quick fix for waterpolo

trepid_jon · 11-01-2007, 09:03 PM

Until the next patch comes out, here's a couple of updated files to make waterpolo work better...

*no need for these links anymore*

Not sure how much good the new FortressForever_english.txt would do if clients don't have it, though...because I imagine clients might need that updated file as well, so they can see actual sentences and words instead of # shitholes.

But the lua can be updated only on the server.

This newer script fixes ball bugs, gives players fortress points instead of frags, and some other stuff.

trepid_jon · 11-01-2007, 09:17 PM

Hah...so I uploaded the files from my FortressForever folder instead of my ff_dev folder.

For all 0 of you that downloaded those files before this reply, download them again for the real shit.

pF · 02-18-2008, 11:12 PM

While i liked the new waterpolo - the improved goalie, for instance - fps for everybody i played it with just now were horrible. large map, too many models on-screen.. i guess that kills the frame rates :/

GeoKill-----> · 02-18-2008, 11:37 PM

yeah e0 ran this last night with 7 vs 7 I think and it was lagging big time. I think the hills of death need to be removed or made into a skybox, well if thats even the problem. I was getting 40 fps when I usually get 300.

trepid_jon · 02-19-2008, 04:41 PM

It's definitely not the death hills. And I'm fairly sure it's not the map either.

However, waterpolo has HDR lighting and expensive water...which can lower fps on even the best computers.

Might put a new waterpolo in 2.1 that doesn't have HDR or expensive water...maybe. Don't know for sure.

I think the real problem is the same reason why FF has a maxplayers cap of 24: FF just isn't optimized well enough for shitloads of players to see shitloads of other players at the same time...doing shitloads of shit. Shit.

פֿяαιп βαмαgεפ · 02-20-2008, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trepid_jon

I think the real problem is the same reason why FF has a maxplayers cap of 24: FF just isn't optimized well enough for shitloads of players to see shitloads of other players at the same time...doing shitloads of shit. Shit.

pF · 02-20-2008, 02:00 AM

Yeh.. models need more lod levels..

zE · 02-20-2008, 12:49 PM

i usually have 120 fps with full servers, but in some maps that have water on it like well and waterpolo my fps drop dramatically dunno why.. i would prefer to see the simple water that u see in ff_dev_2fort/ openfire_b2, rather than playing with 50 30 fps..

pF · 02-20-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by -pF-

Yeh.. models need more lod levels..

Ok, i'll be adding some more lod levels to the player models.

/self quotes pwn.

[AE] 5316 *TKZ* · 02-21-2008, 12:09 PM

I dunno, pre 2.0 waterpolo worked perfectly for me.... wtb.

trepid_jon · 02-21-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by [AE] 5316 *TKZ*

I dunno, pre 2.0 waterpolo worked perfectly for me.... wtb.

2.0 waterpolo doesn't work perfectly for you?

Maybe it's all the railing props on the outside...never know about that dumb shit.

[AE] 5316 *TKZ* · 02-21-2008, 10:34 PM

2.0 water polo gets insane shit lag when water splash happens.

Like, if a jump pad is built, lagfest
when a ragdoll goes to make a splash and does land right, lagfest

Didn't get those problems in pre 2.0 waterpolo version.

Maybe we could just disable the mancannon in the lua?

trepid_jon · 02-21-2008, 11:24 PM

Could do that, but I kinda like the man cannon in waterpolo. Especially since they're only available from the side resupply rooms.

Does that have to do with the effects level, though? In Fortress Options. Lowering that setting should reduce splashes...or at least most splashes.

greenday5494 · 02-22-2008, 01:45 AM

bah. i dont like it. the goalies can go everywhere, and just bah. but i did find a weird est egg....

trepid_jon · 02-22-2008, 05:35 PM

Yeah, cause goalies are weak nothings that can easily be kept away.

greenday5494 · 02-22-2008, 08:16 PM

really? they did gibbing-damage in the other polo. oh, and i think the HDR needs to be tuned up or down a bit. seems a little unrealistic. but i still like it better than well

trepid_jon · 02-22-2008, 08:58 PM

Oh no, the goalies still have unagi power for instakills, but they also don't have any armor and can't pick up resupply items. Of course, a medic/engineer can heal/repair them, but goalies would probably want to keep moving as fast as possible so as not to be easily destroyed by sitting still.

Used the same HDR settings from Lost Coast, by the way. Just not the same textures, obviously.

greenday5494 · 02-22-2008, 09:17 PM

ah. well, im glad it even has HDR. i think our next pritority is to have all maps have custom HDR, especcially palermo!

Vicious · 03-03-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by greenday5494

bah. i dont like it. the goalies can go everywhere, and just bah. but i did find a weird est egg....

It's funny because a friend of mine has that bumper sticker.

Mulchman MM · 03-04-2008, 05:09 AM

i'd never get a MOM bumper sticker (or a WOW one)

11-01-2007, 09:03 PM	#1
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	quick fix for waterpolo Until the next patch comes out, here's a couple of updated files to make waterpolo work better... no need for these links anymore Not sure how much good the new FortressForever_english.txt would do if clients don't have it, though...because I imagine clients might need that updated file as well, so they can see actual sentences and words instead of # shitholes. But the lua can be updated only on the server. This newer script fixes ball bugs, gives players fortress points instead of frags, and some other stuff. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/ Last edited by trepid_jon; 02-19-2008 at 04:39 PM.

11-01-2007, 09:17 PM	#2
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	Hah...so I uploaded the files from my FortressForever folder instead of my ff_dev folder. For all 0 of you that downloaded those files before this reply, download them again for the real shit. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

02-18-2008, 11:12 PM	#3
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	While i liked the new waterpolo - the improved goalie, for instance - fps for everybody i played it with just now were horrible. large map, too many models on-screen.. i guess that kills the frame rates :/ __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

02-18-2008, 11:37 PM	#4
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	yeah e0 ran this last night with 7 vs 7 I think and it was lagging big time. I think the hills of death need to be removed or made into a skybox, well if thats even the problem. I was getting 40 fps when I usually get 300. __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

02-19-2008, 04:41 PM	#5
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	It's definitely not the death hills. And I'm fairly sure it's not the map either. However, waterpolo has HDR lighting and expensive water...which can lower fps on even the best computers. Might put a new waterpolo in 2.1 that doesn't have HDR or expensive water...maybe. Don't know for sure. I think the real problem is the same reason why FF has a maxplayers cap of 24: FF just isn't optimized well enough for shitloads of players to see shitloads of other players at the same time...doing shitloads of shit. Shit. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

02-20-2008, 02:00 AM	#7
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Yeh.. models need more lod levels.. __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

02-20-2008, 12:49 PM	#8
zE Pew pew ze beams Join Date: Jan 2008 Gametype: Gathers Affiliations: pew pew Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	Y i usually have 120 fps with full servers, but in some maps that have water on it like well and waterpolo my fps drop dramatically dunno why.. i would prefer to see the simple water that u see in ff_dev_2fort/ openfire_b2, rather than playing with 50 30 fps.. Last edited by zE; 02-20-2008 at 01:08 PM.

02-21-2008, 12:09 PM	#10
[AE] 5316 TKZ D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Windsor, Ontario Class/Position: Medic - O Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [AE] Asseater Clan Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I dunno, pre 2.0 waterpolo worked perfectly for me.... wtb. __________________ ================================================== \| [AE] Clan \| Rated R - Langauge/Violence/Adult Themes ICQ #:151482789 * AIM: fl4shbang * Y!: greerjt2000 ==================================================

02-21-2008, 10:34 PM	#12
[AE] 5316 TKZ D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Windsor, Ontario Class/Position: Medic - O Gametype: CTF Affiliations: [AE] Asseater Clan Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	2.0 water polo gets insane shit lag when water splash happens. Like, if a jump pad is built, lagfest when a ragdoll goes to make a splash and does land right, lagfest Didn't get those problems in pre 2.0 waterpolo version. Maybe we could just disable the mancannon in the lua? __________________ ================================================== \| [AE] Clan \| Rated R - Langauge/Violence/Adult Themes ICQ #:151482789 * AIM: fl4shbang * Y!: greerjt2000 ==================================================

02-21-2008, 11:24 PM	#13
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	Could do that, but I kinda like the man cannon in waterpolo. Especially since they're only available from the side resupply rooms. Does that have to do with the effects level, though? In Fortress Options. Lowering that setting should reduce splashes...or at least most splashes. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

02-22-2008, 01:45 AM	#14
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	bah. i dont like it. the goalies can go everywhere, and just bah. but i did find a weird est egg.... __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

02-22-2008, 05:35 PM	#15
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	Yeah, cause goalies are weak nothings that can easily be kept away. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

02-22-2008, 08:16 PM	#16
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	really? they did gibbing-damage in the other polo. oh, and i think the HDR needs to be tuned up or down a bit. seems a little unrealistic. but i still like it better than well __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

02-22-2008, 08:58 PM	#17
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	Oh no, the goalies still have unagi power for instakills, but they also don't have any armor and can't pick up resupply items. Of course, a medic/engineer can heal/repair them, but goalies would probably want to keep moving as fast as possible so as not to be easily destroyed by sitting still. Used the same HDR settings from Lost Coast, by the way. Just not the same textures, obviously. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

02-22-2008, 09:17 PM	#18
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	ah. well, im glad it even has HDR. i think our next pritority is to have all maps have custom HDR, especcially palermo! __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

03-04-2008, 05:09 AM	#20
Mulchman MM Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i'd never get a MOM bumper sticker (or a WOW one) __________________ Head of the Orca Revolution (TM)

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