speed demon who can jump small buildings as ABM mentioned.

In morrowind you could attack with your weapons and spells in any state, underwater, falling through the air, jumping around. In oblivion you had to reach a certain level to be able to attack in the air. In skyrim you must be firmly planted on the ground at all times to attack.

In morrowind everyone had a dialogue box. You talk to people about "latest rumors" or for pieces of advice. And while not everyone had something important or game changing to say, you could learn SOMETHING from EVERYONE. In skyrim lots of npcs have no dialogue options at all, and the ones that do, say very little.

Like the video mentions, Morrowind doesn't hold your hand through quests at all, and they feel much more rewarding for it. You often find yourself with an open ended objective, that has numerous solutions (for better or worse), none of which are pointed out to you. But you (usually) have enough information to get to your objective and assess the situation.

It's just little things like that. Stuff like a pair of boots that will literally allow you to jump so high you'll die from the fall damage.

GenghisTron · 02-24-2013, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ian.de

I loved this video!

Perhaps these are the reasons why I put over 300 hours into Morrowind and could only play Oblivion and Skyrim for about 2 hours each?

Skyrim isn't that bad, I regard it as I did Oblivion. If you mod the fuck out of it, you can overlook the horrible gameplay and it becomes fun.

GenghisTron · 02-24-2013, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainAhab

What makes it better?

Everything. Besides the graphics.

CaptainAhab · 02-24-2013, 06:43 AM

Cool, looking forward to the summer!

eomoyaff · 03-18-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost

Thumbs up to motherfucking this.

Now, give me a remake of Morrowind with Skyrim's magic system and crafting... Yeah, that, right there. Mmmmm yeah. Do it.

Skywind ...

http://morroblivion.com/forums/conve...to-skyrim/2606

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FDA_Approved · 12-11-2013, 07:43 PM

Damn, this guy makes good points:

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12-11-2013, 08:36 PM

how is elder scrolls dumbing down if there's part 2 of lusty argonian maid

02-18-2013, 05:06 AM	#3
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	I did really like skyrim as a game. But it doesn't even come close touching morrowind. __________________ Currently equipped: Rad Scarf of liberating happiness.

02-19-2013, 11:50 PM	#8
FDA_Approved Beta Tester Join Date: Nov 2011 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 293 Times	It's honestly hard to touch upon what makes morrowind good. I suppose if you're looking for more of a casual experience that takes place in a fantasy land scape, Skyrim is the way to go. But if you're looking for a more robust rpg experience Morrowind is for you. But it is hard to explain what exactly is so enticing about it. I'm sure some of it is nostalgia. But that's certainly not the entire appeal of it. It's more immersive for sure. All the points in that video were legit, but I don't think it really covers it all. I suppose for me it's a lot of the little things. In morrowind as opposed to skyrim, you have acrobatics and athletics skills that level up when you run and jump, eventually allowing you to become a speed demon who can jump small buildings as ABM mentioned. In morrowind you could attack with your weapons and spells in any state, underwater, falling through the air, jumping around. In oblivion you had to reach a certain level to be able to attack in the air. In skyrim you must be firmly planted on the ground at all times to attack. In morrowind everyone had a dialogue box. You talk to people about "latest rumors" or for pieces of advice. And while not everyone had something important or game changing to say, you could learn SOMETHING from EVERYONE. In skyrim lots of npcs have no dialogue options at all, and the ones that do, say very little. Like the video mentions, Morrowind doesn't hold your hand through quests at all, and they feel much more rewarding for it. You often find yourself with an open ended objective, that has numerous solutions (for better or worse), none of which are pointed out to you. But you (usually) have enough information to get to your objective and assess the situation. It's just little things like that. Stuff like a pair of boots that will literally allow you to jump so high you'll die from the fall damage. __________________ Currently equipped: Rad Scarf of liberating happiness.

02-18-2013, 04:36 AM	#2
ian.de Join Date: Aug 2009 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 14 Times	I loved this video! Perhaps these are the reasons why I put over 300 hours into Morrowind and could only play Oblivion and Skyrim for about 2 hours each?

02-18-2013, 09:27 PM	#5
CaptainAhab D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2012 Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 35 Times	Morrowind is my next game in line after I finish off the Geneforge series. I couldn't really get into Oblivion despite how awesome it looked but I hear Morrowind is the best TES game. What makes it better?

02-24-2013, 06:43 AM	#11
CaptainAhab D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2012 Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 35 Times	Cool, looking forward to the summer!

12-11-2013, 08:36 PM	#14
jmedilevilir Guest Posts Rated Helpful 7 Times	how is elder scrolls dumbing down if there's part 2 of lusty argonian maid

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