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Old 11-07-2010, 03:52 AM   #41
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:49 PM   #42
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Ok, so it's ok to make accusations on things you've "heard"... with no proof whatsoever. I forgot, you are an American and that's alright.
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:05 PM   #43
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This is on its way out of hand. I think we can all say we have strong feelings about the topic. So strong, in fact that neither side will convince the other.

Personally, I would need proof before I believed any of the accusations about scuzzy stalking anyone or calling their job. I would also state that any reasonable person would expect proof to back up such an unreasonable claim.

For the record though, I'm absolutely against whiners. Not to say that's what bridget is doing. I don't think that at all. But others whine... incessantly and frankly the solution is quite simple; play somewhere else. Continue changing servers until you are happy. The rules are posted, you get warnings. If I got banned from a server for doing something I thought to be harmless, I would say good riddance and move on.

In short, everyone is entitled to their opinion. You can hate and not hate whomever you like and you can believe any server sucks, or is awesome. If you truly hate a server, then don't go there and move on. Scuzzy or no Scuzzy.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:43 AM   #44
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Ok, so it's ok to make accusations on things you've "heard"... with no proof whatsoever. I forgot, you are an American and that's alright.
Do you have a fucking reading comprehension problem? I state multiple times that it's something I have heard. The people I have heard it from happen to be friends of mine. I trust their word. Scuzzy has a history. In fact, I have even seen with my own eyes peoples' names and addresses posted on their ban-list, even links to their third party social pages. I am assuming it's true based on this. To me, it's likely. I'm not concluding it's true. I'm not saying he absolutely did it. I'm just using my intuition with experience.

Also, what does being American have to do with shit? Isn't it just as bad if not worst to judge an individual's intelligence off the arbitrary label of nationality? Because I was born within an invisible boundary not of my choice, you know everything about me? Nothing like committing a fallacy right after you wrongfully accuse others of using it. I lol'd.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:48 AM   #45
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Oh yeah, here's the evidence you were looking for. It's the last entry. Now that I realize it, every ban attempts to fill available information about the banned person. That's enough to make me think Scuzzy is a creepy motherfucker, full name, age, and links to third party social sites aside. LOL

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Old 11-08-2010, 02:05 AM   #46
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Do you have a fucking reading comprehension problem? I state multiple times that it's something I have heard. The people I have heard it from happen to be friends of mine. I trust their word. Scuzzy has a history. In fact, I have even seen with my own eyes peoples' names and addresses posted on their ban-list, even links to their third party social pages. I am assuming it's true based on this. To me, it's likely. I'm not concluding it's true. I'm not saying he absolutely did it. I'm just using my intuition with experience.

Also, what does being American have to do with shit? Isn't it just as bad if not worst to judge an individual's intelligence off the arbitrary label of nationality? Because I was born within an invisible boundary not of my choice, you know everything about me? Nothing like committing a fallacy right after you wrongfully accuse others of using it. I lol'd.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. You act like an American, therefor you are one. And yes, you may take that as an insult.

I asked you why you even brought it up. Scuzzy is no longer around these parts, and anything he's done in the past no longer affects us. You've been a trolling fuckwit in the past, does that mean you still are?
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:23 AM   #47
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. You act like an American, therefor you are one. And yes, you may take that as an insult.
How can you act like an American? It's such a vague term. In what regard have I acted like an American if possible?

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I asked you why you even brought it up. Scuzzy is no longer around these parts, and anything he's done in the past no longer affects us. You've been a trolling fuckwit in the past, does that mean you still are?
I didn't bring it up. Someone else brought him up. I merely took part in the resulting discussion. Am I still? That's up to you to decide. While I don't think I ever trolled, I can totally understand if you were to guess my current character off of your experience. Assumptions? Okay. Fair enough. Solid conclusions? That might not be fair.
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. You act like an American, therefor you are one. And yes, you may take that as an insult.
Aren't you an American, Iggy? IIRC, you've expressed a desire to move to Germany, but have yet to do it. If I'm wrong, let me know, but if I'm right...
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:17 PM   #49
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Aren't you an American, Iggy? IIRC, you've expressed a desire to move to Germany, but have yet to do it. If I'm wrong, let me know, but if I'm right...
Only by virtue of having been born here. I try my best to transend my origins, though. And I will be outta here as soon as it's possible for me to be.

Bridget- Americans, as a general whole, act like they are better than everyone else while being obnoxious doing it. Americans will gladly tell someone else how to run their lives, while doing the same shit they say the others are doing wrong. I could keep going on, but alas, time is not on my side here.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:43 PM   #50
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That. Link you posted just shows a city state and country. Maybe that sounds like stalking to you but banners on porn sites tell me there are hot singles in my area all the time. I can say I believe that a website owner must be hacking database files and the like just to find out where I live. Hell, overstock.com has dynamic banners that update with items I've recently browsed. I doubt that the ceo goes through the effort you imply scuzzy goes through just to figure that out. More than likely it's a simple trace program that happens to turn up that information. It's probably not even all that accurate. As far as posting links to facebook and myspace goes, if someone annoyed me and I wanted to know if they were an adult I should be concerned about or an 11 year old with and anger problem I'd have no problem doing a facebook search for them. I facebook almost everyone that applies for an interview with me to see what kind drunk they are.

Listen, I'm not telling you that you're wrong. We both agree that you're talking about your own perspective opinion here. But if you're going to volunteer this thought of yours in such an aggressive manor don't get all that surprised when the people who disagree with you want proof and get. Annoyed when you don't have it.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:34 PM   #51
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Only by virtue of having been born here. I try my best to transend my origins, though. And I will be outta here as soon as it's possible for me to be.
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Bridget- Americans, as a general whole, act like they are better than everyone else while being obnoxious doing it. Americans will gladly tell someone else how to run their lives, while doing the same shit they say the others are doing wrong. I could keep going on, but alas, time is not on my side here.
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Either post phone logs, or just fucking drop it.

Can't you put the past in the past, and fucking move on? Are you seriously THAT petty?
Jesus Christ, Iggy. I mean, I like you and all, but you've got to realize how deep your head is buried right now. In your ass.

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The post Bridget brought up is at the bottom of the page. Here's everything it says, in context.
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Johnathan Dial, 22, Baton Rouge, Lousianna
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, United States

Banned permanently. Reason: Additional Account (Section II) (NIGGER FUCKING FAGGOT STEAM_0:1:24618050) - (ScuzTools) Auto-Ban - Racism (http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dial)
Doesn't that seem a BIT much to you?

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Old 11-09-2010, 12:08 AM   #52
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Without knowing more, no it doesn't. You could figure out all of that information about me in a matter of seconds, without even using any talent with computers. Since it's already out there I can't say that having it posted on a different spot is really any worse than having it everywhere else.

If you could prove that Scuzzy, or any member of OT went out of their way to find this information then I would agree that it's creepy and morally reprehensible. Posting it though isn't, since that person logged into their server, and possible their message boards. He basically gave that information to them.

On a personal, and side note, even if they did cyber stalk this person, while I don't condone such action, I hold it to be less morally negative than ignorantly posting the word nigger repetitiously.
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:57 AM   #53
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Jesus Christ, Iggy. I mean, I like you and all, but you've got to realize how deep your head is buried right now. In your ass.
I'm not telling him how to live his life.... just to let go of shit that no longer applies to this forum(or at least to not keep bringing up said shit). He is perfectly free to hate Scuzzy(or anyone else for that matter, including yours truly), but it really doesn't relate to the forums at this point.

I also agree with Binary, though... if it wasn't publicly accessable information, I would say it's going too far. For all we know, that user posted said information on the OT forums.
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:13 AM   #54
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Hurp durp derp herp I have a reading comprehension problem.
Man, your reading comprehension is at an all time low. For the last fucking time, I did not bring Scuzzy up. Someone else brought him up. This discussion continued for a few posts, where you attempted to argue against people who disapprove of the Old Timers server. I responded to this. Instead of giving me a legitimate response, all you have done is bitch and moan about how I keep bringing it up? You posted before me. So, why don't you stop bringing it up?

Oh, I forgot, you think you're an exception to everything. You're the only American that should be judged on individual merit and character instead of the arbitrary title given to you simply by being inconveniently born here. You're the only person that can discuss x, but when someone responds to your discussion of x, they're harping on shit that "no longer applies" and are "petty" for doing so. Double standards are really cool, bro. Be more of a hypocrite.

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I also agree with Binary, though... if it wasn't publicly accessable information, I would say it's going too far. For all we know, that user posted said information on the OT forums.
I personally don't care how publicly accessible it is. It's just the fact that it's being posted. How does it have any relevance to his ban? Why do you need to know someone's personal information to the point of having tabs on his activity on social websites? There's really no use except stalking them on the internet.
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I'll drop the Scuzzy matter if you will.
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