(Released) FF_Casbah Source

[GiGaBiTe]

I'm releasing the source to FF_Casbah. The ZIP file below includes all sounds and materials needed to compile the map. It would appreciate a good recompile because the beta I released awhile back has VMPI lighting errors.

http://www.mediafire.com/?tzm1yqbfwin

It's released under the "I promise I won't make LUL BIG SNIPER TOWER IN THE MIDDLE TEH ROAD ND LEET" license. (ie. don't desecrate it.)

It needs some clothes lines with some shirts and various articles of clothing (I never made models to put in the place of the original TFC texture cards.) among various other tweaks.

Feel free to criticize poor mapping techniques you find, etc.

[Elmo]

awesome dude. I wanna take a look at the source anyway, I have fun on this map in pubs.

[Dr.Satan]

! somebody pick this up!!

[Gwarsbane]

very cool, I wish I had any kind of mapping skill, I'd take a crack at finishing it up.

This was one of my favorite maps in TFC and I do enjoy playing the remix version thats out there in FF.

[KubeDawg]

This version of Casbah is by far my favorite, so I appreciate you getting this far with making it.

Casbah was the first TFC map I ever played. I was 13 years old, an annoying teenager who didn't know how to change his name, let alone pwn at sniper. Oh how times have changed.

[Gwarsbane]

Originally Posted by KubeDawg

This version of Casbah is by far my favorite, so I appreciate you getting this far with making it.

Casbah was the first TFC map I ever played. I was 13 years old, an annoying teenager who didn't know how to change his name, let alone pwn at sniper. Oh how times have changed.

Ya now you're slightly older, still annoying and still can't pwn at sniper.

[KubeDawg]

hahaha so true.

[EquilibriuM]

Ye kube sucks at tfc and FF no doubt, he used to think he was the best concer in FF or tfc even but its a lie,lol. <3 kube nub scrub

[KubeDawg]

Hey don't be knockin my conc skillz. I may not be great at sniper, but other than Leo HACKER, who is?

[GiGaBiTe]

Originally Posted by KubeDawg

This version of Casbah is by far my favorite, so I appreciate you getting this far with making it.

Casbah was the first TFC map I ever played. I was 13 years old, an annoying teenager who didn't know how to change his name, let alone pwn at sniper. Oh how times have changed.

I'm more or less disappointed with the response to the map. I never see servers playing the map, and the times it does play, the server empties out within seconds with people saying "oh god not casbah, this map is terrible" among other things.

I've never gotten a chance to enjoy the map with more than myself playing it (and it was usually testing for bugs, not really playing) and I have wondered since the day I released it why I even bothered with it. It's the reason I don't have any motivation to work on ff_flagrun or ff_avanti, they just sit there unfinished because I'll likely get the same response.

[zE]

Ur map version is pretty good, not just a poor straight port like ff_casbah_remix, The textures , props ambience recreates very good the tfc one, i actually liked that map on tfc and also like it in ff. I think u did a pretty good job on it.
U shouldn´t release the source to any mapper imo, i think just some good maper in the dev team can do a even better work with it.
And ye the map isnt very very popular,but i seen it be playng in my several times with full server. But i never saw it running in other servers, and usually people just vote on maps that they are familiar with.
Personally its on of my favorite ctf maps to play in pubs : )

[Ricey]

Originally Posted by zE

Ur map version is pretty good, not just a poor straight port like ff_casbah_remix, The textures , props ambience recreates very good the tfc one, i actually liked that map on tfc and also like it in ff. I think u did a pretty good job on it.
U shouldn´t release the source to any mapper imo, i think just some good maper in the dev team can do a even better work with it.
And ye the map isnt very very popular,but i seen it be playng in my several times with full server. But i never saw it running in other servers, and usually people just vote on maps that they are familiar with.
Personally its on of my favorite ctf maps to play in pubs : )

Nah, releasing the Source was smart, lets other people figure out how to map, it'll also allow someone to fix the errors.

[thiz]

Would be cool if someone made 2 symmetrical maps from casbah, a red base map and a blue base map, with new middle map areas? it's still the only ctf map that's unbalanced.

[GenghisTron]

Reverse CTF*

GET IT RIGHT!

[GiGaBiTe]

Originally Posted by thiz

Would be cool if someone made 2 symmetrical maps from casbah, a red base map and a blue base map, with new middle map areas? it's still the only ctf map that's unbalanced.

I had regular contact with the original creator of casbah during my remake (called mideast.bsp when it was in development for TFC) and the map was initially about 5 times the size of what the modern casbah is today. I asked him if he had the source to his old map, and he said he couldn't find it (all that remains is a very low-res overview), which would have been a big help in making it bigger.

When I decompiled the original TFC BSP, it had quite a few left over areas that were made inaccessible, which I restored (the areas above the flag, the small room with crates in the blue base, etc.)



It would have probably made a good capture point map like CZ2 if it had its paths changed around a bit.

Originally Posted by GenghisTron

Reverse CTF*

GET IT RIGHT!

Casbah isn't reverse CTF. You take the enemies flag back to your base. Reverse CTF would be a map like Ravelin.