New Map: RJ Rocketeer *pics* - Page 2

Dr.Satan · 03-02-2008, 10:15 PM

so is this different then shiro or midori?

cownaetion · 03-03-2008, 03:33 AM

It's better than Shiro, not anywhere near Midori. It's a beginner's map, no nades, FF and TF2. Hoping maybe to draw in even just one person from the TF2 society would help. More like advertising

Dr.Satan · 03-03-2008, 04:22 AM

ok but it's not like a remake of shiro or anything right?

Player · 03-03-2008, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWetMule

The current maps aren't supposed to be challenging, no worries though there'll be a couple hard ones soon ;)

Are you making some Fortress Forever skills maps, MRMULE?

(nice blooz jumping, too :P)

cownaetion · 03-03-2008, 11:25 AM

Nope, no remakes, never do. I like new. The first link is to a altered Shiro, increased the dimensions so it's not so damn small, but rckteer is it's own.

pF · 03-03-2008, 01:29 PM

Looks good, will test it in a bit!

Dr.Satan · 03-03-2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cownaetion

Nope, no remakes, never do. I like new. The first link is to a altered Shiro, increased the dimensions so it's not so damn small, but rckteer is it's own.

Ah ok cool...I just needed to know weather or not to update shiro / midori in the map pack...seems I might have to change shiro? That or just make a note of it in the thread (I hate compiling that thing it takes forever!)

Dr.Satan · 03-04-2008, 05:09 PM

So this is completed right? I can add it to the FF Community Map Pack 2?

Dr.Satan · 03-12-2008, 02:44 PM

Played this last night and fucking awesome man...I spent probably like 3min literally try to figure out how the hell to open the door (duh big white button on top!). I didn't get a chance to finish it, cause I had to go to practice, but I did no clip though really quick and I can see me spending a long time on the last jump!

PartialSchism · 03-12-2008, 04:01 PM

Great map, thnx!

cownaetion · 03-13-2008, 02:22 AM

Wow, totally forgot all about this thread, didn't see the posts

I've slowly started the next one and I got a couple TF2 people helping along so hopefully this next one should be coming out not too long since in addition we're all in the process of getting SoTF going. For anyone interested they can see the next set of jumps coming out. Again, no grenades but since the map will be a bit bigger I'll leave Scout/Medic in since I know some of you just love concing regardless the map

Links to the images since their high in res and close to a meg each in size.

http://www.bystudios.info/games/ff/i.../design_1s.jpg
http://www.bystudios.info/games/ff/i.../design_2s.jpg

pF · 03-28-2008, 01:54 PM

Played this just now on the Euroskillz server, 6+ people playing, helping each other etc. Lots of fun, well done

Mr. Happy · 03-28-2008, 09:47 PM

I need an easier map

I've played RJmaps before, back in TFC, five years ago. I can do practical rjumps, in regular maps, so I think if you want to make a beginner rj map it needs to be easier than this.

cownaetion · 03-29-2008, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -pF-

Played this just now on the Euroskillz server, 6+ people playing, helping each other etc. Lots of fun, well done

Wow, glad people are still enjoying this. I got a lot of good feedback from the TF2 community as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

I need an easier map

I'm sorry Happy, but that's as easy as a map I can make, I honestly don't know how to make one any easier

All I can say is practice, practice, practice. When I first started rcktjump back in QWTF I sucked but after enough practice was able to go through the map in literally about a minute. So, yeah, practice I guess? :P

greenday5494 · 03-29-2008, 02:24 AM

agree, i suck.

Desyphur · 03-29-2008, 05:18 AM

Not making a jump where you have to jump down at the water as a solly would be a good start. I just went to Pyro to get it, FT Strafe ftw.

pF · 03-29-2008, 10:44 PM

Yeah.. i didn't know how to do that one (#5?) as soldier either. We tried various things, jumping down and blasting off the ledges/wall to the side, blasting off the opposing wall, rocketing off the water.. but the latter i suck at, so that might be the key?

Mr. Happy · 03-30-2008, 02:07 AM

For that one, (Like a record?) I tihnk you have to do jump to the glass, and then do a downwards backwards angled jump off the glass. Couldn't do it either.

If I was making a map for total beginners to RJumping, rather than beginners to RJump maps, I would take it in slower steps.

For example, even on the first jump, lowering the wall a bit would be good. I've seen people miss that!

And on quadrangular, I would first have a jump that takes only two rockets, then one that takes three, and THEN one that takes four.

For like a dolphin, I would do the same thing. RJumping out of water is really awkward. You want to press forward when facing down and pressing jump at the same time, and then you start bouncing at the top of the water...it's hard for newbs.

For mario style, I would have a jump with one bounce first. Actually, I did mario style without even bouncing back and forth, just wall jumping like you do in quadrangular.

For precision 101, I would make the hole wider.

etc. Ya gotta give beginners lot's of leeway, and teach them slowly. Look at portal, the first puzzle is the stupidest thing in the world: place a box on a button. But without it, people would never know what to do next time they saw a box.

By the way. that tiny tiny little platform in "all together now" is evil!!

Anyway, that's how I would approach a beginner map, not saying you should change what you have or anything, but beginners need their hand held for a little while. You gotta show them what to do, then make it REALLY easy for them to do, reinforce it a few times, then give them the full version.

This map is GREAT though, because it's like individual elements from a harder map, by themselves, instead of "all together now"

Quote:

Originally Posted by cownaetion

All I can say is practice, practice, practice.

Oh totally, I can do about ten or eleven of them right now.

Dr.Satan · 03-30-2008, 10:13 AM

That's exactly what I'm doing for conc_school! And I totally agree...i'm not a newb to rj's but that is pretty tough shit for me man...although I generally only ever played a rj map with quad (TFC) so that's why I struggle...everything I know is wrong in that regard.

Firefox11 · 03-30-2008, 11:24 AM

Like a Record is one of the easiest jumps... You only need to strafe into the hole. I usually rjump to get more speed so it's easier to get in, but you only need to strafe and keep trying.

Never finished the map though, always get stuck in All together now I think, the one with the door, the pillar and the small platforms after the door.

03-02-2008, 10:15 PM	#21
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	so is this different then shiro or midori? __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-03-2008, 04:22 AM	#23
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	ok but it's not like a remake of shiro or anything right? __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-03-2008, 01:29 PM	#26
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Looks good, will test it in a bit! __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

03-04-2008, 05:09 PM	#28
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	So this is completed right? I can add it to the FF Community Map Pack 2? __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-12-2008, 02:44 PM	#29
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	Played this last night and fucking awesome man...I spent probably like 3min literally try to figure out how the hell to open the door (duh big white button on top!). I didn't get a chance to finish it, cause I had to go to practice, but I did no clip though really quick and I can see me spending a long time on the last jump! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-03-2008, 03:33 AM	#22
cownaetion Wizard of Milk Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It's better than Shiro, not anywhere near Midori. It's a beginner's map, no nades, FF and TF2. Hoping maybe to draw in even just one person from the TF2 society would help. More like advertising

03-03-2008, 11:25 AM	#25
cownaetion Wizard of Milk Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Nope, no remakes, never do. I like new. The first link is to a altered Shiro, increased the dimensions so it's not so damn small, but rckteer is it's own.

03-12-2008, 04:01 PM	#30
PartialSchism Keep On Keepin' On Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Class/Position: Offense Gametype: Fun Affiliations: I'm bad at FF, and my customs suck Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Great map, thnx!

03-13-2008, 02:22 AM	#31
cownaetion Wizard of Milk Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Wow, totally forgot all about this thread, didn't see the posts I've slowly started the next one and I got a couple TF2 people helping along so hopefully this next one should be coming out not too long since in addition we're all in the process of getting SoTF going. For anyone interested they can see the next set of jumps coming out. Again, no grenades but since the map will be a bit bigger I'll leave Scout/Medic in since I know some of you just love concing regardless the map Links to the images since their high in res and close to a meg each in size. http://www.bystudios.info/games/ff/i.../design_1s.jpg http://www.bystudios.info/games/ff/i.../design_2s.jpg

03-28-2008, 01:54 PM	#32
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Played this just now on the Euroskillz server, 6+ people playing, helping each other etc. Lots of fun, well done __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

03-28-2008, 09:47 PM	#33
Mr. Happy FF LOL Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I need an easier map I've played RJmaps before, back in TFC, five years ago. I can do practical rjumps, in regular maps, so I think if you want to make a beginner rj map it needs to be easier than this.

03-29-2008, 02:24 AM	#35
greenday5494 Holy shit, thats kerrigan! D&A Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: D, whatever the team needs, usually engy Gametype: AvD Affiliations: None Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	agree, i suck. __________________ http://static.adrive.com/images/ads/...rbo_468x60.gif DAN MAPES!

03-29-2008, 05:18 AM	#36
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Not making a jump where you have to jump down at the water as a solly would be a good start. I just went to Pyro to get it, FT Strafe ftw. __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now.

03-29-2008, 10:44 PM	#37
pF no war but class war Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: big bad berlin Class/Position: Soldier / Scout Gametype: ctf Affiliations: [w~k!] Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Yeah.. i didn't know how to do that one (#5?) as soldier either. We tried various things, jumping down and blasting off the ledges/wall to the side, blasting off the opposing wall, rocketing off the water.. but the latter i suck at, so that might be the key? __________________ Support FF: Gay And Lesbian Fiction \| Teen Books \| Bath Products

03-30-2008, 10:13 AM	#39
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	That's exactly what I'm doing for conc_school! And I totally agree...i'm not a newb to rj's but that is pretty tough shit for me man...although I generally only ever played a rj map with quad (TFC) so that's why I struggle...everything I know is wrong in that regard. __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

03-30-2008, 11:24 AM	#40
Firefox11 Join Date: Dec 2007 Class/Position: O&D: Pyro, Sniper Gametype: AvD Affiliations: FF.AvD [FF AvD/ID guild] Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Like a Record is one of the easiest jumps... You only need to strafe into the hole. I usually rjump to get more speed so it's easier to get in, but you only need to strafe and keep trying. Never finished the map though, always get stuck in All together now I think, the one with the door, the pillar and the small platforms after the door.

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