(Released) ff_hold

A1win · 12-15-2007, 10:43 PM

Hold

Download - Unzip to your FortressForever directory!

ff_hold.zip (8.95 MB)
ff_hold.zip (8.95 MB - www.asseater.org, thanks 82694!)

Introduction

I wanted to create a map which plays well even with a small number of players, and so it does. You just simply can't avoid action in this map (at least not by accident), as everyone is running after the same flag in the middle of the area. Getting and holding the flag doesn't simply just give you score, but it also increases your damage to 400% (Quad Damage) and gives you a nice health and armor regeneration. That should give you enough motivation to push towards the only objective in this map: Pick up the flag, hold it and kill everyone who tries to stop you and your team.

Gameplay

Type: King of the Hill
Flags: 1
Teams: 4
Classes: 9

The gameplay of the map is almost identical to Murderball, at the exception of the area at the middle of the map where the flag must be held. Because of that, the gameplay could be better described as "King of the Hill". The area has a border marked with yellow-black hazard stripes and should be easily recognizable. If you exit the area, you will start taking some burn damage and the flag will return to the middle after 10 seconds. You can also hold the flag on the roofs of the four small buildings, which are marked with hazard stripes aswell.

The player who is holding the flag awards 1 score to his team every 10 seconds, 100 Fortress Points to himself and 50 Fortress Points to all of his team members. The player also regenerates health and armor quite fast and has Quad Damage (400% damage against enemies, not self).

Tips

You can hold the flag outside the Hold Area for maximum of 10 seconds before the flag returns to the middle. This should be usefull for scouts and anyone who's trying to avoid combat.
Knowing this, you can be sure that the flag holder will need to visit the Hold Area at least once every 10 seconds. If you can't see him, just look around until you spot him in the middle or on the roofs.
You gain score all the time when holding the flag, even when concing in the air.
Use EMPs against pyros or feel the burn!
Your sentry gun will also gain Quad Damage when you are holding the flag.
There are healthkits located in the basements of the four small buildings around the Hold Area and small armor+ammo packs inside the top floor of the buildings.
Four grenade packs are located under the water at the middle of the map, each providing some ammo and one of each grenades.

Screenshots (Click for high-res version)

If the pics don't show, the server is probably down. It'll come back up eventually.

Known Problems

When a player downloads the map from the server, all of the five .wav files don't always download properly. The files are defined in the ff_hold.res file and I have no idea how to fix this.
The flag texture is defined by a .vmt file that is included in the ff_hold.bsp using BSPZip. Sometimes after alt-tabbing, the flag texture reverts to the normal green flag texture. This can be fixed by using a custom flag model, but I don't know how to edit HL2 models. If someone who knows would be so kind and make one, it'd be for the good of all mankind and I'd really appreciate it.
If you try to host the map on your server without the ff_hold.lua file or with a broken lua file, the server will crash when you walk through the respawn room force fields. This is because of a trigger_remove that's used to remove grenades, rockets etc. So don't host it without the lua file.

Feedback

If there's anything at all bothering you in the map, comment it in this thread or send me a PM here or on IRC. The gameplay has been tested with only 6 players, so it can be quite chaotic with 20 players or so. If you get to play this with many players, I'd like to hear how it plays.

Notes

The lua file of this map (ff_hold.lua) is well-commented and might be useful for other mappers to learn more about Lua. I'll upload the lua file seperately on my website, and try to keep it up to date if I make any changes to it after the release.

ff_hold.lua (version 1.0, 16th December 2007)

The custom flag texture (flag_neutral_test.vtf) in this map is made by DiCola. To get it working in a map, you need to include a custom flag_green.vmt file to your map using BSPZip, and use the green skin of the flag model.

The required files and instructions (bspzip.txt) are located here: http://a1win.pp.fi/files/hl2/ff/. You can also extract the flag_green.vmt from ff_hold.bsp using BSPZip.

GeoKill-----> · 12-16-2007, 07:59 AM

Wow this seems like an awesome map.
Hope too see this map on servers soon.

[AE] 82694 · 12-16-2007, 04:16 PM

Here is your mirror hoe

. I'll get it put up on the AE server today.

I pulled the link. One problem the flag doesn't have textures. Might want to check your files.Everything in your zip was uploaded to the fast DL.

Dr.Satan · 12-16-2007, 09:05 PM

I'll add this to the map pack once that is fixed!

A1win · 12-16-2007, 09:49 PM

The flag's VMT file is included in the BSP with BSPZip and the flag's VTF file is in materials/ff_hold/ folder called flag_neutral_test.vtf. If you're missing the vtf file from that folder, then I've probably uploaded the wrong zip file... Could you check if the vtf file is in the zip?

No one else has said anything about missing textures after I fixed it last time.

If this is a problem with using BSPZip to include textures, then I need someone to make me a new flag model that has the custom texture on it. I have no idea how to do that.

edit: I downloaded the zip from your server and checked both texture files. They should be ok, and it's working for me and others who I've played with. It could be a problem with the game properly loading the texture from the bsp file... But then again, if it didn't, the flag's texture should be green, not missing completely.

Could someone else confirm that the texture is missing if it is?

[AE] 82694 · 12-16-2007, 10:46 PM

Ok I found the problem it was a bad up load to the server. Once I new the file to look for It was an easy fix. I just didn't want to send out a bad file so here is the mirror again.

ff_hold.zip

Thanks for the help I also put it into the rotation.Lets see what kind of play it gets now that it's a final. Thanks for the help.

Edit: At the Doc is it in yet?

12-15-2007, 10:43 PM	#1
A1win Nutcracker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kuopio, Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	[Release] ff_hold Hold Download - Unzip to your FortressForever directory! ff_hold.zip (8.95 MB) ff_hold.zip (8.95 MB - www.asseater.org, thanks 82694!) Introduction I wanted to create a map which plays well even with a small number of players, and so it does. You just simply can't avoid action in this map (at least not by accident), as everyone is running after the same flag in the middle of the area. Getting and holding the flag doesn't simply just give you score, but it also increases your damage to 400% (Quad Damage) and gives you a nice health and armor regeneration. That should give you enough motivation to push towards the only objective in this map: Pick up the flag, hold it and kill everyone who tries to stop you and your team. Gameplay Type: King of the Hill Flags: 1 Teams: 4 Classes: 9 The gameplay of the map is almost identical to Murderball, at the exception of the area at the middle of the map where the flag must be held. Because of that, the gameplay could be better described as "King of the Hill". The area has a border marked with yellow-black hazard stripes and should be easily recognizable. If you exit the area, you will start taking some burn damage and the flag will return to the middle after 10 seconds. You can also hold the flag on the roofs of the four small buildings, which are marked with hazard stripes aswell. The player who is holding the flag awards 1 score to his team every 10 seconds, 100 Fortress Points to himself and 50 Fortress Points to all of his team members. The player also regenerates health and armor quite fast and has Quad Damage (400% damage against enemies, not self). Tips You can hold the flag outside the Hold Area for maximum of 10 seconds before the flag returns to the middle. This should be usefull for scouts and anyone who's trying to avoid combat. Knowing this, you can be sure that the flag holder will need to visit the Hold Area at least once every 10 seconds. If you can't see him, just look around until you spot him in the middle or on the roofs. You gain score all the time when holding the flag, even when concing in the air. Use EMPs against pyros or feel the burn! Your sentry gun will also gain Quad Damage when you are holding the flag. There are healthkits located in the basements of the four small buildings around the Hold Area and small armor+ammo packs inside the top floor of the buildings. Four grenade packs are located under the water at the middle of the map, each providing some ammo and one of each grenades. Screenshots (Click for high-res version) If the pics don't show, the server is probably down. It'll come back up eventually. Known Problems When a player downloads the map from the server, all of the five .wav files don't always download properly. The files are defined in the ff_hold.res file and I have no idea how to fix this. The flag texture is defined by a .vmt file that is included in the ff_hold.bsp using BSPZip. Sometimes after alt-tabbing, the flag texture reverts to the normal green flag texture. This can be fixed by using a custom flag model, but I don't know how to edit HL2 models. If someone who knows would be so kind and make one, it'd be for the good of all mankind and I'd really appreciate it. If you try to host the map on your server without the ff_hold.lua file or with a broken lua file, the server will crash when you walk through the respawn room force fields. This is because of a trigger_remove that's used to remove grenades, rockets etc. So don't host it without the lua file. Feedback If there's anything at all bothering you in the map, comment it in this thread or send me a PM here or on IRC. The gameplay has been tested with only 6 players, so it can be quite chaotic with 20 players or so. If you get to play this with many players, I'd like to hear how it plays. Notes The lua file of this map (ff_hold.lua) is well-commented and might be useful for other mappers to learn more about Lua. I'll upload the lua file seperately on my website, and try to keep it up to date if I make any changes to it after the release. ff_hold.lua (version 1.0, 16th December 2007) The custom flag texture (flag_neutral_test.vtf) in this map is made by DiCola. To get it working in a map, you need to include a custom flag_green.vmt file to your map using BSPZip, and use the green skin of the flag model. The required files and instructions (bspzip.txt) are located here: http://a1win.pp.fi/files/hl2/ff/. You can also extract the flag_green.vmt from ff_hold.bsp using BSPZip. Last edited by A1win; 09-19-2008 at 10:15 PM.

12-16-2007, 07:59 AM	#2
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Wow this seems like an awesome map. Hope too see this map on servers soon. __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

12-16-2007, 04:16 PM	#3
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Here is your mirror hoe . I'll get it put up on the AE server today. I pulled the link. One problem the flag doesn't have textures. Might want to check your files.Everything in your zip was uploaded to the fast DL. __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL. Last edited by [AE] 82694; 12-16-2007 at 08:48 PM.

12-16-2007, 09:05 PM	#4
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	I'll add this to the map pack once that is fixed! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

12-16-2007, 09:49 PM	#5
A1win Nutcracker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kuopio, Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The flag's VMT file is included in the BSP with BSPZip and the flag's VTF file is in materials/ff_hold/ folder called flag_neutral_test.vtf. If you're missing the vtf file from that folder, then I've probably uploaded the wrong zip file... Could you check if the vtf file is in the zip? No one else has said anything about missing textures after I fixed it last time. If this is a problem with using BSPZip to include textures, then I need someone to make me a new flag model that has the custom texture on it. I have no idea how to do that. edit: I downloaded the zip from your server and checked both texture files. They should be ok, and it's working for me and others who I've played with. It could be a problem with the game properly loading the texture from the bsp file... But then again, if it didn't, the flag's texture should be green, not missing completely. Could someone else confirm that the texture is missing if it is? Last edited by A1win; 12-16-2007 at 10:03 PM.

12-16-2007, 10:46 PM	#6
[AE] 82694 Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ok I found the problem it was a bad up load to the server. Once I new the file to look for It was an easy fix. I just didn't want to send out a bad file so here is the mirror again. ff_hold.zip Thanks for the help I also put it into the rotation.Lets see what kind of play it gets now that it's a final. Thanks for the help. Edit: At the Doc is it in yet? __________________ I Love GenghisTron . I miss you sooooo Much. LOL.

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