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Old 06-21-2013, 06:38 PM   #1
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(Request) smaller viewmodels

Does anyone have a compilation of smaller viewmodels (or perhaps pushed back on the z-axis)? This'd be nice to have.

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Old 06-21-2013, 08:31 PM   #2
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i hate to say it but wouldn't that give you an unfair advantage over other players.

we can argue over the significance of the advantage but it still an advantage.
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:09 PM   #3
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You can do r_drawviewmodel 0 anyway so it makes no difference.
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I don't really think it'd be an unfair advantage... :/

But as to why people can't conc aim without models is beyond me. Just learn to conc aim and don't try to take the cheap way out.
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:16 PM   #5
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FF literally shows you where the crosshair actually is, why would you need viewmodels?
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:46 PM   #7
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How could viewmodels even help you concaim?
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For me, the position of the gun as I'm conced gives me an approximation of where my crosshair is. I don't really understand how you can't see that
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Does it actually correspond? For some reason I didn't think it did. I've never used the viewmodel for any conc-aim related purposes, and I don't feel like I've ever seen anyone suggest that you should (in conc-aim tutorials and whatnot). Maybe I'm just insane.
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Does it actually correspond? For some reason I didn't think it did. I've never used the viewmodel for any conc-aim related purposes, and I don't feel like I've ever seen anyone suggest that you should (in conc-aim tutorials and whatnot). Maybe I'm just insane.
It doesn't correspond really. The model moves completely independently of your aim. But if you have it set to a freakish view model fov of 150 (like bees does :P) then part way through the conc affect the tip of your model will drift through your xhair. That's all I've been able to figure out in talking to him and looking at it myself.
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Idk... I rely on my weapon model for the first shot of being conced and I've always hit. I tried playing without models a few times last month and it was terrible I couldn't aim at all for a good 2 seconds till I realigned my aim while shooting. I really have no idea if its psychological or if there really is a trend with being conced along with the model.
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Idk... I rely on my weapon model for the first shot of being conced and I've always hit. I tried playing without models a few times last month and it was terrible I couldn't aim at all for a good 2 seconds till I realigned my aim while shooting. I really have no idea if its psychological or if there really is a trend with being conced along with the model.
I pretty much went through the same thing. I tried it for 2-3 months and I started giving up trying to shotty anyone while conced.
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I pretty much went through the same thing. I tried it for 2-3 months and I started giving up trying to shotty anyone while conced.
wtf you guys can't hit someone while conced. someone hand me my Super shotty.



the old conc system made me sick to stomach i couldn't even look at the screen it was so nauseating. (once or twice when i got conced like 3 or 4 times in a row i actually threw up.)

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wtf you guys can't hit someone while conced. someone hand me my Super shotty.



the old conc system made me sick to stomach i couldn't even look at the screen it was so nauseating. (once or twice when i got conced like 3 or 4 times in a row i actually threw up.)

You misunderstand- without the gun model it was hard to concaim, not that we can't concaim.
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And it's only bees/neon.
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You misunderstand- without the gun model it was hard to concaim, not that we can't concaim.
tbh i don't find it that hard at all and if it were "easy" what would be the point of the conc effect in the first place.
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tbh i don't find it that hard at all and if it were "easy" what would be the point of the conc effect in the first place.
He's not saying it's hard. He's saying that for him personally he can't do it with his view models disabled.

I don't see how having view models helps. I personally don't play with viewmodels. But before you go dusting your epeen in his face, (conc-peen, as it were) you should take a step in his shoes. r_drawviewmodels 0
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now that i get this thread i have one question.



would you do that.
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Why disable view models? Because they're distracting and take up a quarter of your view.
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Why disable view models? Because they're distracting and take up a quarter of your view.
^This.
Normally I'd play without viewmodels but most other games don't require concaim so smaller models would be really nice
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