POLL: Avanti remake; use new textures or original?

[sir_frags]

Understand before you answer that most of the players in this game are carry-over, old timers from the TFC game. Alot of them are using different names, but the servers up with players are mostly the 2-300 regulars on the TFC servers. And one purpose of making this source version was to make TFCers happy. So my question is about my remaking of the Avanti map. I finished the design and am now doing the textures.

[Credge]

Use the same texture types (city and stuff) but make them better.

[Dr.Uudge]

I would say use different, more vibrant/brighter colors. The TFC avanti was gloomy. And fps sucked too.

[GambiT]

this belongs in the mapping section only, not here and the mapping section.

[Desyphur]

You should not use original TFC textures unless you want to add them in certain places for nostagia and such.

[Icculus]

I agree with the brighter colors being used and a slightly different design would be nice too.

One of the things I like about the official Fortress-Forever maps is that while they are similar enough to the TFC maps to be familiar it's the slight differences that make them interesting imo (Although I do miss the shared backpack in Crossover). Cookie-Cutter maps may appeal to a few but most likely the majority appreciate a new flavor.. Re-arrange the furniture and slap a new coat of paint on.. so to speak.

-Icculus

[s0undch4s3r]

I say keep it original.

Nothing wrong with posting this thread on the General forum. Most people will
see this here rather than Maps. It's the first thing they see when they login
to these forums.

I'd love to see TFC Avanti in FF...yes.

[KubeDawg]

As one of those old TFC players, I think an upgraded texture would work fine, as long as it's similar to the depth of the original, and keep the lighting similar to what it was before as well.

[sir_frags]

Originally Posted by GambiT

this belongs in the mapping section only, not here and the mapping section.

That's not your decision to make Gambit and the topic is "GENERAL" ..and I'd appreciate no more attempts from anyone else to distort thread and throw it off topic.....thank you for your cooperation.




Dang, I was leaning towards doing a combination of old textures and new textures like I've done in other maps. Specifically I was thinking about keeping all the floor, roads, walk ways with the original textures and using new textures on the walls. I was thinking about mixing and matching the roof tops. Anyway, thanks all for replying so far...the poll votes so far seem to be really close.

[Dr.Satan]

Originally Posted by KubeDawg

As one of those old TFC players, I think an upgraded texture would work fine, as long as it's similar to the depth of the original, and keep the lighting similar to what it was before as well.

I too am one of the old TFC players and I completely agree, add some new spice to the map, different look but same basic layout and feel!

[Skanky Butterpuss]

Originally Posted by GambiT

this belongs in the mapping section only, not here and the mapping section.

correct.

moved.

and use whatever textures look the best. if there are customs that look better than regular old source textures, use them, and vice versa. just because it is a remake doesnt mean you have to stick to ugly texturing (some of avantis texturing was pretty ugly)

[sir_frags]

You moved it because.....? Why I care just what mappers think? I want the people who are going to PLAY it to participate in the poll. That's why I had it in the General section and more people would see it there....You guys are going a bit overboard okay, but I guess you can leave it like you got it. I posted another thread in the General section to let the people know where to find the poll....now please leave it alone and go bother someone else. Dude didnt even vote in the poll and you moved my thread cause he ran off his mouth...geeeez

[Desyphur]

That's not what you said with your last maps.

[fishBurger]

oh man, someone offered criticism you'd better negate it because mappers never play!

also, I'd reccommend using purely old textures if you want to be really lazy and churn out a halfassed peice of crap that will be cool for 30 seconds and then make everyone really sad that there isn't an FF worthy version of avanti.

[sir_frags]

Originally Posted by fishBurger

oh man, someone offered criticism you'd better negate it because mappers never play!

also, I'd reccommend using purely old textures if you want to be really lazy and churn out a halfassed peice of crap that will be cool for 30 seconds and then make everyone really sad that there isn't an FF worthy version of avanti.

Lazy? You arent a mapper, eh? You know how long it took to me to get the original textures from the original map and get them over into my Source material folder to where Hammer would find and use them? And the player's models will make it very much like FF.

BTW, unless someone on my ignore list is mouthing off, I haven't seen any criticism in this thread except my reply to the forum leader for moving my thread and the other guy who tried to shut it down. I put up a fair poll and so far I've enjoyed the responses I've gotten.

And there's two times more threads in the General section and that's where most of the members of this forum post. All Gambit and the forum leader did was pretty much shut this poll down by moving it over here in the obscure mapper section. I bet the first 4 people who replied never would have replied if they hadn't seen my thread in the General section.

And thank you all for voting in the poll!!!! 22 votes so far....oh man it looks like I'll be using all Source textures.......


Credge, Dr Uudge, Icculus, SoundCh4s3r, KubeDawg, and Dr. Satan....thanks alot. Hope to see you guys online sometime...I'll frag the heck out ya

[Desyphur]

I guess I "mouthed off"

But you can't read this because you put me on your ignore list :P

[sir_frags]

Originally Posted by Dr.Uudge

I would say use different, more vibrant/brighter colors. The TFC avanti was gloomy. And fps sucked too.

You know Dr. Uudge, one of the first things I did was change the lights and make the map brighter and less gloomy. But now I see others have suggested to keep the lights the same. I guess I should have put that issue in the poll too. But there's really no need now.....in my original post I just talked about the players and never even mentioned mappers LOL..but here we are way over here......

[Ihmhi]

Sweet Moses on a rocket-powered pogo stick, I hope he does not use original textures. Textures from a 10 year old game do not really belong in Fortress Forever.

I wonder if anything in his version of avanti will actually be new or if it will just basically be a port (with explosive barrels and health packs scattered everywhere, of course).

[Desyphur]

Of course. Explosive barrels and health packs for everyone...

<.<;

[GambiT]

Originally Posted by sir_frags

That's not your decision to make Gambit and the topic is "GENERAL" ..and I'd appreciate no more attempts from anyone else to distort thread and throw it off topic.....thank you for your cooperation.

the topic is NOT general as it pertains to a map and you making it, thus it belongs in the "Mapping" area. plenty of ppl comb through the mapping area, and almost always we as mappers get quality feedback, may not be what you want to hear but non the less most ppl here give you good ideas/suggestions.