phpbb and gamers/clans/ff

Scuzzy · 07-20-2007, 11:52 AM

I know there are many flavors of php out there. Some people have expressed interest in our vbulletin-->forum link and are curious about porting it over to phpbb to help them limit spammers and idiots.

If I wanted to make such a port, what version would be the best to start with? Is there a general phpbb type plugin that will usually fit in any version of phpbb? Do they all use generally the same global db structure and objects? etc etc etc.

Thanks,
Scuzzy

Mad_Clog · 07-20-2007, 02:01 PM

phpbb isn't spam proof either.
I manage a forum which gets 5 to 10 fake users signed up each day.
And about 3 threads a day about pills and porn...

Thats with user validation and captcha turned on.

If you really want to stop spammers you have to alter the sign up process to something which ain't common.

nodnarb · 07-20-2007, 10:47 PM

I would go with phpbb3 as it is brand new. The only problems with it is that it is only in RC3. =/

watch · 07-21-2007, 01:00 AM

I had similar problems with spam on my phpbb forum, now I just have both validation + captcha turned off and use something along the lines of this:

http://boonedocks.net/mike/archives/...-Question.html

Haven't had any problems since

StatisticZ · 07-21-2007, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad_Clog

phpbb isn't spam proof either.
I manage a forum which gets 5 to 10 fake users signed up each day.
And about 3 threads a day about pills and porn...

Thats with user validation and captcha turned on.

If you really want to stop spammers you have to alter the sign up process to something which ain't common.

I run on vBulletin and get the same shit.. You really have to watch what sites you goto tbh.. I was on here one day when that one spam bot posted in general discussion about couple fucks or some shit iunno, BUT literally, the next day the same bot signed up on my site. Same name and all.

Iggy · 07-21-2007, 04:30 AM

Maybe you should ask(or, I could...now that I think of it...) the creator of the Widownet forums. See what he uses for account creation. He verifies all users before they are granted access...which you can expect, given the subject matter.

Tennovan · 07-21-2007, 04:36 AM

As suggested before, I'd be willing to help with the programming.

Circuitous · 07-21-2007, 05:05 AM

I've got a thing telling anyone who recently registered to IM or e-mail me to be activated.

I get like one new member a month, so it's not that big of a deal.

Tennovan · 07-21-2007, 06:09 PM

Seems to me that image validation doesn't work because spammers either a) use scripts to read the source for the validation code or b) put them in by hand. Any easy work around is to encode the validation in the source and then either encode the user's input or decode the validation when making the check. This way, the correct validation code isn't visible anywhere but the image. Furthermore, I think Scuzzy requires members to have played on the server in order to register, right? That at least makes it difficult for spammers to register via scripts.

I could probably think of something better given the time.

gizmofo · 07-21-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuzzy

Thanks,
Scuzzy

Completely off topic- You end your posts with a signature... why not just use that as your signature?

Tennovan · 07-21-2007, 07:42 PM

Other forums have rules against this (HardForum for example) but I think some people are just used to doing it.

Digital_Ghost · 07-21-2007, 11:38 PM

Yea thats how Scuzzy has the forums set up. You must have logged into the servers "x" amount of time i think in order to register with the forums. Then each players steamid is linked with thier forum account.

Scuzzy · 07-22-2007, 03:27 AM

Yeah, In order to register in the forums you have to have played on our game server in the last 3 days from the same IP address. It associates the steam-id from that IP address with the forum account. Each steam-id can have one and only one forum account. If you've been banned from the servers it shows you your steam-id and that you've been banned, but does not allow you to register with the forums and points you to the banned inquiry form. We've never had a spammer get past that.

Scuzzy

Scuzzy · 07-22-2007, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gizmofo

Completely off topic- You end your posts with a signature... why not just use that as your signature?

Because I'm an old BitNet user who can't break the habbit.

**mervaka** · 07-23-2007, 09:13 PM

that works well, because:

a) its unique to your website
b) it requires a SteamID (which are not worth spammers buying tbfh)

[/captainobvious]

07-24-2007, 08:50 AM

Well running Vbulletin, + captcha, + nospam + email validation seems to work for me.

Loader · 07-24-2007, 08:53 AM

PHPBB... All I can say is lol.

worst thing ever.

nodnarb · 07-24-2007, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loader

PHPBB... All I can say is lol.

worst thing ever.

The new one is quite nice. And if your poor like me, well...

Ihmhi · 07-24-2007, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loader

PHPBB... All I can say is lol.

worst thing ever.

I just kind of like how phpbb looks prettier than vbulletin. That and I know it better than vbulletin, so.

Loader · 07-24-2007, 03:32 PM

Theres loads of other free ones available that arn't vbulletin or phpbb.

http://punbb.org/

invision too, theres loads more but forgot their names :<

07-20-2007, 11:52 AM	#1
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	phpbb and gamers/clans/ff I know there are many flavors of php out there. Some people have expressed interest in our vbulletin-->forum link and are curious about porting it over to phpbb to help them limit spammers and idiots. If I wanted to make such a port, what version would be the best to start with? Is there a general phpbb type plugin that will usually fit in any version of phpbb? Do they all use generally the same global db structure and objects? etc etc etc. Thanks, Scuzzy __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

07-20-2007, 02:01 PM	#2
Mad_Clog Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	phpbb isn't spam proof either. I manage a forum which gets 5 to 10 fake users signed up each day. And about 3 threads a day about pills and porn... Thats with user validation and captcha turned on. If you really want to stop spammers you have to alter the sign up process to something which ain't common. Last edited by Mad_Clog; 07-20-2007 at 02:07 PM.

07-21-2007, 05:05 AM	#8
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I've got a thing telling anyone who recently registered to IM or e-mail me to be activated. I get like one new member a month, so it's not that big of a deal. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

07-22-2007, 03:27 AM	#13
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Yeah, In order to register in the forums you have to have played on our game server in the last 3 days from the same IP address. It associates the steam-id from that IP address with the forum account. Each steam-id can have one and only one forum account. If you've been banned from the servers it shows you your steam-id and that you've been banned, but does not allow you to register with the forums and points you to the banned inquiry form. We've never had a spammer get past that. Scuzzy __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

07-23-2007, 09:13 PM	#15
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	that works well, because: a) its unique to your website b) it requires a SteamID (which are not worth spammers buying tbfh) [/captainobvious] __________________ Support FF:

07-20-2007, 10:47 PM	#3
nodnarb Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	I would go with phpbb3 as it is brand new. The only problems with it is that it is only in RC3. =/

07-21-2007, 01:00 AM	#4
watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I had similar problems with spam on my phpbb forum, now I just have both validation + captcha turned off and use something along the lines of this: http://boonedocks.net/mike/archives/...-Question.html Haven't had any problems since

07-21-2007, 04:36 AM	#7
Tennovan The one and only Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	As suggested before, I'd be willing to help with the programming.

07-21-2007, 06:09 PM	#9
Tennovan The one and only Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Seems to me that image validation doesn't work because spammers either a) use scripts to read the source for the validation code or b) put them in by hand. Any easy work around is to encode the validation in the source and then either encode the user's input or decode the validation when making the check. This way, the correct validation code isn't visible anywhere but the image. Furthermore, I think Scuzzy requires members to have played on the server in order to register, right? That at least makes it difficult for spammers to register via scripts. I could probably think of something better given the time.

07-21-2007, 07:42 PM	#11
Tennovan The one and only Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Other forums have rules against this (HardForum for example) but I think some people are just used to doing it.

07-21-2007, 11:38 PM	#12
Digital_Ghost Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NB,Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yea thats how Scuzzy has the forums set up. You must have logged into the servers "x" amount of time i think in order to register with the forums. Then each players steamid is linked with thier forum account.

07-24-2007, 08:50 AM	#16
mosimo Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Well running Vbulletin, + captcha, + nospam + email validation seems to work for me.

07-24-2007, 08:53 AM	#17
Loader >_< Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portsmouth, England, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	PHPBB... All I can say is lol. worst thing ever.

07-24-2007, 03:32 PM	#20
Loader >_< Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portsmouth, England, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Theres loads of other free ones available that arn't vbulletin or phpbb. http://punbb.org/ invision too, theres loads more but forgot their names :<

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