Crash and black screen

Davelife · 09-13-2008, 11:15 PM

Well today I downloaded 2.1 and at random times the game freezes then goes to black. I can't exit the black screen so I have to restart my computer and this has happened 5 times today. For 2.0 fortress forever worked perfectly. Can someone help me?

[AE] 82694 · 09-13-2008, 11:53 PM

post your mdmp file for the dev's. programfiles/steam/#####_steam.mdmp or some shit like that. But from the sounds of it, I would guess your playing alot more than normal and your video card is shitting out on you.

4est · 09-13-2008, 11:57 PM

I going to start sounding like a broken record here:

1. Scrub your old video drivers
2. Install new drivers

CRASH PROBLEMS FROM VIDEO DRIVERS
Driver Cleaner Program - NUKE old drivers

Davelife · 09-14-2008, 12:22 AM

I have a good graphic card so it's not it.

[AE] 82694 · 09-14-2008, 12:26 AM

Well this is my last suggestion until you post system specs and what you have and have tried cause I don't like guessing at what you have done.Nobody said it was your card he said to scrub and reinstall your drivers for the card two different things.

steam://support/?Issues=*

Did you look for the mdmp file?

4est · 09-14-2008, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davelife

I have a good graphic card so it's not it.

Me too... and it would not load 2Fort until I did a driver update. Even if you don't think it will help - User driver cleaner to get rid of old drivers then install new drivers. It should be the first step in trouble shooting.

KubeDawg · 09-14-2008, 06:23 AM

Same thing just happened to me. I first loaded up FF after dling ksour, then went into a listen server and fucked around for a bit. I quit that, then joined another server with a few people in it that were on ksour as well, played till map time ran out, then I joined the gass chamber server which was on aardvark, and I got the black screen + hl2 error.

I'll try updating my drivers, but this is starting to look like a reoccurring issue.

Davelife · 09-14-2008, 01:48 PM

okay I have a pentium 4 3g proccesor and I'm using an NVIDIA GeForce 7600 Graphics card

[AE] 82694 · 09-14-2008, 06:09 PM

How much ram and what DX level is your game set to?
And what have you tried and what were the results?

Please list.
1) I have tried blah blah blah
no change
2) blah blah blah
no change

Other wise we just have to guess and it's like a cluster fuck wonder what you have and haven't done. So far we don't know if you have or haven't done any of the above suggestions. So help us help you follow the suggestions even if you don't think thats it and List the Results.

Nelson340 · 09-14-2008, 09:34 PM

Weird, that system requirements test said that I needed drivers from July 20th, 2006.

Also, I have this problem, but my drivers are from two years later.

4est · 09-14-2008, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelson340

Weird, that system requirements test said that I needed drivers from July 20th, 2006.

Also, I have this problem, but my drivers are from two years later.

Be sure to use driver cleaner. Follow their instructions for uninstall/reinstall of drivers. THEN install the latest drivers.

ATI:
1. Unplug nic card or modem from net or disconnect
2. Remove ATI driver from add/remove programs then remove the control panel from add/remove programs
3. Reboot into safe mode (F8 during boot up)
4. On reboot into safe mode WinXP SP1/SP2 will auto detect and install drivers. Just let it do its thing. If you can cancel out of the auto install hardware wizard then skip the rest and run Driver Cleaner! If you can NOT cancel out of auto detect wizard then...
5. Navigate to device manager->display adapter->uninstall and/or remove ATI display adapter but do not reboot
6. Disable any AntiVirus Software (If you don't disable is than it could give trouble)
7. Run Cab Cleaner (not needed, but recommended)
8. Run Driver Cleaner
9. Empty recycle bin and reboot
10. Install the new drivers and control panel

nVidia:
1. Unplug nic card or modem from net or disconnect
2. Remove nvidia from add/remove programs
3. Reboot into safe mode (F8 during boot up)
4. On reboot into safe mode WinXP SP1/SP2 will auto detect and install drivers. Just let it do its thing. If you can cancel out of the auto install hardware wizard then skip the rest and run Driver Cleaner! If you can NOT cancel out of auto detect wizard then...
5. Navigate to device manager->display adapters->highlight nVidia and click uninstall or remove but don't reboot
6. Disable any AntiVirus Software (If you don't disable is than it could give trouble)
7. Run Cab Cleaner (not needed, but recommended)
8. Run Driver Cleaner
9. Empty recycle bin and reboot
10. Install the new drivers

Other:
1. Unplug nic card or modem from net or disconnect
2. Remove driver from add/remove programs
3. Reboot into safe mode (F8 during boot up)
4. On reboot into safe mode WinXP SP1/SP2 will auto detect and install drivers. Just let it do its thing. If you can cancel out of the auto install hardware wizard then skip the rest and run Driver Cleaner! If you can NOT cancel out of auto detect wizard then...
5. Navigate to device manager->select the category->uninstall and/or remove but do not reboot
6. Disable any AntiVirus Software (If you don't disable is than it could give trouble)
7. Run Driver Cleaner
8. Empty recycle bin and reboot
9. Install the new driver

BoltR · 09-14-2008, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelson340

Weird, that system requirements test said that I needed drivers from July 20th, 2006.

Also, I have this problem, but my drivers are from two years later.

The issue is that video card companies stop supporting, and adding features for older cards when new ones come out. So even though there are newer drivers available, they don't normally actually add anything for your card. In the odd case the new stuff that is added can actually cause problems, so it MIGHT be worth trying to rollback.

Nelson340 · 09-15-2008, 12:07 AM

The back of my gfx card's box uses screenshots from COD4 to show its technology. (The card's, not the game's.) That makes me think it's newer. (BTW, in case you're wondering, it's a Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT with overclocking from BFG.)

Davelife · 09-15-2008, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4est

I going to start sounding like a broken record here:

1. Scrub your old video drivers
2. Install new drivers

CRASH PROBLEMS FROM VIDEO DRIVERS
Driver Cleaner Program - NUKE old drivers

Dude I'm not going to do that for two reasons
1 I use a shared computer
2 Everyother mod works fine and version 2.0 of fortress forever worked fine

[AE] 82694 · 09-15-2008, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [AE] 82694

How much ram and what DX level is your game set to?
And what have you tried and what were the results?

Please list.
1) I have tried blah blah blah
no change
2) blah blah blah
no change

Other wise we just have to guess and it's like a cluster fuck wonder what you have and haven't done. So far we don't know if you have or haven't done any of the above suggestions. So help us help you follow the suggestions even if you don't think thats it and List the Results.

Ok so your unwilling to scrub your drivers For the reasons you posted. Have you tried anything else?You still haven't done any of the above. I bet you didn't even click the steam link I posted like the other guy did. You want help but yet you are unwilling to follow suggestions.

Nelson340 · 09-16-2008, 01:52 AM

I cleaned up my drivers and installed new ones, but I still get a crash. On the plus side, however, it took longer than usual to crash.

[AE] 82694 · 09-16-2008, 03:29 AM

Nelson340 post some system specs please so we know what we are working with.

proccesor
ram
nvida 9600 gt

Also are you over clocking it? is the cooling fan running on your 9600? Try all default card settings if you are over clocking it.

Nelson340 · 09-16-2008, 12:31 PM

Processor: Intel Pentium D w/ 2.66 ghz per core
RAM: 1 GB

Yes, the cooling fan is running on it. Also, I'm not really overclocking it, it came with it out of the box.

exclamatio · 09-21-2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4est

I going to start sounding like a broken record here:

1. Scrub your old video drivers
2. Install new drivers

CRASH PROBLEMS FROM VIDEO DRIVERS
Driver Cleaner Program - NUKE old drivers

i had/still have this problem pre and post format

im running an 8800gt with the latest drivers
win xp pro
2gb ram
amd X2 4200+

Nelson340 · 02-20-2009, 01:05 AM

Forgive me for thread revival, but this is starting to happen in other Source games. My reported victims:

*Half-Life 2
*Synergy
*Garry's Mod
*Counter-Strike Source
*SMod
*(rarest of all) Team Fortress 2
This has also been happening if I bump the settings down.

Oh, and where could I get 2GB of RAM for a cheap price? I'm starting to think that that's the problem.

09-13-2008, 11:15 PM	#1
Davelife Join Date: Sep 2008 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Crash and black screen Well today I downloaded 2.1 and at random times the game freezes then goes to black. I can't exit the black screen so I have to restart my computer and this has happened 5 times today. For 2.0 fortress forever worked perfectly. Can someone help me?

09-13-2008, 11:53 PM	#2
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	post your mdmp file for the dev's. programfiles/steam/#####_steam.mdmp or some shit like that. But from the sounds of it, I would guess your playing alot more than normal and your video card is shitting out on you. __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL.

09-13-2008, 11:57 PM	#3
4est Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: OK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I going to start sounding like a broken record here: 1. Scrub your old video drivers 2. Install new drivers CRASH PROBLEMS FROM VIDEO DRIVERS Driver Cleaner Program - NUKE old drivers __________________ Welcome to ZOMBOCOM! Support FF:

09-14-2008, 12:26 AM	#5
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well this is my last suggestion until you post system specs and what you have and have tried cause I don't like guessing at what you have done.Nobody said it was your card he said to scrub and reinstall your drivers for the card two different things. steam://support/?Issues=* Did you look for the mdmp file? __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL.

09-14-2008, 06:23 AM	#7
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	Same thing just happened to me. I first loaded up FF after dling ksour, then went into a listen server and fucked around for a bit. I quit that, then joined another server with a few people in it that were on ksour as well, played till map time ran out, then I joined the gass chamber server which was on aardvark, and I got the black screen + hl2 error. I'll try updating my drivers, but this is starting to look like a reoccurring issue. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

09-14-2008, 12:22 AM	#4
Davelife Join Date: Sep 2008 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I have a good graphic card so it's not it.

09-14-2008, 01:48 PM	#8
Davelife Join Date: Sep 2008 Gametype: Capture the Flag Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	okay I have a pentium 4 3g proccesor and I'm using an NVIDIA GeForce 7600 Graphics card

09-14-2008, 06:09 PM	#9
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	How much ram and what DX level is your game set to? And what have you tried and what were the results? Please list. 1) I have tried blah blah blah no change 2) blah blah blah no change Other wise we just have to guess and it's like a cluster fuck wonder what you have and haven't done. So far we don't know if you have or haven't done any of the above suggestions. So help us help you follow the suggestions even if you don't think thats it and List the Results. __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL. Last edited by [AE] 82694; 09-14-2008 at 06:14 PM.

09-14-2008, 09:34 PM	#10
Nelson340 Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Territorial Control Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Weird, that system requirements test said that I needed drivers from July 20th, 2006. Also, I have this problem, but my drivers are from two years later.

09-15-2008, 12:07 AM	#13
Nelson340 Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Territorial Control Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The back of my gfx card's box uses screenshots from COD4 to show its technology. (The card's, not the game's.) That makes me think it's newer. (BTW, in case you're wondering, it's a Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT with overclocking from BFG.)

09-16-2008, 01:52 AM	#16
Nelson340 Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Territorial Control Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I cleaned up my drivers and installed new ones, but I still get a crash. On the plus side, however, it took longer than usual to crash.

09-16-2008, 03:29 AM	#17
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Nelson340 post some system specs please so we know what we are working with. proccesor ram nvida 9600 gt Also are you over clocking it? is the cooling fan running on your 9600? Try all default card settings if you are over clocking it. __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL. Last edited by [AE] 82694; 09-16-2008 at 03:41 AM.

09-16-2008, 12:31 PM	#18
Nelson340 Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Territorial Control Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Processor: Intel Pentium D w/ 2.66 ghz per core RAM: 1 GB Yes, the cooling fan is running on it. Also, I'm not really overclocking it, it came with it out of the box.

02-20-2009, 01:05 AM	#20
Nelson340 Join Date: Sep 2008 Class/Position: Soldier Gametype: Territorial Control Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Forgive me for thread revival, but this is starting to happen in other Source games. My reported victims: Half-Life 2 Synergy Garry's Mod Counter-Strike Source SMod (rarest of all) Team Fortress 2 This has also been happening if I bump the settings down. Oh, and where could I get 2GB of RAM for a cheap price? I'm starting to think that that's the problem.

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