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Old 08-18-2008, 06:10 PM   #41
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I do not think this will compete with FF, it only will bring more people to FF tbh thx Caesium
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:23 PM   #42
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I do not think this will compete with FF, it only will bring more people to FF tbh thx Caesium
It'll bring more people to FF by taking FF game play and making a mod for TF2 with it? I doubt that
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:03 PM   #43
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tbh imo this will compete with FF, last night i idle in #tf2turbo and guys like rizzo aftershock and other old tfcers here talking about how tfc was 99% spam and this "mode" was the semi dream of old tfcers and about forming a clan of it, getting sponsors and etc. So if the old shcool tfcers play it, lots of other tfcers will too.
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:34 PM   #44
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I'll try it out when the free weekend comes around...
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:11 PM   #45
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I do not think this will compete with FF, it only will bring more people to FF tbh thx Caesium
That's part of the plan, yep (a sort of intro/feeder game for FF), but sadly the chances are it'll make sod all difference I felt I at least had to try though, and I think I've done the best I could under the huge limitations there are.

Btw to the few "OH NOES U TRAITOR11" ppl: what have you personally done to try to help bring the TF gameplay we all want up to date and be popular?.. and levtastic, calling me an asshole doesn't exactly make me want to immediately start working on FF again if that was your goal.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:49 AM   #46
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It'll bring more people to FF by taking FF game play and making a mod for TF2 with it? I doubt that
Skill out turbo and FF game play, you seen the video ? lol the game play mechanism is totally different, 2.1 is a great example for this, you can not compare this because its just different. ATM TF2 is a portal to FF, Turbo mod will only make to step to FF more interesting I think this is a great initiative by Caesium, thx again

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Old 08-19-2008, 03:53 AM   #47
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Skill out turbo and FF game play, you seen the video ? lol the game play mechanism is totally different, 2.1 is a great example for this, you can not compare this because its just different. ATM TF2 is a portal to FF, Turbo mod will only make to step to FF more interesting I think this is a great initiative by Caesium, thx again
I had plans to play FF far before I ever even thought about TF2. A friend bought me the orange box for my birthday, and I do enjoy playing TF2. There is somewhat of an addiction to it for the goofiness that it is, but when I go to play, and get frame rate lag just by being in/near water, I can't continue playing.
FF has packet loss at most for me and that's usually on near full servers. It has a better game play all around, and I don't need to find a server side mod to need to feel that I'm playing the more classic version of a fortress game.
I don't see TF2 as a portal to FF because the game dynamics are different in my opinion. I can't even think to defend myself as easily in TF2 as I can in FF, TFC, and even QWTF if I ever try to find a server for the latter again. I miss that game. Taking gameplay from one mod and translating it into a different game just doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 08-19-2008, 04:14 AM   #48
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calling me an asshole doesn't exactly make me want to immediately start working on FF again if that was your goal.
Hey now, quit being an asshole and work on FF again.

Anyways, I think TF2Turbo's pretty god damn cool.
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:03 AM   #49
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Good job, you've just ruined TF2.
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:10 AM   #50
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Old 08-19-2008, 06:13 AM   #51
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Good job, you've just ruined TF2.
Good job, you've missed the point of TF2Turbo.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:47 PM   #52
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ATM TF2 is a portal to FF
Eh? Is that sort of like how The Sims is a portal to Spore or how UO is a portal to EQ?

TF2 and FF are entirely separate games, even with TF2Turbo. I think it's also false to assume that FF is a step up above TF2. It's not that I think TF2 is better, I don't, it's that the two games are absolutely nothing alike.

I think it's a pretty false hope to think that awesome movement skills in a TF2 mod will make people want to play a completely different game with awesome movement skills. Why would they - it's already in TF2. It would be sort of like if RVR was introduced into WoW and Blizzard stated that it was a portal to those who want a richer RVR experience in Warhammer Online. Why would anyone playing WoW want to go to a game that is similar and offers the same thing that the current game has but in a different flavor?

They wouldn't.

Before, FF wasn't directly competing with TF2 - at least not any more than any other HL2 mod. Now, FF is direct competition with TF2... not that many people will actually be playing the mod.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:15 PM   #53
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Shit, someone just port TFC's skillsets and playstyle to TF2. I'd even play it then. Well, maybe not, but I'd think about playing it then!
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:51 PM   #54
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if someone from FF made this...

you are an asshole.
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:34 PM   #55
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Shit, someone just port TFC's skillsets and playstyle to TF2. I'd even play it then. Well, maybe not, but I'd think about playing it then!
Someone should just port TFC to the source engine.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:30 PM   #56
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Or just play TFC..

Which is what I've been doing.

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Old 08-19-2008, 10:31 PM   #57
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:36 PM   #58
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TF2 has over 2000 servers, i dont think it ruined itself
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:42 PM   #59
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Questions...

1. Did Fortress-Forever make the flame thrower lift in fortress games? Please say no, because if they did, this is a rip off.

2. Was using TF2 turbo as an "intro/feeder" game for FF really "part of the plan?" If so, it seems like an awful lot of work you would do just to get people to play it a while and then *not* play it when they're introduced to FF.

3. Do you really see this as something positive for FF? This is advertising the most discernable difference between TF2 and FF: movement skills. TF2 will now have that. I see less reason TF2 players would have to cross over to FF. Add grenades, and that's pretty much it. I would try it too.

Don't get me wrong, the vid looks like it could be fun. It's faster than normal, and as the description says, that's not even with action. But I don't see how this would be used as some sort of helping game to get people to play an entirely seperate game. It seems like this would further divide FF players and give TF2 players more incentive to stay where they are. Because if they want fast action and jumping skills, they can just play TF2 Turbo. What's worse than an FF elitist?... Maybe we'll find out.



Ultimately, though, if the next FF can deliver and get some good Steam advertisements... guess we'll see.

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Old 08-19-2008, 11:03 PM   #60
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1. Did Fortress-Forever make the flame thrower lift in fortress games? Please say no, because if they did, this is a rip off.
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