Should Bunny Hop stay or leave FF?

s0undch4s3r · 12-27-2007, 08:40 PM

BHOP is an advantage against the noobs who are the only hope for FF to grow.

Hawk Eye · 12-27-2007, 08:47 PM

Bhop is also one of the classic aspects of Team Fortress that any older player would hope to look for.

Innoc · 12-27-2007, 08:49 PM

I think you deal with it. All of us were n00bs at one point in time. If anything the old timers should foster a helpful attitude towards the n00bs. Help them learn. Personally I never bhopped. Glide hop only.

YomMamasHouse · 12-27-2007, 08:56 PM

I think that Bhopping is going too far when it is the most desirable form of movement over running. Might as well program the game to auto hop and have a special run/walk key. Combat just seems so clownish with two people bouncing around in circles trying to shoot each other.

s0undch4s3r · 12-27-2007, 08:58 PM

ok...that's cool.

FF shall stay in it's present status....it's an elitists game and will only appeal to
the the elites which isn't many people.

EDIT: i like the idea of the noob server/server's that's been talked about.
Those servers should have peeps in it that have the ability to teach noobs and not own them...lol

4est · 12-27-2007, 08:58 PM

How many nubs have I seen make a post of "OMG.. what is all that jumping.... it's so unfair"?

zero

Paft · 12-27-2007, 09:02 PM

Wouldn't bother playing if those exploit style skills weren't there. Though supposedly it's like it isn't there anyway because it's so slow.

Eradicate concing and rocket jumping...also remove weps just leaving classes with melee weapons.

edit:This is what/was what true TF was all about, those unintentional? skills.
What's the point if it all went? Would just be a regular game (TF2).
Don't like it then don't play it simple as.

Lazy post, cba, dull discussion. Yawn.

Jester · 12-27-2007, 09:04 PM

Almost everything is "unfair" to a newbie to any game. Instead of finding a way around it or learning to do it, they just complain about it. If it is part of the game, it's going to happen no matter what. Taking it out of the game will only lose players who have learned to love it.

uBeR · 12-27-2007, 09:05 PM

Wrong forum.

Hawk Eye · 12-27-2007, 09:15 PM

I don't see FF as an elitist game at all. Some of the community's attitude, sure, but not the mod.

So long as newbies [note: not a n00b] are willing to learn the more advanced skills of the game our fanbase will slowly grow.

Hopefully on the Newbie servers there will be such an environment where learning will be encouraged, and not just "LOL UR SLOW IMA FRAG YOU N00B KTHX."

BTW, when these official newbie servers are set up... DO NOT pull that shit. Seriously.

DarkeN_HellspawN · 12-27-2007, 09:18 PM

but that is my own opinion. Keep the rocket jump for sollys though since I cannot do that over and over again without dying.

dh

Etzell · 12-27-2007, 09:22 PM

Bhop was built into the game.
The devs want it there. It will stay there.

4est · 12-27-2007, 09:35 PM

Bhopping is far easier now. It's newb friendly now. Why do those who are against bhop keep ignoring that?

KubeDawg · 12-27-2007, 09:43 PM

So far it's 11-2 in our favor. Dark Hellspawn just likes to rile people up, so it's more like 12-1. Yep, the OP is the only person who wants to get rid of bhopping. Great job on the poll.

Backstaber · 12-27-2007, 09:47 PM

I voted against, just because I can.

zSilver_Fox · 12-27-2007, 10:38 PM

Why is it that people who have no idea what they're talking about or who can't bhop are always the ones against it?

It's sort of like the computer illiterate complaining about computers and the internet.

DarkeN_HellspawN · 12-28-2007, 12:22 AM

maybe rile everyone up to go out and recruit new players but not to cause internal strife on the mod. I like bhopping and it is easier then classic days but it was my personal opinion that it is a turn off with new players seeing everyone shooting each other and hopping around. I am only concerned about the player community and growing it. I can go to any server right now and see another fellow forum member playing on that server.

I am just wanting someone to step up and get some momentum moving. I do not want to argue the point. The devels created it with it in mind so it will stay of course. I am just giving my side of it. Now on the issue with players not being around what can we do and what should we do. We need to get some brainstorming going because people are not going to keep empty servers running forever.

dh

4est · 12-28-2007, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkeN_HellspawN

I am just wanting someone to step up and get some momentum moving. I do not want to argue the point.

You've apparently not been paying attention the past month.

Hayes · 12-28-2007, 01:38 AM

Bunnyhopping should stay. The tutorial that AcidRenix did was awesome, and maybe they should be put on the front page under a tutorial section? That way whenever a new player visits and downloads the game, they could also check out the videos. Oh, and maybe on the download page put something about the available tutorials.

TwL · 12-28-2007, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4est

You've apparently not been paying attention the past month.

With post #6, you also have apparently not been paying attention the past months.

View Poll Results: Should FF keep or get rid of BHOP?
KEEP BHOP CUZ it is the l337	61	83.56%
GET rid of BHOP CUZ it's not fair against nubs.	12	16.44%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

12-27-2007, 08:40 PM	#1
s0undch4s3r The guy you love to hate. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Under your bed Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Should Bunny Hop stay or leave FF? BHOP is an advantage against the noobs who are the only hope for FF to grow.

12-27-2007, 08:49 PM	#3
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	I think you deal with it. All of us were n00bs at one point in time. If anything the old timers should foster a helpful attitude towards the n00bs. Help them learn. Personally I never bhopped. Glide hop only. __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

12-27-2007, 08:58 PM	#5
s0undch4s3r The guy you love to hate. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Under your bed Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	ok...that's cool. FF shall stay in it's present status....it's an elitists game and will only appeal to the the elites which isn't many people. EDIT: i like the idea of the noob server/server's that's been talked about. Those servers should have peeps in it that have the ability to teach noobs and not own them...lol Last edited by s0undch4s3r; 12-27-2007 at 09:05 PM.

12-27-2007, 09:02 PM	#7
Paft Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK - http://forums.fortress-forever.com Class/Position: [O] Med Gametype: CTF/Skills Posts Rated Helpful 67 Times	Wouldn't bother playing if those exploit style skills weren't there. Though supposedly it's like it isn't there anyway because it's so slow. Eradicate concing and rocket jumping...also remove weps just leaving classes with melee weapons. edit:This is what/was what true TF was all about, those unintentional? skills. What's the point if it all went? Would just be a regular game (TF2). Don't like it then don't play it simple as. Lazy post, cba, dull discussion. Yawn. Last edited by Paft; 12-27-2007 at 09:13 PM.

12-27-2007, 08:47 PM	#2
Hawk Eye Who the fuck is this guy? D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O Preferred Gametype: AvD Affiliations: [AE] Asseaters Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Bhop is also one of the classic aspects of Team Fortress that any older player would hope to look for.

12-27-2007, 08:56 PM	#4
YomMamasHouse Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Your Mom's House Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	I think that Bhopping is going too far when it is the most desirable form of movement over running. Might as well program the game to auto hop and have a special run/walk key. Combat just seems so clownish with two people bouncing around in circles trying to shoot each other.

12-27-2007, 08:58 PM	#6
4est Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: OK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	How many nubs have I seen make a post of "OMG.. what is all that jumping.... it's so unfair"? zero __________________ Welcome to ZOMBOCOM! Support FF:

12-27-2007, 09:04 PM	#8
Jester Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: O: Scout Affiliations: {NFO} - New Family Order Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Almost everything is "unfair" to a newbie to any game. Instead of finding a way around it or learning to do it, they just complain about it. If it is part of the game, it's going to happen no matter what. Taking it out of the game will only lose players who have learned to love it.

12-27-2007, 09:05 PM	#9
uBeR Not ****** Yet D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Wrong forum. __________________ OCCUPATION 101. *One would think a simple task would be, well, simple. Maybe not for simpletons.*

12-27-2007, 09:15 PM	#10
Hawk Eye Who the fuck is this guy? D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O Preferred Gametype: AvD Affiliations: [AE] Asseaters Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	I don't see FF as an elitist game at all. Some of the community's attitude, sure, but not the mod. So long as newbies [note: not a n00b] are willing to learn the more advanced skills of the game our fanbase will slowly grow. Hopefully on the Newbie servers there will be such an environment where learning will be encouraged, and not just "LOL UR SLOW IMA FRAG YOU N00B KTHX." BTW, when these official newbie servers are set up... DO NOT pull that shit. Seriously.

12-27-2007, 09:18 PM	#11
DarkeN_HellspawN FORUM ADM!N Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Sun Class/Position: O/D D/O - For life or death Gametype: 2fort Spectating Llama GD Ex. TALOS Sniper Affiliations: FF God, The Yellow Brotherhood Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	I say it is time for it to go......... but that is my own opinion. Keep the rocket jump for sollys though since I cannot do that over and over again without dying. dh __________________ If you come across a great Yellow entity offering a yellow pill, take it. Its sunshine will grow in you stomach like a bowl of Sea Monkeys - The Great Yellow Book Page 8765 Ch. 194 -Section 3

12-27-2007, 09:22 PM	#12
Etzell D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Bhop was built into the game. The devs want it there. It will stay there.

12-27-2007, 09:35 PM	#13
4est Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: OK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Bhopping is far easier now. It's newb friendly now. Why do those who are against bhop keep ignoring that? __________________ Welcome to ZOMBOCOM! Support FF:

12-27-2007, 09:43 PM	#14
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	So far it's 11-2 in our favor. Dark Hellspawn just likes to rile people up, so it's more like 12-1. Yep, the OP is the only person who wants to get rid of bhopping. Great job on the poll. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

12-27-2007, 09:47 PM	#15
Backstaber Custom User Title D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey Class/Position: Scout Offence Gametype: Capture The Flag Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I voted against, just because I can.

12-27-2007, 10:38 PM	#16
zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Why is it that people who have no idea what they're talking about or who can't bhop are always the ones against it? It's sort of like the computer illiterate complaining about computers and the internet. __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

12-28-2007, 12:22 AM	#17
DarkeN_HellspawN FORUM ADM!N Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Sun Class/Position: O/D D/O - For life or death Gametype: 2fort Spectating Llama GD Ex. TALOS Sniper Affiliations: FF God, The Yellow Brotherhood Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	My intention was never to rile people up............ maybe rile everyone up to go out and recruit new players but not to cause internal strife on the mod. I like bhopping and it is easier then classic days but it was my personal opinion that it is a turn off with new players seeing everyone shooting each other and hopping around. I am only concerned about the player community and growing it. I can go to any server right now and see another fellow forum member playing on that server. I am just wanting someone to step up and get some momentum moving. I do not want to argue the point. The devels created it with it in mind so it will stay of course. I am just giving my side of it. Now on the issue with players not being around what can we do and what should we do. We need to get some brainstorming going because people are not going to keep empty servers running forever. dh __________________ If you come across a great Yellow entity offering a yellow pill, take it. Its sunshine will grow in you stomach like a bowl of Sea Monkeys - The Great Yellow Book Page 8765 Ch. 194 -Section 3

12-28-2007, 01:38 AM	#19
Hayes Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Bunnyhopping should stay. The tutorial that AcidRenix did was awesome, and maybe they should be put on the front page under a tutorial section? That way whenever a new player visits and downloads the game, they could also check out the videos. Oh, and maybe on the download page put something about the available tutorials.

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