21 For R Rated Movies?

BinaryLife · 10-25-2007, 04:05 PM

I don't know if anyone else experienced this recently, but a few friends of mine have gotten turned away from specifically 30 Days of Night. Even with 22 year olds with them, they were denied entry at the door, after purchasing their tickets. They were told by Regal that you have be 21 or older to see the movie. No exceptions, even if someone is with you.

The management confirmed as they all complained. I didn't know if this was a PA thing, or a Regal theater being a dick for no reason thing.

I haven't seen the movie yet, so no spoilers please

*Thanks.

[FFM]-AC/DC · 10-25-2007, 04:24 PM

I'm from PA as well, but have not heard of this, although I've never been to that brand of theater. I've always gone to the Carmike cinemas around here.

KubeDawg · 10-25-2007, 04:25 PM

That's utter bullshit. If you can go to war at 18, you should be able to watch gory/graphic movies at 18. Isn't the title 30 Days of Night? See this is another reason why people pirate movies. First it was the cost factor, now the movie theaters are requiring you to be 21 years old? That's the most retarded thing I've heard since they originally made marijuana illegal.

Gigiya · 10-25-2007, 04:51 PM

i'm pretty sure that's not legal if they don't tell you that when you buy the tickets

Bakedbean · 10-25-2007, 05:05 PM

I would say contact Regal corporate and ask about that theater and it policies.
Customer relations number 1-877-835-5734
or
Main office number 1-865-922-1123

Oh BTW the moving ratings is not a law! http://www.filmratings.com/

Nuk3m · 10-25-2007, 05:27 PM

according the the MPAA, in order to view a movie with the rating R, you must be 17 years of age or older to view the movie, and if you are under the age of 17 must be accompanied by a person(s) of the age of 21 or older.

I went through this at my local cinema. I argued with the General Manager of the facility, about this, and after that, the next time i went in there a week later, there were signs posted all over the place about the law. it must have happened a lot because it was a major title being released to theaters that must of gained the attention of minors.

http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp

Gigiya · 10-25-2007, 05:27 PM

i know it's not a law, but if they deviate from the defined standard of 17-years old to get into an R-rated movie, they need to specify that you have to be older to see it at their theater when they sell the tickets.

Nuk3m · 10-25-2007, 05:33 PM

well its not a LAW, but its within the constructs of the movies rating. using the Defined MPAA rating system officially dictates the rules of the film. since the cinema allows the usage of MPAA rated material in their cinema they must apply the rules. or the movie make can sue them for not allowing the general audience in to view their movie.

Mooga · 10-25-2007, 06:06 PM

R is 17. If they didn't let you in and you were 17 you should complain. You might get some free ticks?
Or just tell them that because they are ass holes you are going to go pirate movies from now on.

BinaryLife · 10-25-2007, 06:55 PM

They refunded the tickets that were purchased at the counter. But only because they asked for the manager to complain.

They weren't like this before. I saw The Assassination of Jesse James a week before. That's rate R and I got in fine... granted I look like I'm 40. But still. They didn't even card me.

uBeR · 10-25-2007, 06:57 PM

It's 30 Days of Night, not 40. The movie was alright. I liked the gore, but the story... well it could have been developed.

As for the tickets, well typically they allow 17+ year olds in on their own, but you need to be accompanied by an adult if you're under 17, which is the policy for most theaters. Some of the small ones around here don't really care--if you look old enough or if they know you, they'll let you in.

Either way, it's simply a matter of the theater's policy. So if they say you can't go in if you're under 21, that's their decision, smart or not.

Bakedbean · 10-25-2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uBeR

Either way, it's simply a matter of the theater's policy. So if they say you can't go in if you're under 21, that's their decision, smart or not.

A theater can not make there own rating rules for the age they want to allow in to see the movie. They have to follow what the board rates it as.
I would complain to corporate even though you got your money back.
Unless the state passed a law setting R movies at 21+.

SoBe Green · 10-25-2007, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuk3m

well its not a LAW, but its within the constructs of the movies rating. using the Defined MPAA rating system officially dictates the rules of the film. since the cinema allows the usage of MPAA rated material in their cinema they must apply the rules. or the movie make can sue them for not allowing the general audience in to view their movie.

Any movie theater can reject any patron without refund for any reason. R rating does say any person 17 or older can see the movie. But if you are 17 and lack identification you will be turned away. A movie theater can even go as far to say if you are under 17 and do not have a parent or guardian buying your ticket you can't get in. I know this. I was a Projectionist for 3 years. This isn't a very uncommon thing to happen.

The R rating is 17 or older. The difference in R and NC-17 is that regardless of who is there with you or who bought the ticket you can't get into a a NC-17 movie. The R rating can be enforced as 17+, 18+, or 21+ its never been used for anything else. NC-17 movies rarely see main stream theater play so the R rating becomes a "standard" rating and can vary depending on the theater.

uBeR · 10-25-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakedbean

A theater can not make there own rating rules for the age they want to allow in to see the movie. They have to follow what the board rates it as.

No they don't.

BinaryLife · 10-25-2007, 08:25 PM

You guys shuld watch "This Film is Not Yet Rated."

There aren't really guidlines or standards for the MPAA and their rating systems. They just watch something and make up a rating for it. They also operate with extreme secrecy so that no one can know who they are.

...That said, as far as my understanding of the intended rating system it was that the rating demsonstrates and age guidlines that movie theaters follow. If they find a movie, or a rating to be too much they simply choose not to follow it. It was never law, to my knoweldge, and most movie theaters would allow anyone in so long as they have a parent with them.

CatzEyes93 · 10-25-2007, 09:44 PM

wait a sec... I thought this movie was rated r? If so, then a 17 year old should be able to get in without a parent. If the movie theater doesnt let you in, get your money back and go to the next theater to watch it.

meanwhile... NONE of the ratings indicate anything to do with the age of 21. so if this movie theater is trying to base anything on the rating system, they are out of line and are idiots. Personally I would have pushed it until they admitted that they were rejecting my 17 year old entrance due to personal managment preference and NOT as a result of the suggested rating system.

zSilver_Fox · 10-26-2007, 12:07 AM

If they wish to reject someone under a certain age for a specific movie, they can. Its their right as a business owner to deny you business due to lack of sufficient age as defined by the manager.

YomMamasHouse · 10-26-2007, 12:30 AM

If I'm 18 right now do those people think there is something in that movie that will negatively affect me more than a 21 year old? I don't understand ratings like that, they make it seem like late teens are still innocent and unable to see blood and weapons sex in movies because there is some risk of mentally harming us.

Very silly.

Hawk Eye · 10-26-2007, 01:03 AM

You'd think they could assume that the 6'2 Tall, 200+ lbs bearded guy walking in is over 17. Nope.

[needs to get a photo ID]

Nuk3m · 10-26-2007, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zSilver_Fox

If they wish to reject someone under a certain age for a specific movie, they can. Its their right as a business owner to deny you business due to lack of sufficient age as defined by the manager.

not true. they of course can turn any one away without identification if they deem it necessary. But when the company purchases the right to release a movie in their theater they are tied to contract. If a movie is Rated R, under contract they are obligated to allow the viewers within the guidelines of the MPAA's accepted national rating system. This is not debate, this is truth.

Example, the driving age is 17 in New jersey, but the local DMV says you have to be 19 to get your drivers license. If you don't believe me that is fine, but please understand distribution contracts before you rebuttal.

10-25-2007, 04:05 PM	#1
BinaryLife Posts: 1 bajillion D&A Member Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	21 For R Rated Movies? I don't know if anyone else experienced this recently, but a few friends of mine have gotten turned away from specifically 30 Days of Night. Even with 22 year olds with them, they were denied entry at the door, after purchasing their tickets. They were told by Regal that you have be 21 or older to see the movie. No exceptions, even if someone is with you. The management confirmed as they all complained. I didn't know if this was a PA thing, or a Regal theater being a dick for no reason thing. I haven't seen the movie yet, so no spoilers please Thanks. Last edited by BinaryLife; 10-25-2007 at 07:03 PM.*

10-25-2007, 04:25 PM	#3
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	That's utter bullshit. If you can go to war at 18, you should be able to watch gory/graphic movies at 18. Isn't the title 30 Days of Night? See this is another reason why people pirate movies. First it was the cost factor, now the movie theaters are requiring you to be 21 years old? That's the most retarded thing I've heard since they originally made marijuana illegal. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

10-25-2007, 06:06 PM	#9
Mooga Colorless FTW D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A Small Box Affiliations: SRCDS.com Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	R is 17. If they didn't let you in and you were 17 you should complain. You might get some free ticks? Or just tell them that because they are ass holes you are going to go pirate movies from now on. __________________ ~ Mooga ...w00t? SRCDS.com \| Twitter

10-25-2007, 06:57 PM	#11
uBeR Not ****** Yet D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It's 30 Days of Night, not 40. The movie was alright. I liked the gore, but the story... well it could have been developed. As for the tickets, well typically they allow 17+ year olds in on their own, but you need to be accompanied by an adult if you're under 17, which is the policy for most theaters. Some of the small ones around here don't really care--if you look old enough or if they know you, they'll let you in. Either way, it's simply a matter of the theater's policy. So if they say you can't go in if you're under 21, that's their decision, smart or not. __________________ OCCUPATION 101. *One would think a simple task would be, well, simple. Maybe not for simpletons.*

10-25-2007, 09:44 PM	#16
CatzEyes93 Black Mesa Voice Actor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	wait a sec... I thought this movie was rated r? If so, then a 17 year old should be able to get in without a parent. If the movie theater doesnt let you in, get your money back and go to the next theater to watch it. meanwhile... NONE of the ratings indicate anything to do with the age of 21. so if this movie theater is trying to base anything on the rating system, they are out of line and are idiots. Personally I would have pushed it until they admitted that they were rejecting my 17 year old entrance due to personal managment preference and NOT as a result of the suggested rating system. __________________ ___________________ Random Thoughts Only CatzEyes93.com

10-25-2007, 04:24 PM	#2
[FFM]-AC/DC Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm from PA as well, but have not heard of this, although I've never been to that brand of theater. I've always gone to the Carmike cinemas around here.

10-25-2007, 04:51 PM	#4
Gigiya Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i'm pretty sure that's not legal if they don't tell you that when you buy the tickets

10-25-2007, 05:05 PM	#5
Bakedbean Crap, where's a gun!? Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I would say contact Regal corporate and ask about that theater and it policies. Customer relations number 1-877-835-5734 or Main office number 1-865-922-1123 Oh BTW the moving ratings is not a law! http://www.filmratings.com/

10-25-2007, 05:27 PM	#6
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	according the the MPAA, in order to view a movie with the rating R, you must be 17 years of age or older to view the movie, and if you are under the age of 17 must be accompanied by a person(s) of the age of 21 or older. I went through this at my local cinema. I argued with the General Manager of the facility, about this, and after that, the next time i went in there a week later, there were signs posted all over the place about the law. it must have happened a lot because it was a major title being released to theaters that must of gained the attention of minors. http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp

10-25-2007, 05:33 PM	#8
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	well its not a LAW, but its within the constructs of the movies rating. using the Defined MPAA rating system officially dictates the rules of the film. since the cinema allows the usage of MPAA rated material in their cinema they must apply the rules. or the movie make can sue them for not allowing the general audience in to view their movie.

10-25-2007, 06:55 PM	#10
BinaryLife Posts: 1 bajillion D&A Member Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	They refunded the tickets that were purchased at the counter. But only because they asked for the manager to complain. They weren't like this before. I saw The Assassination of Jesse James a week before. That's rate R and I got in fine... granted I look like I'm 40. But still. They didn't even card me.

10-25-2007, 08:25 PM	#15
BinaryLife Posts: 1 bajillion D&A Member Wiki Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 5 Times	You guys shuld watch "This Film is Not Yet Rated." There aren't really guidlines or standards for the MPAA and their rating systems. They just watch something and make up a rating for it. They also operate with extreme secrecy so that no one can know who they are. ...That said, as far as my understanding of the intended rating system it was that the rating demsonstrates and age guidlines that movie theaters follow. If they find a movie, or a rating to be too much they simply choose not to follow it. It was never law, to my knoweldge, and most movie theaters would allow anyone in so long as they have a parent with them.

10-26-2007, 12:07 AM	#17
zSilver_Fox IRL Combat Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ethanol Land Class/Position: D Medic Gametype: Conca Jumping Affiliations: ^iv Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If they wish to reject someone under a certain age for a specific movie, they can. Its their right as a business owner to deny you business due to lack of sufficient age as defined by the manager. __________________ I have a nasopharyngeal and webcam... First infraction! Flaming!

10-26-2007, 12:30 AM	#18
YomMamasHouse Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Your Mom's House Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	If I'm 18 right now do those people think there is something in that movie that will negatively affect me more than a 21 year old? I don't understand ratings like that, they make it seem like late teens are still innocent and unable to see blood and weapons sex in movies because there is some risk of mentally harming us. Very silly.

10-26-2007, 01:03 AM	#19
Hawk Eye Who the fuck is this guy? D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: O Preferred Gametype: AvD Affiliations: [AE] Asseaters Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	You'd think they could assume that the 6'2 Tall, 200+ lbs bearded guy walking in is over 17. Nope. [needs to get a photo ID]

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