Mach2 - WIP - UPDATED 24/2/07 23:38 GMT-1

[o_own3r]

Updated!
Retextured, relit and with it's own half pipe!?

Sniper deck overlooking yard, I have got a midfield half pipe which should be interesting to do some tricks on; If you conc and land on it you fly


Ramp room with improved lighting


Flag room, notice the exit in bottom left that has a ramp which leads to the first floor, by the windows on the right at the top.

[o_tyrus]

Very different/interesting theme you got going outside! Looks a little weird, but not bad at all!

Thank god someone finally picked up mach! Automatically my favorite map.

[o_sta_sirtiger]

It feels like it is missing some uniqueness and style....
I'm not sure how to explain it, but it feels weird right now (unless those are temp textures, because the combine metal is not cutting it). You should try to make the texturing, trimming, and design more interesting.

[o_blister]

Yeah your floor textures look decent but the wall and ceiling textures need to change.
Style look very HL2-combine, but that might be because of the textures and models. speaking of those models, i think it might be better to cut out the floor underneath them on your 2nd shot, and work it out vertically. The transition with the floor is too abrupt now.
i like the architecture you've got for those light pillars in your last shot.

keep at it

PS: Is this the layout you sent me once ?

[o_rannibunny]

I'm begging you to make sure the doorways are high enough to allow access even when you hop through them.
That alone spoiled the map on ETF for me T.T

[o_own3r]

Originally Posted by BlisTer

speaking of those models, i think it might be better to cut out the floor underneath them on your 2nd shot, and work it out vertically. The transition with the floor is too abrupt now.

The floor of the first floor you mean? Cutting that floor will distroy an enterence completely, I have no idea what you mean about floor transitions im afraid.

Originally Posted by BlisTer

PS: Is this the layout you sent me once ?

This is something different completely though I might throw in some elements from that plan.

Originally Posted by BlisTer

Yeah your floor textures look decent but the wall and ceiling textures need to change.

Thats all well and good but change to what theres not exactly a wide array of choice with combine theres about 7 textures.

Originally Posted by rannibunny

I'm begging you to make sure the doorways are high enough to allow access even when you hop through them.
That alone spoiled the map on ETF for me T.T

That really bugged me too, so I have made a point of raising the ceilings in every part of the map. Also I have a route which takes you from the flag to the second floor which should make things interesting
The ramp room as you can see has been changed to have another defensive platform and to have a ramp you can hopefully double jump off The second ramp room has been removed since with the current layout 3 entrances is enough I think.

[o_agret]

That last screenshot reminds me of Halo for some reason.

[o_blister]

Originally Posted by Own3r

The floor of the first floor you mean? Cutting that floor will distroy an enterence completely, I have no idea what you mean about floor transitions im afraid.

No i mean it like on this pic

break open the white bits and extend the model downward to have a more vertical feel.

Also if i were you i would'nt restrict myself to the standard combine textures and models

[o_bumgravy]

not a fan of the combine stuff, i would rather people got away from that rather than using it just because theres a lot of combine textures and models with HL2

[o_own3r]

It isn't great, so you have to rely quite heavily on lighting. Im messing with that at the moment, I do quite like some of the special fx that there are though. Combine is not as overused as the concrete/grass theme though so im using it instead also reflective surfaces are fun to work with

[o_bumgravy]

Yes but you can still be innovative and original with concrete and grass, the only limits are your imagination/stash. Its like, oh i cant be bothered making architecture so Ill throw in a premade model thats been used a thousand times already and call it architecture. It also grates on me because you really cant make the map as immersive, If your playing a fortress game you dont want to feel like your in the last levels of HL2 looking for Breen and wondering how many more times you can look at Alyx's ass before the credits.

[o_own3r]

I will try to make the architecture more unique, but I like this theme im not bothered that its associated with the end of HL2. Just like concrete and grass is associated with the start middle and end of it. Your argument about throwing in premade models is true of all HL2 and its not specific to my theme.

[o_nezumi]

I like the combine theme. And combine props are more interesting than pipes anyway.

[o_paranoidkirb]

It looks really nice IMO.

[o_sta_sirtiger]

No they're not Nezumi, they are grotesque :/. Does not have a TF feel with such HL2 metals...

[o_own3r]

Originally Posted by STA_SirTiger

No they're not Nezumi, they are grotesque :/. Does not have a TF feel with such HL2 metals...

In case you hadn't noticed TF doesn't have a theme, theres ice, snow, desert sands, rock and concrete all of which are totally different. I'm just adding citadel to that I just happen to be the first I've seen to do it.

Anyway updated see first post.

[o_luminous]

i think increasing the lightmap would sort the staggered shadows, especially on this picture..

http://www.ashu39.dsl.pipex.com/mach2_2.jpg

[o_donny]

It looks weard in some way but I kinda like the feel you have given to it.

[o_dragonjojo]

I like it

[o_psycnet]

I like it, just fix up the jaggy light and maybe customize some of the textures to give it a more down-home feelin'.