Releasing Warpath Beta & Life gets in the way sometimes...

**Elmo** · 03-09-2011, 12:03 PM

Well with our very small development team it's easy for life to get in the way of things as it has for a majority of the team lately. I think things might start moving again now but it's been a tough one... can't help these things with our small team unfortunately. Apologies FF fans.

As I didn't want to leave you all with nothing and as I really want to get some play time going on warpath I decided to just release what I had done. There's imperfections in the lighting and a few clip brushes missing. You'll probably even find a few bugs but that's what beta testing is about!

So I guess here's an official beta test for the public servers! Most of all I hope you enjoy it. Please give me some feedback on the forum including the good, the bad and the 'bugly' (get it?)!

Should be appearing on pub servers soon. If not then nag the admins!

http://www.awillden.co.uk/ff/ff_warpath_b1.zip

**Ricey** · 03-09-2011, 01:10 PM

Yay!

Also, Elmo, NEVER try and be funny... Bugly? Really? I hope a beaver anally rapes you.

Gwarsbane · 03-09-2011, 07:19 PM

Thank you

zE · 03-09-2011, 07:36 PM

this maps looks very good, Rly good job on it :3

Hammock · 03-09-2011, 07:46 PM

omg can't wait to play it

Icculus · 03-09-2011, 08:14 PM

Awesome job!

Noticed that it's possible to get way up on the cliffs surrounding the bases and walk all the way around from up there.. Is that by design?

-Icculus

**Elmo** · 03-09-2011, 08:14 PM

no just too lazy to put clip brushes in yet

**Bully** · 03-09-2011, 10:20 PM

CatzEyes93 · 03-09-2011, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo

Well with our very small development team it's easy for life to get in the way of things as it has for a majority of the team lately. I think things might start moving again now but it's been a tough one... can't help these things with our small team unfortunately. Apologies FF fans.

At least you are getting something out the door. Unlike some mods.

reaper18 · 03-09-2011, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatzEyes93

At least you are getting something out the door. Unlike some mods.

some would argue on the bm forums that this is false..
They must be delusional

CHURCHMOUTH · 03-09-2011, 11:43 PM

too lazy to finish 2.5

**Crazycarl** · 03-10-2011, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHURCHMOUTH

too lazy to finish 2.5

We don't even know what's going to be in 2.5.

reaper18 · 03-10-2011, 03:13 AM

Just played today with a full server and was great success!
Good job on this elmo, the map is stunningly sexy and plays very nicely.

Gwarsbane · 03-10-2011, 03:22 PM

Played last night and it does look really nice. On my system (X2 4800, HD5770, 4 gigs ram, 1920x1200) it played very smooth.

We did have a crash of the game near the end, not sure if it was due to map or server.

A few suggestions

Need some more messages for people. When standing on a cap point that can't be captured it should tell people what cap point needs to be captured first. Inform people that they need to stand in the cap areas and stand there till its capped.

Better signage telling you which way the bases are. (more for noobs then anyone). More signs telling people where the actual cap points are. (some where asking where to go)

The capture times felt a little long. Maybe cut it down by 15% to 20% or so? (at least for a test)

I wasn't too big on the extra stairway to get up the back way from the center. Though I suppose that might be a decent spot for SGs and snipers to sit.

Again though beautiful map, had lots of fun on it. Took me back to the TFC days.

**Elmo** · 03-10-2011, 04:58 PM

Thanks Gwar.

I think displacements are one thing valve got right when it comes to optimisation!

Will have to keep an eye on crashes and see if there's a pattern.

Some more signs and notifications would be good. I need someone to model some appropriate signs tho as there's none that would fit the theme (that I could find). For the notifications I'll see what I can do but I might need help from an LUA guru if I get stuck.

I agree capture and lock times need to be adjusted. There wasn't enough beta testing to really come to set values - it's definitely something to be changed over time so I'd appreciate continued updates on your feelings on that.

Thanks for the feedback - report back after a few more tests whether it's just to say you still feel the same way or not!

moosh · 03-10-2011, 08:27 PM

Map is radically awesome. The only thing that would make it even better is a nice 3D skybox and actual models for the caps so it doesn't look like you're capturing thin air.

Get on it Elmo!

**Elmo** · 03-10-2011, 11:35 PM

yeah cause I can model... plus I have no idea what you'd have in mind for that??

Thanks though!

Gwarsbane · 03-11-2011, 02:02 AM

Had another test of it just now.

No crash like last time. Might have just been a server crash.

There is a space between the rock edge and where caps 2 and 4 are. Its easy enough to fall down in between, having that space a little closer so you can't fall in between would be good. If you need a picture of where this is I can take one.

Nothing else wrong that I seen, I don't remember hearing about any problems not already mentioned in previous post.

My suggestion for signage would be maybe add something to the spawn doors. Arrows pointing to each teams base and which cap points are in that direction. A simple texture would do the trick.

**Elmo** · 03-11-2011, 07:14 AM

I know where you mean. Decals on the doors would be good

Hammock · 03-11-2011, 04:48 PM

The choke point right outside the 2nd spawn, is considerabley tight, especially with those wood beams on each side.

It's not just a problem for Offense trying to get to the final cap, but it's a problem for defense trying to get someone through to get to the 2nd cap.

It doesn't even need to be properly defended, just the mass of people running from both sides trying to get through causes a huge mess right there. Once one team gets the 4th cap, it's extremely difficult for the other team to make a run to get their #2.

I think the lock out times on the caps should be a bit shorter.

03-09-2011, 12:03 PM	#1
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	Releasing Warpath Beta & Life gets in the way sometimes... Well with our very small development team it's easy for life to get in the way of things as it has for a majority of the team lately. I think things might start moving again now but it's been a tough one... can't help these things with our small team unfortunately. Apologies FF fans. As I didn't want to leave you all with nothing and as I really want to get some play time going on warpath I decided to just release what I had done. There's imperfections in the lighting and a few clip brushes missing. You'll probably even find a few bugs but that's what beta testing is about! So I guess here's an official beta test for the public servers! Most of all I hope you enjoy it. Please give me some feedback on the forum including the good, the bad and the 'bugly' (get it?)! Should be appearing on pub servers soon. If not then nag the admins! http://www.awillden.co.uk/ff/ff_warpath_b1.zip __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 03-09-2011 at 12:05 PM.

03-09-2011, 08:14 PM	#7
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	no just too lazy to put clip brushes in yet __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

03-09-2011, 10:20 PM	#8
Bully Beta Tester Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yorkshire, England Class/Position: Spectating Gametype: British Bulldogs Affiliations: ®™ ^ Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	__________________ ®™ Support FF:

03-09-2011, 11:43 PM	#11
CHURCHMOUTH crystaLcity D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Class/Position: Soldier D Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: Goodfellas Posts Rated Helpful 7 Times	too lazy to finish 2.5 __________________ 83745 L0LZ ff_nyx_b2 ff_schrape_b3 ff_security_b1 ff_baked_b2 ff_reloaded_b1 ff_mulch_dm_b2 ff_oppose_b1

03-10-2011, 04:58 PM	#15
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	Thanks Gwar. I think displacements are one thing valve got right when it comes to optimisation! Will have to keep an eye on crashes and see if there's a pattern. Some more signs and notifications would be good. I need someone to model some appropriate signs tho as there's none that would fit the theme (that I could find). For the notifications I'll see what I can do but I might need help from an LUA guru if I get stuck. I agree capture and lock times need to be adjusted. There wasn't enough beta testing to really come to set values - it's definitely something to be changed over time so I'd appreciate continued updates on your feelings on that. Thanks for the feedback - report back after a few more tests whether it's just to say you still feel the same way or not! __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

03-09-2011, 01:10 PM	#2
Ricey UI Designer Front-End Developer Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2008 Location: Winter Park, FL Class/Position: D Eng Gametype: CTF 9v9 Affiliations: .gr , smr Posts Rated Helpful 46 Times	Yay! Also, Elmo, NEVER try and be funny... Bugly? Really? I hope a beaver anally rapes you. __________________ Support FF: Maps : Haste \|Scrummage \|Mulch_Trench Voltage \| Exchange Classic \| Fortsake ricecakes: I demand SGs get a buff squeek.: buy it a gym membership 'I have an eye for design' - Kube 2014

03-09-2011, 07:19 PM	#3
Gwarsbane Slayer of humans D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mostly on earth though in some alt dimensions Class/Position: I'm an Offensive Defensive person Gametype: Fortress Forever Affiliations: I'm a merc, only thing that talks is money Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Thank you

03-09-2011, 07:36 PM	#4
zE Pew pew ze beams Join Date: Jan 2008 Gametype: Gathers Affiliations: pew pew Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	this maps looks very good, Rly good job on it :3

03-09-2011, 07:46 PM	#5
Hammock D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	omg can't wait to play it

03-09-2011, 08:14 PM	#6
Icculus D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Awesome job! Noticed that it's possible to get way up on the cliffs surrounding the bases and walk all the way around from up there.. Is that by design? -Icculus

03-10-2011, 03:13 AM	#13
reaper18 sKeeD D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Class/Position: Scout, Demo, Solly Gametype: Any Posts Rated Helpful 21 Times	Just played today with a full server and was great success! Good job on this elmo, the map is stunningly sexy and plays very nicely.

03-10-2011, 03:22 PM	#14
Gwarsbane Slayer of humans D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mostly on earth though in some alt dimensions Class/Position: I'm an Offensive Defensive person Gametype: Fortress Forever Affiliations: I'm a merc, only thing that talks is money Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Played last night and it does look really nice. On my system (X2 4800, HD5770, 4 gigs ram, 1920x1200) it played very smooth. We did have a crash of the game near the end, not sure if it was due to map or server. A few suggestions Need some more messages for people. When standing on a cap point that can't be captured it should tell people what cap point needs to be captured first. Inform people that they need to stand in the cap areas and stand there till its capped. Better signage telling you which way the bases are. (more for noobs then anyone). More signs telling people where the actual cap points are. (some where asking where to go) The capture times felt a little long. Maybe cut it down by 15% to 20% or so? (at least for a test) I wasn't too big on the extra stairway to get up the back way from the center. Though I suppose that might be a decent spot for SGs and snipers to sit. Again though beautiful map, had lots of fun on it. Took me back to the TFC days.

03-10-2011, 08:27 PM	#16
moosh WhenNailGrenWillOut? Beta Tester Join Date: May 2009 Gametype: mp_prematch Affiliations: [:)] - Frag Happy, babe\| Posts Rated Helpful 29 Times	Map is radically awesome. The only thing that would make it even better is a nice 3D skybox and actual models for the caps so it doesn't look like you're capturing thin air. Get on it Elmo! __________________ [[ ff_hotfudge - bhop_theonlyone ]] "As the the new year approaches I await for it like an case of explosive fecalomania otherwise know as diareha or the massive shits. I am gripping the sides of the toilet as my stomach produces the first hollow thud out of the anus of the year to come." DarkeN_HellspawN Last edited by moosh; 03-10-2011 at 08:28 PM.

03-10-2011, 11:35 PM	#17
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	yeah cause I can model... plus I have no idea what you'd have in mind for that?? Thanks though! __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 03-10-2011 at 11:59 PM.

03-11-2011, 02:02 AM	#18
Gwarsbane Slayer of humans D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mostly on earth though in some alt dimensions Class/Position: I'm an Offensive Defensive person Gametype: Fortress Forever Affiliations: I'm a merc, only thing that talks is money Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Had another test of it just now. No crash like last time. Might have just been a server crash. There is a space between the rock edge and where caps 2 and 4 are. Its easy enough to fall down in between, having that space a little closer so you can't fall in between would be good. If you need a picture of where this is I can take one. Nothing else wrong that I seen, I don't remember hearing about any problems not already mentioned in previous post. My suggestion for signage would be maybe add something to the spawn doors. Arrows pointing to each teams base and which cap points are in that direction. A simple texture would do the trick.

03-11-2011, 07:14 AM	#19
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	I know where you mean. Decals on the doors would be good __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

03-11-2011, 04:48 PM	#20
Hammock D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	The choke point right outside the 2nd spawn, is considerabley tight, especially with those wood beams on each side. It's not just a problem for Offense trying to get to the final cap, but it's a problem for defense trying to get someone through to get to the 2nd cap. It doesn't even need to be properly defended, just the mass of people running from both sides trying to get through causes a huge mess right there. Once one team gets the 4th cap, it's extremely difficult for the other team to make a run to get their #2. I think the lock out times on the caps should be a bit shorter.

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