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Old 10-28-2008, 01:09 PM   #21
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(everything from much more stand-out and distinctive models to very distinct and "readable" animations to a conc effect that doesn't warp the universe, etc)
I agree so much. The conc warping the universe around it is both very confusing for new players and incredibly annoying. Also, I showed a friend of mine who mods a video of the game (not yours) and he thought that the player models looked HL1 quality.

I think the models and general animation stuffs need a bit of work.
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:17 PM   #22
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Those pipes are the strobe pipes from partials pack.

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Old 10-28-2008, 02:53 PM   #23
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Get us another 5 modellers and animators and we can get started.. at the current pace it'll take a while ;P
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:00 PM   #24
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I just downloaded FF 2.1 yesterday and from what I've played so far it seems that it is a lot more messy than TFC was, that is, in TFC it was much easier to tell wtf was going on. It might be because I'm used to TFC more but since FF isn't so different from TFC I think there is something about FF that makes it indistinct.
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:05 PM   #25
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you're right garland, im not 100% sure what it is, it might be down to playing tfc for so long, but you could just feel yourself in the game and you are totally aware of your surroundings, what you wanted to do and whats going on, don't really know how to convey what i want to say, it's just something in fortress forever just doesn't feel perfect like tfc did.
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:27 PM   #26
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I think part of it is just the difference of the engine. Goldsource / TFC's models and environments were very concrete, solid with sharp edges and distinct borders.

Source / FF is a bit more... slick?
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:14 PM   #27
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It's like that with any game you move over to that the previous game you've solely played for ages, really.

Good stuff Caesium. Love your stuff, I really do.

Edit: I have to watch Skillout and Beyond now. Particularly for dido. Love it.
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:17 PM   #28
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CS 1.6 -> Source feels the same as TFC -> FF for me. I could agree that it's just the source engine that's makes it quite weird to get used to.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:49 PM   #29
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Whatever it is, it might very well be that I'm not used to source but whatever it is, it feels like it makes FF not quite as fun as TFC.
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:46 PM   #30
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It makes me play less Fortress Forever, that is all I can say :P
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:20 PM   #31
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Hmm i dunno.. welcome to 21st century computer games..?
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:01 PM   #32
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I play cpma and warsow (and fortress forever)! :P
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:47 PM   #33
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I think it really does have a lot to do with how Source renders things... there's also a whole lot to be said for our models and textures. They blend. Player textures are about the same res as wall textures, and pretty much everyone is wearing camo. TFC had higher-res player textures against lower-res wall textures for immediate sharpness, and costumes that sharply contrasted against their environment.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:40 PM   #34
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Is it the same for say CS: Source, that the textures are the same res? I find it very easy to make out those models. Well, it's also a much slower game but still...
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Yeah but they don't blend in quite as well either.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:52 PM   #36
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Blending isn't a major issue for me as I use the old TFC models (low-res models against high-res textures). Before it wasn't as big of a deal for me either, although I've heard plenty of other people complain about it... including those I've shown the game.

I think alternative skins for the player models would be nice. Something with less camo and more TF flare. Over the top, easy to see, skins. maybe even some pink helmets for the engineers.
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:02 AM   #37
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His strategies for stow are most appreciated (lol)
lol!

Anyway, nice juking moves there caes.
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:11 AM   #38
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Was fun to conc shotty you and watch you fly over my head on shutdown2 the other day

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Old 10-30-2008, 02:29 PM   #39
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I agree, some nice clips.

We've popped the youtube stream of the vid on our site to try and get it as much coverage as possible. Coverage to show potential players/old TFC players what FF Gameplay has to offer, ultimately introducing more new faces to the scene!
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