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Old 01-30-2008, 01:53 PM   #1
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"Trident" concept

This is just an idea I had - not sure it's a good one, but I figure I'd share it and get some feedback on it at least, perhaps even hone it into a half decent idea

The initial premise of it would be that there would be 3 teams and 3 bases. Initially, the bases would be uncontrolled, and all players would spawn away from the bases, leading to a rush to capture a base.

Once you have a base, the focus would switch to capturing the other bases, whilst defending the ones you have. A win would be acheived by capturing all 3 at the same time, with a major points boost for doing so.

In terms of capturing the bases, my first thought was to have flags spawn in the middle of the map, one specifically for each base, and shared between the teams. These flags would return instantly when dropped. Either that, or a Warpath-style "no flag required", but I think that would likely make it too easy to capture the base.

I think the main problem with it would be balancing the defensive capabilities of the bases properly. They'd likely need to be set up to be quite easily defendable, as much of the team would be out capturing the other bases. It'd be aukward to get right, thats for sure...


Anyways, any thoughts anyone has are welcome
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:46 PM   #2
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I like it, sounds like it would be an interesting and fun new concept.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:13 PM   #3
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What happens to the people's spawns once you capture a base? Do they spawn in the center or would they spawn in their home base? Or what happens if you get a 2nd base? Would the spawn be split? That'd be sorta cool to randomly spawn at either base. What would happen to a team that didn't have a base? Just pure offense on a single base to try and get one back?

3 teams would make it a map of maximum 21 people, 7 per team, you're right defense would have to be pretty easy to even think about trying to take the final base.

You would probably want a slow timer for holding a base, so the team doesn't accumulate a ton of points while a baseless team can't get anything. That way there's more back and forth action without anyone really turtling, to give that extra incentive to really try and capture all 3 bases. Perhaps give a small bonus per capture then a slow timer for holding, and a massive bonus for all 3.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:22 PM   #4
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What happens to the people's spawns once you capture a base? Do they spawn in the center or would they spawn in their home base? Or what happens if you get a 2nd base? Would the spawn be split? That'd be sorta cool to randomly spawn at either base. What would happen to a team that didn't have a base? Just pure offense on a single base to try and get one back?
I think thats pretty much the best way to do it, yeah. Spawning at bases, split between captured bases. As for a team with no base, they'd just spawn back at the start, and (organised team permitting ) would be all out against one base I guess, so pretty much as you said.

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You would probably want a slow timer for holding a base, so the team doesn't accumulate a ton of points while a baseless team can't get anything. That way there's more back and forth action without anyone really turtling, to give that extra incentive to really try and capture all 3 bases. Perhaps give a small bonus per capture then a slow timer for holding, and a massive bonus for all 3.
I was thinking just flat points (10, 25 or something like that) for capturing a base, and nothing else, aside from capture of all 3, but that would work too I guess. Turtling is definitly something to try and avoid though.
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The only problem with set points for a capture is that if a two teams go back and forth on a base you could see the two teams accumulate a ton of points while the 3rd team holding and not making it the final inch to cap will receive nothing.

So a small bonus per cap like 5 points, and maybe like 5 points per 30 seconds for holding. That way you'd have to hold a single base for a whole minute to get 10 extra points, where as capturing a new base just gives a small perk, but the real incentive would be to hold the base and your other one.

Then some massive bonus for getting all 3, something like 50 points because I'd imagine it would be seriously hard to do with only 7 people vs 14 at that point heh.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:23 PM   #6
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Yeah, I get what your saying. Probably would work better.
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A further idea for this gamemode I had, last night... A Quad Damage Panel in each base.

Obviously, not constant, but requiring co-operation between players. Say, an Engineer needs to wrench cells into it for it to work. It could only operate for say, 10-15 seconds consecutivly - any more and it goes boom for a minute taking out whoever is on it, and the engineer who's powering it?

Possibly also prone to spy sabotage in some way.

Just a thought, probably not a good one, but meh
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You could add to the concept by putting things like traps or doors in, like pull a lever and the pathway to one base has a huge metal gate slam down in front of it for 30 seconds.

Not having to worry about one of your bases for 30 seconds could give a struggling team the extra benefit to push for that next one. Switches should have a cooldown, of course... maybe 1:30 or so?

Edit: The center yard must have a giant statue of Poseidon. MUST.
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You could add to the concept by putting things like traps or doors in, like pull a lever and the pathway to one base has a huge metal gate slam down in front of it for 30 seconds.

Not having to worry about one of your bases for 30 seconds could give a struggling team the extra benefit to push for that next one. Switches should have a cooldown, of course... maybe 1:30 or so?
Could work, wouldn't be my first choice, but likely easier to balance than any idea I've had


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Would be amazing, but it's only likely if we're all still around for FF 54.25 in the year 2168. I can barely map, never mind modelling
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Could always just be a texture picture of Poseidon from the Little Mermaid.
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Could always just be a texture picture of Poseidon from the Little Mermaid.
Or just Ariel herself, guys like eye candy.
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