Perfectionism Vs. Community - Page 3

Fail · 05-21-2007, 12:20 AM

Stop making these dumb arguements to try to get your greedy hands on an unfinished version of FF. Jesus fucking Christ.

PsYcNeT · 05-21-2007, 12:21 AM

Exactly. I'd say the fact alone that we will see at least 6-7 very well done community maps (large, small, and gimmick) finalized within a month of release should allay any worries people may have with the 'official' map list.

(Which reminds me, BUMMY! GET FUCKING COLOSSUS DONE CUZ I WANNA PLAY IT NOW!!!!! Please?)

BumGravy · 05-21-2007, 02:42 AM

Code:

models                  49/1024         2352/49152    ( 4.8%) 
brushes               6920/8192        83040/98304    (84.5%) VERY FULL!
brushsides           56806/65536      454448/524288   (86.7%) VERY FULL!

It's 84.5-86.7% complete. (Back on the topic of perfectionism.)

Lost · 05-21-2007, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous

So maybe all hope isn't Lost on the FF front

I'm here!

Circuitous · 05-21-2007, 03:16 AM

I rescind my previous comment. Hope is officially lost.

fbw · 05-21-2007, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous

I rescind my previous comment. Hope is officially lost.

And his name is Lost, too... or is that a pun that I thought I was the only one to get but it was actually just going over my head?

Circuitous · 05-21-2007, 04:54 AM

-------> the joke
\o/ <--fbw

05-21-2007, 12:04 PM

What can I say?

Formaldehyde · 05-21-2007, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous

IF FF WERE RELEASED TODAY, WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE?

(...)

Basically, the game would suck as much as every other unfinished beta ever released for Source, maybe worse. It wouldn't build a community. Half of the people here would likely leave.

It's just... it's not done. Okay?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost, in another thread

But dammit, we're so close too, we had a 3 hour playtest yesterday without finding a single major bug. Cornfield is just a fuckin fragfest, insane and fun, so is cz2 now.

According to Circ, you can't play the game for 5 minutes without running into some serious crippling bug, and there's still months of work left to be done.

According to Lost, you can play for hours on end and have tons of fun and it sound pretty much ready for release.

So... which one is it? 3+ months or 3+ weeks?

Beetle · 05-21-2007, 04:03 PM

A few posts after Circ said that, some dev member corrected him saying that they hardly ever crash now for that reason.

GhOsT · 05-21-2007, 04:06 PM

Crashing aside there's still stuff that isn't finished yet. They talked about the maps someplace else which is a big thing.

Sh4x · 05-21-2007, 04:17 PM

Formaldehyde, if there were more people to play 3v3s I'd be playing all the time. The game is already alot more fun than TFC to me and it feels pretty polished right now so don't worry it's getting better and better every week.

I don't know what the problem is with shutdown2 but imo it's fucking amazing and 100% finished. Of course there is always something you can add or polish further so that's probably why mulch didn't mention it in the 100% finished maps but still, it looks 100% finished to me.

Push, cz2, dustbowl and shutdown2 all have a really polished feel to them.

Jiggles · 05-21-2007, 04:18 PM

The maps are an issue, but I think we'd still release with only 3 maps totally ready. Heck, Valve has released games with less

mistermojo · 05-21-2007, 04:55 PM

I was expecting better maps though

PsYcNeT · 05-21-2007, 05:12 PM

I'd say Well is pretty damn close to 100% too from the overall look/feel of it.

And what better maps were you expecting? 2fort? Blech. I've been sick of 2fort since 1998

Stephen · 05-21-2007, 05:43 PM

/stares enviously at beta testers

mistermojo · 05-21-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I'd say Well is pretty damn close to 100% too from the overall look/feel of it.

And what better maps were you expecting? 2fort? Blech. I've been sick of 2fort since 1998

openfire, schtop, destroy, all those league maps

I dont know anyone who actually liked playing push, dustbowl or cz2

GhOsT · 05-21-2007, 06:07 PM

I like all those maps

mistermojo · 05-21-2007, 06:13 PM

don't get me wrong, I appreciate all the hard work, and push, cz2, dustbowl will be kind of fun, I was just expecting more than 2 CTF maps, especially since one of them is well.

Jiggles · 05-21-2007, 06:24 PM

That's still more than TF2

05-21-2007, 02:42 AM	#43
BumGravy Black Cyclops Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Code: models 49/1024 2352/49152 ( 4.8%) brushes 6920/8192 83040/98304 (84.5%) VERY FULL! brushsides 56806/65536 454448/524288 (86.7%) VERY FULL! It's 84.5-86.7% complete. (Back on the topic of perfectionism.)

05-21-2007, 03:16 AM	#45
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I rescind my previous comment. Hope is officially lost. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-21-2007, 04:54 AM	#47
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	-------> the joke \o/ <--fbw __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-21-2007, 12:20 AM	#41
Fail Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Stop making these dumb arguements to try to get your greedy hands on an unfinished version of FF. Jesus fucking Christ.

05-21-2007, 12:21 AM	#42
PsYcNeT Black Chancellor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Exactly. I'd say the fact alone that we will see at least 6-7 very well done community maps (large, small, and gimmick) finalized within a month of release should allay any worries people may have with the 'official' map list. (Which reminds me, BUMMY! GET FUCKING COLOSSUS DONE CUZ I WANNA PLAY IT NOW!!!!! Please?)

05-21-2007, 12:04 PM	#48
Nigel Mainsail Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	What can I say?

05-21-2007, 04:03 PM	#50
Beetle Beta than eva' Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	A few posts after Circ said that, some dev member corrected him saying that they hardly ever crash now for that reason.

05-21-2007, 04:06 PM	#51
GhOsT Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Crashing aside there's still stuff that isn't finished yet. They talked about the maps someplace else which is a big thing.

05-21-2007, 04:17 PM	#52
Sh4x Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Formaldehyde, if there were more people to play 3v3s I'd be playing all the time. The game is already alot more fun than TFC to me and it feels pretty polished right now so don't worry it's getting better and better every week. I don't know what the problem is with shutdown2 but imo it's fucking amazing and 100% finished. Of course there is always something you can add or polish further so that's probably why mulch didn't mention it in the 100% finished maps but still, it looks 100% finished to me. Push, cz2, dustbowl and shutdown2 all have a really polished feel to them.

05-21-2007, 04:18 PM	#53
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The maps are an issue, but I think we'd still release with only 3 maps totally ready. Heck, Valve has released games with less

05-21-2007, 04:55 PM	#54
mistermojo the pumps dont work Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I was expecting better maps though

05-21-2007, 05:12 PM	#55
PsYcNeT Black Chancellor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'd say Well is pretty damn close to 100% too from the overall look/feel of it. And what better maps were you expecting? 2fort? Blech. I've been sick of 2fort since 1998

05-21-2007, 05:43 PM	#56
Stephen Sniper hater. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	/stares enviously at beta testers

05-21-2007, 06:07 PM	#58
GhOsT Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I like all those maps

05-21-2007, 06:13 PM	#59
mistermojo the pumps dont work Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	don't get me wrong, I appreciate all the hard work, and push, cz2, dustbowl will be kind of fun, I was just expecting more than 2 CTF maps, especially since one of them is well.

05-21-2007, 06:24 PM	#60
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	That's still more than TF2

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