08-04-2008, 05:35 PM | #1 | |
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OldTimers/[o-t] Servers bans killing the FF Community?
There was a thread in the catacombs regarding why FF hasn't done as well as it should. Someone made a really good point and i thought i'd share with the rest of you all and see what you thought.
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08-04-2008, 05:45 PM | #2 |
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There are many fish in the sea.
These servers tend to be full most of the time, and are generally more popular: :e0: Server, PwnPalace, FF School.org, /order/, and {FYC}. I don't judge a game by the server I visit. I judge it by the game. If I get banned, there are other servers I can go to.... |
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08-04-2008, 05:54 PM | #3 | ||
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That is why i would also like any o-t admin look into my case if they had the time because i do think there is a mistake. If i was banned for good reason then so be it, but i remember playing on that server with no problems. Come back home and i'm perm banned. Like you said though, kube, there are other servers to play on just really not that many to choose from. However, the main point of this thread is yes, there it is there server/community and they can do whatever they want. BUT, all those bans from lingering from TFC (another game) in 2005 could be hurting the FF player base. WheelOfTime/Cheese made a valid point that could definitely be discussed within your gaming community. That list is a bit crazy... 56 pages, roughly 2,500 bans, and it could have been a permanent ban due to something little, ie: 7/25/08 7:03 pm bullfrog STEAM_0:0:11903646 "camping" 7/02/08 11:42 pm Horse-face Space-dog STEAM_0:0:16594182 Insulting the clan 7/02/08 10:18 pm Connor MacManus STEAM_0:0:19422739 Calling admins pathetic I know in their TFC servers, o-t admins would ban players on sight if a person was caught bunnyhopping. There are quite a few bans regarding that to skilled TFC players that would be very good for this game in FF because they were involved with the TFC community for 6-8+ years straight. Last edited by elwood; 08-04-2008 at 06:05 PM. |
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08-04-2008, 06:11 PM | #4 |
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Why don't you ask them about it in their forums? They have a private section where you can talk to them and no one else sees what you or they say.
The admins here will just close threads like this. |
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08-04-2008, 06:19 PM | #5 | |
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That's too bad, because i think something like this should be discussed. Personally after looking at that ridiculous 56 paged permanent ban list that is also as old and continued from the year 2005... it does have some impact on the game itself like it or not. Plus, i am asking them here and they can PM me over these forums because i don't want to register on yet another forum board. It's not necessary at all to register on another board when they can just shoot me a PM here. They can see my small personal request and get back to me no problem. |
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08-04-2008, 06:56 PM | #6 |
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This will probably be moved to that new forum specifically made for this.
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08-04-2008, 06:56 PM | #7 | |
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08-04-2008, 08:35 PM | #8 |
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Thanks for moving it and not locking/deleting.
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08-04-2008, 10:37 PM | #9 |
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I love that they have a huge ban list. It gives my server, and other servers, like the ones Kube mentioned, more players. They can run their servers however they see fit. It doesn't bother me in the least.
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08-04-2008, 10:47 PM | #10 | |
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08-05-2008, 03:30 PM | #11 |
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I'll manage and address this thread later today, on my lunch break atm and do not have time to break it out into it's many points.
Thanks, Scuzzy
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08-05-2008, 08:36 PM | #12 |
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Maybe im not completely understanding your point but let me see if I can grasp it. Basically you are saying that the downfall of the entire game is based apon One Server? Ok so there isnt a plethora of servers to play on but because One Server has a player blocked they stop playing the game?
Well I ask you this.. What makes that One Server so popular? What makes the players who can abide by the rules continue to come back? Maybe they enjoy the environment... Maybe they enjoy the fact that a lot of the trouble makers are gone from the server ( Not pointed at any one person ). Ok so you say that there are bans from 2005.. That is 3yrs ago, Im sure some of those players are still around but im also sure 85% of them are long gone. So with this you would like to claim that the 15% remaining would put FF on the map and in the homes of millions? I think its basically just pointing your finger at someone else and saying they are to blame. Maybe its that in itself that hurts the expansion of the game. I absolutely love FF.. I love the feel of the game and highly enjoy the playing experience. But what I hate is logging into a server of egotistical elite players who think that there stuff doesnt stink.. Its simply a game, you die and you come back to life to kill again.. Yes id love to see 20 servers full a night but with the constant bickering it just wont happen. Really long story short, if you dont like the rules then please feel free to pay for your own server and play the game how you feel it should be played. But it is asinine to think that because One Server has an extensive banned list it has killed a game. |
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My response to WheelOfTime in the Catecombs thread:
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Aside from that I believe we already ran the numbers and found there are an extremely few (less then 10?) people that have been banned in our other servers that tried FF later on, so this entire argument is a moot point. Scuzzy
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08-05-2008, 11:55 PM | #15 |
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Yeah, a lot of these people arguments don't hold up real well when you have things like server logs, the truth, etc.
I still don't like the no swearing rule at [o-t] but I respect it while I'm playing there and I know why you have it. Also, since the FF forums don't have such a rule, I would like to add fuckity fucker McFuckenstein. The third. Fuck.
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08-06-2008, 12:09 AM | #16 |
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Well the main thing for a popular server is just simply to play on it. Getting back to scuzzies post about the ban list
[AE] uses steam bans so besides or local ban list we use steam bans. If you get caught on another server hacking and that server owner submits a demo,it gets reviewed then approved as cheating or denied. If approved then you go on the steam bans ban list. They also have anti cheat software in their plug in. So if you can't connect to a server it might be because you got busted before. I imported a copy of bans from or HL2 DM when we were running it which were 95 % myg0t members. Sorry but if you were one of those and you can't connect to my server Go to our forums http://www.asseaterclan.com register and PM Me or make a post. So think about all the little fun shit you do and see if it's worth it. I've played on Scuzzies server a few times and haven't been banned yet. But I do disable my hommer spray first. Edit: Ihmhi likes to say Fuck a lot.
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08-06-2008, 12:21 PM | #17 | |
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08-06-2008, 03:52 PM | #18 |
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If anything I think their server adds to the FF community. Some of us like to play on a server where there are rules about swearing and their server gives us that experience. Quite often when I play my 3 kids watch me, I personally do not want to subject them to a bunch of players cussing up a storm.
So for this I applaud old timers, I have nothing against any other servers I just enjoy spending most of my time playing on the old timers as it's a family friendly server. It's all about respect guys, respect the rules of the server and you will have no issues, disrespect the rules and you get banned. |
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08-06-2008, 03:57 PM | #19 |
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i find it ironic that you use worse language than is allowed in your server.
You better not swear, or the 4 year olds will see it |
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1. It's not my server. 2. When the server is open to the public I follow the server rules. 3. I am unaware of any language restrictions in this forum, so swearing here isn't doesn't constitute any sort of hypocracy on my part. I'm not breaking any rules, no one has stated or warned me that I am. So... not sure what's ironic about all that green... but whatever floats your boat chief.
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